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Oct 17, 2018 23:35:46   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I know these stats are a little old but they can’t be that far off. Where do you get the BS you quote?

https://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000845


permafrost wrote:
Because I am a liberal and I own a gun. Probably not the answer you were seeking.

But here is the problem with that border wall. Mexico is currently the #5 source of i*****l i*******ts entering the USA. In fact no Hispanic country is in the top 4. Those would all be Asian countries. They get a work visa, enter the country via the airport then when that visa expires they just don’t leave. And guess what - unlike Mexico where we can deport citizens we cannot deport them back to most Asian countries. 60% of all i******s from 2015 - 2018 are Asians.

See how useless that border wall is?

Then take into account there are thousands of tunnels, two waterways to swim around and they can even get a plane ticket to visit Canada and cross the northern border.

By the time we build a multi-billion dollar wall and get it done it will barely stop 10% of i*****l i*********n. That is a monumental waste of money.

That’s why liberals are against the border wall. We know without any doubt that it will make no significant difference in our immigration problem.
Because I am a liberal and I own a gun. Probably n... (show quote)

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Oct 18, 2018 10:23:49   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
archie bunker wrote:
Easy answer here. Is it immoral to lock the doors on your house, or control who is allowed to access your bank account?


Archie, how long do I get to try and figure out an answer to your question? Set the timer now........

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Oct 18, 2018 10:37:43   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
padremike wrote:
Archie, how long do I get to try and figure out an answer to your question? Set the timer now........


Go!

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Oct 18, 2018 10:52:22   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
archie bunker wrote:
Go!


I had cause to smile at your comment. Too often folks go around in circles seeking a balanced answer to a major concern. The simplest answer, like your own, leaves nothing more to be said. Common sense. Bam!

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Oct 18, 2018 11:05:22   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
padremike wrote:
I had cause to smile at your comment. Too often folks go around in circles seeking a balanced answer to a major concern. The simplest answer, like your own, leaves nothing more to be said. Common sense. Bam!


Thanks Padre. I've never been accused of being an overthinker.

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Oct 18, 2018 11:13:53   #
bahmer
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nutcase Pelosi says building the Wall is immoral, expensive, and ineffective. O.K.. I’ll give her expensive. What isn’t the govt. builds? Ineffective ? Not necessarily. Arguments on both sides of that debate. But immoral? Not at all. It’s immoral to force tax payers to pay to help people break our laws.


Amen and Amen

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Oct 18, 2018 12:21:02   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
JFlorio wrote:
I know these stats are a little old but they can’t be that far off. Where do you get the BS you quote?

https://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000845


Possibly migrationpolicy.org
Not sure. Looking there found this. Remember I'm using phone.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/immigrant-and-emigrant-populations-country-origin-and-destination

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Oct 18, 2018 22:51:36   #
plainlogic
 
permafrost wrote:
You people who can not understand the events in front of your eyes are the real danger to America


#DonTheCon strikes again: About a year ago, Trump pledged to eliminate the national debt "over a period of eight years." But for the first time in history, the national debt, fueled by the budget-busting #GOPTaxS**m giveaway to the rich, surpassed $21 trillion this week.


After blowing an $800 billion hole in the deficit thanks to Drumpf's tax cuts for the rich, Republicans now want to pay for it by cutting our Social Security and healthcare.

Remember when Democrats warned that the tax cuts would cause our national debt to spiral out of control..and then McConnell said that they would pay for themselves. Well, that was a GOP lie
You people who can not understand the events in fr... (show quote)



DemonRATS put us there in the first place, now you come along with the GOP crap. U R liberal = f**e, liar, manipulate where applicable. Say goodnight Gracie.

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Oct 19, 2018 07:00:48   #
plainlogic
 
permafrost wrote:
I first heard that "we are rich" stuff in bible school when I was in Jr high.. I failed to see the logic even then..

am I rich, by American standards? because the rest of the world has different standards and I do not life there..

On the other hand, I have a lady down the road from the Philippines, and sold some of my equipment to a man from Africa.. Lagos... what ever nation that is in..

they both thought we were rich.. the lady still, after about 17 years now, is amazed when she goes to the grocery market and see all the food.. thinks she is in heaven..

On the 3rd hand, do I feel rich?? tell the t***h, at times I do.. I have some great people in my world..both family and friends.. Even on OPP....maybe...

I gotta brag... my son is gloating today.. he was interviewed on twin city TV last night per one of his cases and got to pontificate as he has not done sense he dropped his own practice.

So archie... with all my convoluted standards... I would say you are rich also..

I could of done a comparison of living standards world over, but it seems so over done.. Have a nice day Archie...
I first heard that "we are rich" stuff i... (show quote)



Rich! It seems everyone looks at rich as being wealthy with money$$$, rich can take many forms in life. Rich could be spiritual, could be health, rich with family. It would be fair, to clarify, what part of rich is being spoken about. Just following up.

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Oct 19, 2018 09:09:54   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
plainlogic wrote:
DemonRATS put us there in the first place, now you come along with the GOP crap. U R liberal = f**e, liar, manipulate where applicable. Say goodnight Gracie.


U walked into this one,
Goodnight Gracie.
If ya didn't think or know there Was some t***h in perms post
You wouldn't be posting insults or name calling;
Defensive are we?

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Oct 19, 2018 09:22:38   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
plainlogic wrote:
DemonRATS put us there in the first place, now you come along with the GOP crap. U R liberal = f**e, liar, manipulate where applicable. Say goodnight Gracie.




You alarm me. Because I have come to the conclusion that you truly beleive that BS.. you and yours are a very dangerous group to our nation..



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Oct 19, 2018 09:49:47   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Those numbers are factual but don’t tell the entire story. You need the ratio of debt to GDP. Where we are really hurting is the amount we are paying in interest.

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Oct 19, 2018 09:51:14   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nutcase Pelosi says building the Wall is immoral, expensive, and ineffective. O.K.. I’ll give her expensive. What isn’t the govt. builds? Ineffective ? Not necessarily. Arguments on both sides of that debate. But immoral? Not at all. It’s immoral to force tax payers to pay to help people break our laws.


Its immoral to have the likes of she still in office!!

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Oct 19, 2018 18:51:39   #
Comment Loc: California
 
permafrost wrote:
You people who can not understand the events in front of your eyes are the real danger to America


#DonTheCon strikes again: About a year ago, Trump pledged to eliminate the national debt "over a period of eight years." But for the first time in history, the national debt, fueled by the budget-busting #GOPTaxS**m giveaway to the rich, surpassed $21 trillion this week.


After blowing an $800 billion hole in the deficit thanks to Drumpf's tax cuts for the rich, Republicans now want to pay for it by cutting our Social Security and healthcare.

Remember when Democrats warned that the tax cuts would cause our national debt to spiral out of control..and then McConnell said that they would pay for themselves. Well, that was a GOP lie
You people who can not understand the events in fr... (show quote)


Misconceptions generated by Socialist Democrat lies. Pension funds of all working people in the US are invested in Corporations.Millions of these working class stiffs are not RICH CORPORATIOS. Any reference what-so-ever that corporations are only owned by the rich is just outright false.

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Oct 19, 2018 18:57:06   #
Comment Loc: California
 
permafrost wrote:
You alarm me. Because I have come to the conclusion that you truly beleive that BS.. you and yours are a very dangerous group to our nation..


Again, Obama added 10 tril to the ND in 8 years. On average that's more that 1.1 tril a year. Your numbers don't balance with mine. I have googled the ND and got my numbers. Just saying. I noticed that U truncated your chart after 2013. Why?

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