Seth

I, and most other real Americans, don't need to have a bunch of l*****ts coming along and telling me how I have to spend MY hard earned money.

I, and most other real Americans, don't need to have a bunch of l*****ts coming along and telling me they know better about what's best for me than I do.

As far as all these statistics and other "data" a lot of l*****ts keep feeding me about how X% of the American people want this and Y% want that, well, it's funny how once one gets away from majority Democrat v****g cities like NY and LA and talk to normal, regular, everyday, hard working Americans, it's difficult to find any members of those X and Y%s.

L*****ts seem to consult "polls" taken selectively in majority Democrat v****g districts, or use pre- stocked lists of selected pollees, because in real life, most good Americans want as little government influence in their lives and in their wallets as possible.

If we'd wanted what you people are dishing up, we would still be a British colony.

Seth

A-f***ing- MEN!!!!

buffalo Loc: Texas

Medicare taxes may have to be raised but not as much as the sheople and businesses are paying the private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations now. Premium payments to the private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations will be eliminated saving 95% of taxpayers and most businesses money, even with the increased taxes.

Already a sizable portion of the population, working or not, is covered with Medicaid and CHIPS to the tune of $565.5 BILLION (2016). To be precise 133 MILLION elderly, disabled, poor and children are already covered with Medicare, Medicaid and/or CHIPS. Who pays for their health CARE? The taxpayers, of course. Remember even obammy said in his book that 20% of the population use 80% of health CARE dollars.

Meanwhile the private for profit health INSURANCE corporations sucks out $600 BILLION that pays for no ones' health CARE!

There is a better way and Medicare for All is the answer. 70% of Americans favor a medicare for All system. Do I care if the wealthy have to pay a few more taxes? Hell NO!

Not having health CARE be considered a right is what is IMMORAL!

Seth

Right or not, then let l*****ts such as yourself volunteer to pay for all of it and keep your hands out of the pockets of those of us who want no part of your unconstitutional, big government socialist schemes.

Does that even REGISTER on your brain, or is it your opinion that wh**ever every American works hard for automatically belongs not to us, but to some sort of "collective" in which we have no say?

If you want to live in a country like that, why don't you emigrate to one, instead of pushing that drivel here?

You people make this big thing about "victimhood," so why are you trying to make victims out of freedom loving Americans by forcing this crap on us?

CounterRevolutionary

First, I question your statistics. 70% of US citizens DO NOT support Medicare For All. We are not state chattel.

Secondly, do not delude yourself that the health insurance industry is "private." That ended under FDR. The corporate status as "non-profit" insurance became "for-profit" insurance in 1945. Next, Congress passed the the MCCarran Fergusson Act placing health insurance under the Interstate-Commerce Clause allowing both state and federal regulation. Hence, ever since, the government - Congress and State Insurance Commissioners, have been engaged in price fixing policies artifially high and artificially wide. This is an absurd racket. There is nothing "private" about the health insurance industry.

Only a socialist power-freak would push Medicare For All to gain control over who lives and who dies, bankrupting the nation both morally and financially.

We seniors have spent 50 years laboring for the good of the nation and forced to pay 15% of our hard earned money to FICA. Once we retire, Medicare demands another $150 bucks withdrawn out of our SS checks because Medicare is bankrupt. SS is only $200 trillion in debt of unfunded liabilites, Medicare is $600 trillion in debt of unfunded liabilities. Congress insist we seniors are too senile to manage our own afairs! Even on a modest lifestyle, my checkbook is balanced every week at the kitchen table. If we hire a consultant to help navigate the 74,000 page IRS tax code, we are reported by the IRS to HHS as "financially feebleminded" and hence, INSANE.

By these standards, the entire United States Congress and 100,000 bureaucrats at HHS should be locked up in an insane asylum.

I want my money back!

buffalo Loc: Texas

I really do not care if you don't believe "MY" statistics. Hers's some more for you.

http://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/most-americans-now-support-medicare-for-all-and-free-college-tuition.html

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/403248-poll-seventy-percent-of-americans-support-medicare-for-all

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/08/new-poll-majority-of-gop-v**ers-support-medicare-for-all.html

http://www.care2.com/causes/70-of-americans-want-medicare-for-all-now-if-the-politicians-would-just-listen.html

70% of Americans DO favor Medicare for All.

The one thing private about about health INSURANCE is the profits. Like the private prison system, privatize the profits while the taxpayer picks up the expenses.

That's why ALL incomes need to be taxed for Social Security. Even the unearned incomes of the wealthy.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Are you also for free college tuition?

Seth

When business owners I know, and I mean non microchip involved goods and services, suddenly expand their businesses and give raises and increase employee benefits after several relatively stagnant years and tell me it's exclusively because of the tax cuts, I'll take their word over that of the graphs and charts nerds and the "experts," thank you.

On that other issue, this country wasn't founded on an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent government with its fingers in the pockets of its citizens. What you believe in is not even remotely compatible with the 142 year old charter between the people and the government, called the U.S. Constitution.

There are these 50 items called states that have more power than the federal government in most things, and social issues, healthcare and everything else not enumerated as falling under the federal government's jurisdiction in Article 1 belongs to the states, which in turn belong to the people who dwell within them.

This is known as the Tenth Amendment, and it is to be found in the Bill of Rights.

This "information source" you so swear by that tells you 70% of Americans would be willing to accept this usurpation by government of their hard earned money is highly flawed, either intentionally or not. It may be that the authors of these studies conduct their surveys in large, primarily "progressive" cities while they don't exert themselves by extending their inquiries into heartland counties and towns, wherein one finds most of our more practical and down to earth Americans.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Excellent explanation. It will be wasted on Buffalo. He's a true believer in big govt. and if you have more than he thinks you need then someone else is entitled to it. Not to mention that he thinks govt has the right to force one human to do labor for another. S***e mentality. [quote=Seth]When business owners I know, and I mean non microchip involved goods and services, suddenly expand their businesses and give raises and increase employee benefits after several relatively stagnant years and tell me it's exclusively because of the tax cuts, I'll take their word over that of the graphs and charts nerds and the "experts," thank you.

On that other issue, this country wasn't founded on an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent government with its fingers in the pockets of its citizens. What you believe in is not even remotely compatible with the 142 year old charter between the people and the government, called the U.S. Constitution.

There are these 50 items called states that have more power than the federal government in most things, and social issues, healthcare and everything else not enumerated as falling under the federal government's jurisdiction in Article 1 belongs to the states, which in turn belong to the people who dwell within them.

Seth

Worse yet, thinkers of Buffalo's political persuation possess none of the empathy necessary to understand why average Americans consider this socialist assault on our way of life to be the equivalent of a hostile invasion on our sovereign soil.

Even the concepts they espouse did not originate here. They originated far away and have since left nothing in their wake but shattered countries, starvation and misery under the jurisdiction of leadership composed of elitist kleptocrats.

The common people make due on wh**ever their leaders decide is "good for them," often entailing distressing levels of privation, while the same leaders and their friends and "most valuable" citizens do very well for themselves.

Seth

Hmmm....

JFlorio, I was actually replying to your post, but the quote read, "Seth wrote..."

The analog man in a digital world strikes again.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Two examples~~ VA and Medicare as it is right now...