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Oct 17, 2018 08:15:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Nutcase Pelosi says building the Wall is immoral, expensive, and ineffective. O.K.. I’ll give her expensive. What isn’t the govt. builds? Ineffective ? Not necessarily. Arguments on both sides of that debate. But immoral? Not at all. It’s immoral to force tax payers to pay to help people break our laws.

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Oct 17, 2018 08:36:44   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nutcase Pelosi says building the Wall is immoral, expensive, and ineffective. O.K.. I’ll give her expensive. What isn’t the govt. builds? Ineffective ? Not necessarily. Arguments on both sides of that debate. But immoral? Not at all. It’s immoral to force tax payers to pay to help people break our laws.


right on target

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Oct 17, 2018 08:40:15   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I wish these Democrats would just once be asked a follow up question.
no propaganda please wrote:
right on target

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Oct 17, 2018 08:48:33   #
Seth
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nutcase Pelosi says building the Wall is immoral, expensive, and ineffective. O.K.. I’ll give her expensive. What isn’t the govt. builds? Ineffective ? Not necessarily. Arguments on both sides of that debate. But immoral? Not at all. It’s immoral to force tax payers to pay to help people break our laws.


Between catching, feeding, rendering medical attention, incarcerating and processing i******s at the border, I've seen estimates as high as $100 billion a year of the U.S taxpayers' money.

This apparently doesn't bother the Democrats who bend over backwards to maintain this status quo, but then why should it? It is, after all, the taxpayers' money, which we all know exists solely for the Democrats' spending pleasure.

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Oct 17, 2018 08:51:21   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Exactly!!
Seth wrote:
Between catching, feeding, rendering medical attention, incarcerating and processing i******s at the border, I've seen estimates as high as $100 billion a year of the U.S taxpayers' money.

This apparently doesn't bother the Democrats who bend over backwards to maintain this status quo, but then why should it? It is, after all, the taxpayers' money, which we all know exists solely for the Democrats' spending pleasure.

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Oct 17, 2018 09:27:17   #
Comment Loc: California
 
Seth wrote:
Between catching, feeding, rendering medical attention, incarcerating and processing i******s at the border, I've seen estimates as high as $100 billion a year of the U.S taxpayers' money.

This apparently doesn't bother the Democrats who bend over backwards to maintain this status quo, but then why should it? It is, after all, the taxpayers' money, which we all know exists solely for the Democrats' spending pleasure.


There will never be a balanced budget under the Democratic influence. They have to v**e for more spending on Socialism in order to maintain their # of lowbows v****g for Democrats The country can shut down it's military and all mean of self defense, but the spending on low class no class non-productives will remain their highest priority. Correction: Their high paying positions which requires no work is their highest priority.

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Oct 17, 2018 10:13:17   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nutcase Pelosi says building the Wall is immoral, expensive, and ineffective. O.K.. I’ll give her expensive. What isn’t the govt. builds? Ineffective ? Not necessarily. Arguments on both sides of that debate. But immoral? Not at all. It’s immoral to force tax payers to pay to help people break our laws.


Certainly ineffective - definitely expensive ! What is really immoral is making tax payers pay for getting it built , question is what is doing so going to take away from citizens? ( there's always a catch)
How are we helping others to break our laws?
Note: I'm not a fan or illegal or i******s. In my opinion( emphasis on my) the latter does not belong.the former is alive and well on criminal hill often referred to as Washington D.C. where apparently we the people without a voice or even with are at the wrong end of the spectrum or short end of the stick, so to speak.

The nutcase thing is right on, she's right up there with Feinstein"s vets shouldn't own guns remark? I***tic.

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Oct 17, 2018 10:27:45   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Not ineffective if done right. See walls around the world. They can work. To be a sovereign nation we need borders. We help others break our laws by treating i******s as they’ve done nothing wrong.
tactful wrote:
Certainly ineffective - definitely expensive ! What is really immoral is making tax payers pay for getting it built , question is what is doing so going to take away from citizens? ( there's always a catch)
How are we helping others to break our laws?
Note: I'm not a fan or illegal or i******s. In my opinion( emphasis on my) the latter does not belong.the former is alive and well on criminal hill often referred to as Washington D.C. where apparently we the people without a voice or even with are at the wrong end of the spectrum or short end of the stick, so to speak.

The nutcase thing is right on, she's right up there with Feinstein"s vets shouldn't own guns remark? I***tic.
Certainly ineffective - definitely expensive ! W... (show quote)

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Oct 17, 2018 10:31:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Comment wrote:
There will never be a balanced budget under the Democratic influence. They have to v**e for more spending on Socialism in order to maintain their # of lowbows v****g for Democrats The country can shut down it's military and all mean of self defense, but the spending on low class no class non-productives will remain their highest priority. Correction: Their high paying positions which requires no work is their highest priority.




You people who can not understand the events in front of your eyes are the real danger to America


#DonTheCon strikes again: About a year ago, Trump pledged to eliminate the national debt "over a period of eight years." But for the first time in history, the national debt, fueled by the budget-busting #GOPTaxS**m giveaway to the rich, surpassed $21 trillion this week.


After blowing an $800 billion hole in the deficit thanks to Drumpf's tax cuts for the rich, Republicans now want to pay for it by cutting our Social Security and healthcare.

Remember when Democrats warned that the tax cuts would cause our national debt to spiral out of control..and then McConnell said that they would pay for themselves. Well, that was a GOP lie

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Oct 17, 2018 11:35:55   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Just so you know. The debts not fueled by the GOP tax plan. Just stupid. You can make an argument for or against tax cuts but they are not driving the deficit. Interest and overspending are culprits.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/income-tax-revenues-trump-tax-cuts-economic-growth/

permafrost wrote:
You people who can not understand the events in front of your eyes are the real danger to America


#DonTheCon strikes again: About a year ago, Trump pledged to eliminate the national debt "over a period of eight years." But for the first time in history, the national debt, fueled by the budget-busting #GOPTaxS**m giveaway to the rich, surpassed $21 trillion this week.


After blowing an $800 billion hole in the deficit thanks to Drumpf's tax cuts for the rich, Republicans now want to pay for it by cutting our Social Security and healthcare.

Remember when Democrats warned that the tax cuts would cause our national debt to spiral out of control..and then McConnell said that they would pay for themselves. Well, that was a GOP lie
You people who can not understand the events in fr... (show quote)

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Oct 17, 2018 11:47:37   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
JFlorio wrote:
Not ineffective if done right. See walls around the world. They can work. To be a sovereign nation we need borders. We help others break our laws by treating i******s as they’ve done nothing wrong.


True story " if done right" - the ones around the world were thought out well before getting or being built.that said they do work,of course we need borders! that's a no brainier however the United States is and has been behind the rest of the world in nearly everything it is borderline silly,in large part even unattainable aside from us being broke we still find funds to give others but refuse to help or address our own problems here? along with being the only so called civilized nation that does not take care of their own first.while I do believe in the golden rule I don't agree anyone including and especially i******s being treated like nothing's wrong or happened.sovereignty should not be optional,it should be the law of this land that when broken a price paid accordingly?much easier said than done unfortunately,also immoral. ☹️

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Oct 17, 2018 12:29:48   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nutcase Pelosi says building the Wall is immoral, expensive, and ineffective. O.K.. I’ll give her expensive. What isn’t the govt. builds? Ineffective ? Not necessarily. Arguments on both sides of that debate. But immoral? Not at all. It’s immoral to force tax payers to pay to help people break our laws.


Easy answer here. Is it immoral to lock the doors on your house, or control who is allowed to access your bank account?

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Oct 17, 2018 13:30:24   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
archie bunker wrote:
Easy answer here. Is it immoral to lock the doors on your house, or control who is allowed to access your bank account?


Maybe too easy arch, the basics of common sense dictates both those things should be no brainer concepts which could be misconstrued as being off topic when isn't. Pointing out yet another point of view of the morality of our distain society without all the hoopla.

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Oct 17, 2018 13:45:15   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JFlorio wrote:
Just so you know. The debts not fueled by the GOP tax plan. Just stupid. You can make an argument for or against tax cuts but they are not driving the deficit. Interest and overspending are culprits.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/income-tax-revenues-trump-tax-cuts-economic-growth/



Over spending??? Is that the mirror image of not paying your debts???



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Oct 17, 2018 13:50:55   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Over spending??? Is that the mirror image of not paying your debts???


A lot of people would consider us rich, Permi. Does this apply to you, and I?

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