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Jul 19, 2018 16:11:35   #
woodguru
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Tom,

When did William Felix Browder become an American diplomat? As far as I know, he was born American but renounced his citizenship and was instrumental in he passage of the Magnitsky Act which wiped out many of Russia's small and medium-sized businesses. There is a move by the UN to pass this act in all UN states. Basically it allows the bank account and properties of Russians to be seized if there is evidence that they or their company was/is involved in human rights violations.

President Putin has not asked for anyone to extradited to Russia for interrogation. And he did not say he would force the "dirty 12" Mueller has indicted to be extradited to the US. But a quid pro qo, allowing questioning of the "dirty 12" in Russia in exchange for questioning Browder in his property in the US ..... or in his other property in the UK which would require the UK to agree. Browder has many properties around the world, it could take years for him to return to his property in the US. I can understand Russia's need to find out how $1.5 billion (in US currency) disappeared into Browder's accounts and how he got his hands on that money.

If we truly want to get to the bottom of our e******n i**********e and prosecute those responsible, we are going to need other countries to cooperate. This is not something that can be done in a vacuum. BTW, we have agreements with most other nations which allow this type of cooperation. If say the UK has a person of interest in the US, they can send their envoy to the US to question that individual. Same with Spain, Germany, Italy, Japan........... it seems the only nation we do not have such an agreement with is Russia, although we did sign an agreement in 1999 to allow such cooperation. We have not allowed such questioning and in return, Russia has not allowed it.
Tom, br br When did William Felix Browder become ... (show quote)


We do not need Russia's cooperation. Let Putin have information access to the people he wants questioned and the tiniest little tells will reveal to him who is deep cover spies, our spies and Putin will k**l them, it's how he rolls.

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Jul 19, 2018 16:36:05   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
In what universe does the President of a nation question a detainee? Perhaps they do on the planet you come from, but here on earth Presidents do not get into field work.

woodguru wrote:
We do not need Russia's cooperation. Let Putin have information access to the people he wants questioned and the tiniest little tells will reveal to him who is deep cover spies, our spies and Putin will k**l them, it's how he rolls.

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Jul 19, 2018 18:12:06   #
debeda
 
Pennylynn wrote:
In what universe does the President of a nation question a detainee? Perhaps they do on the planet you come from, but here on earth Presidents do not get into field work.


Lolololololololhahahahahaha true!

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Jul 20, 2018 08:01:54   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Go ahead and support Trump all you want. It does not mean I have to believe every thing he does is good for our country. I don't want our diplomats sent to Russia for questioning and I believe our intelligence service before I would believe Putin. That is my opinion I can't speak for you because you have an opinion also.



You people send your cowardly masked black shirt f*****t to businesses, people's homes and harrass anyone on the street who do not follow your oppressive beliefs. I consider people like you a direct threat to humanity. There will be blood in the streets soon enough as the cold war between right and left goes hot. Understand this, Americans (Normals) are not going to sit by and allow the Socialist Democrat Party (A******ls) to unseat a legally elected President. We had to stomach our way through 8 bulls**t years of Obama. You either deal with this or take your chances with s******n and your public execution.

I did not even v**e for Trump but I did not v**e for your corrupt treasonous pig either. I wrote in!
I like the decisions Trump is making politically and economically though. SCOTUS will be under control of Constitutionalist in lieu if socialist t*****rs that sit there currently. Ginsburg is a piece of human trash!

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Jul 20, 2018 08:23:45   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
JW wrote:
… but that doesn't mean anyone else has to take it seriously (and that includes mine but here it is anyway).

I have never seen such an aggregation of intellectual lepers in my life as is today to be found on the Left of the political spectrum. The vast majority of you on that side of the aisle have no idea what you are posting about here or representing in Washington, D.C. You have no background in history or the political policies you support or oppose. You are hypocrites of the first order; screaming denunciations of President Trump while utterly ignorant of the very same, or worse, having occurred on your own side.

You call Trump a t*****r for meeting with Putin and you applaud Hillary for her Russian reset.

You accuse Trump of collusion with Russia and you ignore the fact that the infamous "Trump dossier", paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC, was compiled by a foreigner using Russian sources.

You claim Trump's performance in Helsinki was the greatest embarrassment the US has ever been put to while ignoring the Obama apology tour with its several photos of then President of the United states, Barack Obama, executing the serf's obeisance before the Saudi Royalty and the Emperor of Japan.

Your press touts the many ways Trump might offend the Queen of England but said nothing about the Obama state gift to the queen of a bunch of music CDs and a few of his recorded speeches.

Frankly what I see happening in this once great and noble country makes me sick to the core of my spirit. I see no way to reconcile with the Left and worse, I no longer see any point in it.
… but that doesn't mean anyone else has to take it... (show quote)


Well said

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Jul 20, 2018 08:29:46   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
woodguru wrote:
We do not need Russia's cooperation. Let Putin have information access to the people he wants questioned and the tiniest little tells will reveal to him who is deep cover spies, our spies and Putin will k**l them, it's how he rolls.


There's an old saying keep your friends close and your enemys closer. There is no reason not to have a talking relationship with other countrys even if we disagree you really dont want to insite a war. No we dont see eye to eye and they know we dont like every thing they do but if u keep a CIVIL relationship with them your in a better position to know if some thing is going wrong and can possibly correct it before a war starts . Your also in a better position to encourage changes.

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Jul 20, 2018 11:58:51   #
woodguru
 
Pennylynn wrote:
In what universe does the President of a nation question a detainee? Perhaps they do on the planet you come from, but here on earth Presidents do not get into field work.


In a world where Russia's dictator was and still is in direct charge of their military intelligence.

I didn't mean give Putin who he wants to talk to, I was saying that if you give Putin access to intelligence that relates to leaks that came from highly placed Russian operatives, he will figure out where those leaks came from, who they are, when he finds where his leaks are coming from those leaks will disappear.

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Jul 20, 2018 13:15:13   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Fine ignore me.

Pennylynn I don't see how anyone could ignore a fine, sweet, lovable you.
😚😎

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Jul 20, 2018 13:24:26   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
My sweet friend.... I am on so many ignore list that there are times I am shocked to be able to post on any "progressive's" threads. But, at least I can still talk to you.... with great pleasure I might add!

old marine wrote:
Pennylynn I don't see how anyone could ignore a fine, sweet, lovable you.
😚😎

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Jul 20, 2018 13:44:41   #
debeda
 
vettelover wrote:
You people send your cowardly masked black shirt f*****t to businesses, people's homes and harrass anyone on the street who do not follow your oppressive beliefs. I consider people like you a direct threat to humanity. There will be blood in the streets soon enough as the cold war between right and left goes hot. Understand this, Americans (Normals) are not going to sit by and allow the Socialist Democrat Party (A******ls) to unseat a legally elected President. We had to stomach our way through 8 bulls**t years of Obama. You either deal with this or take your chances with s******n and your public execution.

I did not even v**e for Trump but I did not v**e for your corrupt treasonous pig either. I wrote in!
I like the decisions Trump is making politically and economically though. SCOTUS will be under control of Constitutionalist in lieu if socialist t*****rs that sit there currently. Ginsburg is a piece of human trash!
You people send your cowardly masked black shirt f... (show quote)



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Jul 20, 2018 13:53:21   #
Richard Rowland
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Tom,

When did William Felix Browder become an American diplomat? As far as I know, he was born American but renounced his citizenship and was instrumental in he passage of the Magnitsky Act which wiped out many of Russia's small and medium-sized businesses. There is a move by the UN to pass this act in all UN states. Basically it allows the bank account and properties of Russians to be seized if there is evidence that they or their company was/is involved in human rights violations.

President Putin has not asked for anyone to extradited to Russia for interrogation. And he did not say he would force the "dirty 12" Mueller has indicted to be extradited to the US. But a quid pro qo, allowing questioning of the "dirty 12" in Russia in exchange for questioning Browder in his property in the US ..... or in his other property in the UK which would require the UK to agree. Browder has many properties around the world, it could take years for him to return to his property in the US. I can understand Russia's need to find out how $1.5 billion (in US currency) disappeared into Browder's accounts and how he got his hands on that money.

If we truly want to get to the bottom of our e******n i**********e and prosecute those responsible, we are going to need other countries to cooperate. This is not something that can be done in a vacuum. BTW, we have agreements with most other nations which allow this type of cooperation. If say the UK has a person of interest in the US, they can send their envoy to the US to question that individual. Same with Spain, Germany, Italy, Japan........... it seems the only nation we do not have such an agreement with is Russia, although we did sign an agreement in 1999 to allow such cooperation. We have not allowed such questioning and in return, Russia has not allowed it.
Tom, br br When did William Felix Browder become ... (show quote)


http://www.dickmorris.com/trump-say-no-to-putins-desperate-corrupt-request-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports

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Jul 20, 2018 13:54:30   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
Pennylynn wrote:
My sweet friend.... I am on so many ignore list that there are times I am shocked to be able to post on any "progressive's" threads. But, at least I can still talk to you.... with great pleasure I might add!


Pennylynn, you are not on my suspicion list. I will assure you of that, and I will not assure any others at this time.

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Jul 20, 2018 14:00:03   #
Richard Rowland
 
proud republican wrote:
Thats great ...for you Tom...You are not the one who is being attack for your opinion....But for us on the right,having our own opinions means being yelled at, beaten up, attacked,thrown out of restaurants and worse ...being k**led...Our property being destroyed......So there you go,Tom...You can speak your opinion, unfortunately for us ..we cant!!!..Doesnt mean though im going to stop supporting our President!!!



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Jul 20, 2018 14:21:12   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Go ahead and support Trump all you want. It does not mean I have to believe every thing he does is good for our country. I don't want our diplomats sent to Russia for questioning and I believe our intelligence service before I would believe Putin. That is my opinion I can't speak for you because you have an opinion also.


I there a chance that our DOJ is blowing into the wind in hopes the Russians will do what you make fun of about Americans. Rosenstein has already called for Russians to come back here twice and even he knows they won't show up. It appears to me that he may lean a bit too far left for me and yet he is digging at Trump for wh**ever reason. Another really important part of my opinion is that he should have been impeached long ago.

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Jul 20, 2018 14:41:36   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Thank you, I hope I never deserve your contempt. I find you a most reasonable individual....even when I do not agree with what you write, you always make reasonable and plausible assertions.

Manning345 wrote:
Pennylynn, you are not on my suspicion list. I will assure you of that, and I will not assure any others at this time.

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