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Aug 25, 2013 21:39:39   #
Lou wrote:
I must say Carolyn , you do have your following of idiots . Gee no surprise there huh ?


I have a solution: Carolyn, you say your claims are a matter of public record. Cite these records. Lou, if she does this, and the records are, indeed, there, refute them. Both of you make unsubstantiated claims. Stop accusing and start proving. Let's see some proof.
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Aug 25, 2013 21:29:01   #
Lou wrote:
The reality is that presidential trips are expensive. It would be fair to be opposed to all of them, but the hypocrisy of only being outraged when certain presidents travel is unacceptable. George W. Bush appears to have had himself quite a little African spending spree, but apparently cost only matters when Barack Obama is the president who is doing the traveling.


Once more, I am not the one defending Bush. My issue is with the appalling amount of taxpayer money Michelle and company spends on personal vacations, which is allowed to happen by Obama. I realize that Presidential vacations are working ones. I also realize that allowing your family to spend millions of taxpayer dollars on personal "getaways" that have zero to do with business, at a time when the 51 percent of Americans who still pay taxes are struggling to make ends meet is both arrogant and despicable.
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Aug 25, 2013 21:16:44   #
Poco624 wrote:
Conservatives bashful about spending someone's else's money? Nope, I don't think so -- the House Republicans have spent $60 million of taxpayers money repealing Obamacare 40 times knowing that if it passed Congress the President would never sign for the demise of his own health care law. Bashful? Not in the least. They are now spending $53 million more taxpayers money doing their townhall speeches, again to repeal Obamacare.

Still with me? From the time the Republicans took over the House in 2011 they have spent $248.6 million more taxpayers money writing "anti-women" bills knowing the President would veto them. To verify that go to http://www.emilyslist.org/ and click on "War on Women".

This 113th Congress is the least productive Congress in our history and it costs taxpayers $54 million each week to run the House. Nope, no bashfulness on the Conservative side.

Whatever, this will political gold for Dems in the coming 2014 and 2016 elections.
Conservatives bashful about spending someone's els... (show quote)


What I said was they at least ACTED like they felt guilty about it.
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Aug 25, 2013 16:22:18   #
tato wrote:
How much did Laura spend on her safari in Africa, her two daughters in tow? Obama didn't go to Martha's Vineyard on AF-1. Went by helicopter.

Bush "was mostly working". Yeah, right.

Yes, Bush went to his ranch in Texas, or the family "compound" in Maine. Some people don't own ranches or compounds.

The comparison was for "up to this point" in their terms.

Obama's accomodations are not paid for by the taxpayers, nor are meals.

The recent Africa trip was not a vacation. The cost was estimated to be $60-100 million, and of course you used the higher figure. Since Clinton went, fuel costs have skyrocketed, and other costs have gone up substantially.

Presidential trips are expensive, no matter who is in office. You folks look for anything to critisize Obama. Why not mention the fact his new dog cost $1400-2000, and is black. Yes, some righties actually complained about the fact the First Family has no white dogs.
How much did Laura spend on her safari in Africa, ... (show quote)


Actually, I was mostly criticizing Michelle and brood's gladhanding of taxpayer money on personal vacations. Oh yes, Obama's dog? His dog handler makes more money than the Secret Service Detail that protects him. Maybe he should handle security.
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Aug 25, 2013 16:01:29   #
working class stiff wrote:
Liberals and conservatives seem to agree on one thing: the federal gov't is corrupt. Is it all the money? Is there a distinction between liberal or conservative free speech?


Conservatives are somewhat more bashful about spending someone else's money. (They still do, but at least they act like they feel guilty).
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Aug 25, 2013 15:52:14   #
rumitoid wrote:
Lol, did I get you in trouble?


Not with anyone who counts.
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Aug 25, 2013 15:41:37   #
tato wrote:
Ha ha, the Obama's recent vacation in Maine cost less than ONE trip to Crawford. And Bush took more than twice as many vacation days as BHO as of this date, even in the latter part of his 2nd term when the economy was in freefall he went to Crawford at taxpayer expense; cost of transportation for him, the Secret Service, his retinue; cost of housing and feeding the agents. When Obama went to Maine, his housing and meals were provided by his own funds. He took a little over a week, Congress is on a 5 week vacation. He is back at work while Boehner is golfing.
Ha ha, the Obama's recent vacation in Maine cost ... (show quote)


You neglect a number of things in your somewhat skewed version of things. First, most of this cost is operating Air Force One. How much did Obama's numerous trips to Hawaii cost? close to 20 million. When Bush went on "vacation," he was mostly working, and stayed at places he already owned. Mind telling me how much money Laura Bush spent on sunbathing in Spain, skiing in Aspen, and shopping in Martha's Vineyard? Michelle Obama spent at least 4 million dollars of taxpayer money on vacations that have nothing to do with business. Not to mention separate vacations for the kids, bringing the whole cost of Michelle and the kids to at least five million dollars. That's five million more, over and above the Hawaiian vacations. Bush went to property that he owned. I haven't noticed Tovarisch Obama taking any vacations in Chicago, where he owns property. Bear in mind, the 100 million dollar Africa trip. Clinton did it for 42 million. You will also note that Bush was in office for 8 years, Obama has pretty much equaled Bush's expenditures in five and one half years.
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Aug 25, 2013 15:14:35   #
tato wrote:
Again, if you are white, you are MUCH MORE LIKELY to be killed by another white. That's what I am saying and the statistics prove it.


Tell me Tato, would you rather walk through a white neighborhood at midnight, or a black one? That's what I thought.
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Aug 25, 2013 15:07:59   #
MPLSMAN wrote:
Actually, that was due to the Republican's sequester to save money. Let's be truthful.


I notice that the sequester did not affect several million dollars worth of vacations for Michelle and the kids.
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Aug 25, 2013 12:44:25   #
Poco624 wrote:
Nope, no free stuff here, I pay for my needs with my hard earned cash. Seriously, are you people living in solitary confinement? Maybe drinking too much Tea Party tea, suffering from schizophrenia with hallucinations so severe that you cannot distinguish between reality and what your mind has perceived.

80% of people on food stamps are the working poor which include 1.5 million of Walmart employees. Yep, we the taxpayers are paying for the Billion Dollar Welfare Queens employees meals and health care. The House Republicans could really care less about this Welfare Queen because she is making a profit off of the taxpayers. You see, they do not want to tax the job makers, but this job maker is teaching dependency.

It is okay for a $100 billion corporation to make it rich off of food stamp, but not the poor who really need them. This is how Walmart gets richer: They pay their employes poverty wages, their employees sign up for SNAP and the only place they can use the food stamps is at Walmart. Voila, 4.5% annual profit for the $100 billion corporation.

Now, Walmart CEO's are the Welfare Queens driving around in their Lamborghini's, Bugatti Veyron's and Mercedes-Benz's.
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What do you mean, the only place they can use their Food Stamps is at WalMart? Did WalMart start doing their own EBT?
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Aug 25, 2013 12:40:14   #
tato wrote:
Statistics can be interpreted in different ways. My only point was that whites should fear other whites more than they should fear blacks. The odds are much better that , if you are white and are murdered, it is much more probable that the murderer is white.


Actually, if I am white and murdered, in all probability, I won't care.
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Aug 25, 2013 12:37:24   #
Lou wrote:
What's a " turn coast " ?


A typo.
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Aug 25, 2013 12:29:06   #
saloopo wrote:
In your arse is more familiar with bed bugs. You do Chiggers a disservice comparing them to this racist.


They deserve each other, except I'm not aware of any racist chiggers.
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Aug 25, 2013 12:22:03   #
Glenn wrote:
banjo, that little girl doesn't seem to be running low on IQ points!
She made her speech cleaner than Obama could read a teleprompter.
Most members of congress on both sides of the isle couldn't compete with her either!
The real genius was in letting a smart little kid make that speech, it had more meaning to me that way.


I wasn't referring to the kid.
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Aug 25, 2013 12:20:50   #
tato wrote:
In 2012, 7960 whites were murdered. 6686 of these were killed by other whites. 1274 were killed by blacks. Thus you screamers should be far more afraid of other whites. 85% of whites murdered were murdered by whites. FBI/CDC database.


I do not have 2012 stats, but in 2010, regarding black/white violent crime, 87% of the victims were white. Concerning your stats, true except that blacks are only 12% of the population, and a far higher percentage of blacks commit crimes of
violence. To narrow it further, almost all of the crimes are committed by male blacks between the ages of 15 and 45. The violent crime rate for other blacks is negligible.
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