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Feb 26, 2024 20:21:25   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
Parky60 wrote:
You're the one who said that there's an agenda not me.


Not my Agenda.
Yours.
My only agenda is to BEAR WITNESS TO THE TRUTH.

What is your agenda?

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Feb 26, 2024 20:25:07   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
TJKMO wrote:
Not my Agenda.
Yours.
My only agenda is to BEAR WITNESS TO THE TRUTH.

What is your agenda?

To glorify my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is everything I say and do.

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Feb 26, 2024 20:27:01   #
Big Kahuna
 
TJKMO wrote:
I don’t take Orders from you.

I have responded several times.
Go find it.
It’s there.

I am not MAGA.

MAGA loves being told what, where, when and how to act.

I am not MAGA.


Just another lie coming from an inherently evil individual. Get baptized, seek a new life and start following the 10 Commandments. That is an order.

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Feb 26, 2024 20:27:05   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
Parky60 wrote:
To glorify my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is everything I say and do.


Then we are EXACTLY alike.

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Feb 26, 2024 20:28:08   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
TJKMO wrote:
Then we are EXACTLY alike.

No we are not. You are a witness to the lies of the wicked one... the father of lies.

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Feb 26, 2024 20:30:37   #
Big Kahuna
 
Rose42 wrote:
Good luck getting TJ to be honest.


Yes, she was born evil.

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Feb 26, 2024 20:36:20   #
Big Kahuna
 
TJKMO wrote:
I am a Male.
Those kind of facts are irrelevant to the AGENDA.


A transgendered male in all probability. Seek help for your disabilities.

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Feb 26, 2024 20:50:31   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
TJKMO wrote:
My only agenda is:

I COME TO BEAR WITNESS TO THE TRUTH.

That is what I have stated from the very first day I started posting on OPP 1/1/24.
You never let us forget it.
Argumentum ad Naseam is a logical fallacy which occurs when someone attempts to convince an audience of a claim simply by repeating it multiple times. This fallacy is based on the idea that if something is said repeatedly, it must be true. This type of argument relies on the fallacy of appeal to repeated assertion, which is the idea that repetition of a claim is enough to make it true.

So, what truths have you born witness to since you've been here?

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Feb 26, 2024 20:55:18   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You never let us forget it.
Argumentum ad Naseam is a logical fallacy which occurs when someone attempts to convince an audience of a claim simply by repeating it multiple times. This fallacy is based on the idea that if something is said repeatedly, it must be true. This type of argument relies on the fallacy of appeal to repeated assertion, which is the idea that repetition of a claim is enough to make it true.

So, what truths have you born witness to since you've been here?


It is spelled NAUSEUM.

If you keep repeating that lie, at least spell it correctly.

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Feb 26, 2024 21:35:32   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I have and I stand by my statement . A newborn is not evil and born unclothed and needing to suck .


Hi Tom, A newborn is not evil………They are precious in the sight of our Lord and Savior! However, we are all born sinners. Below is a site that I often use in discussions concerning the Bible. I hope this helps you understand why many on this thread is making the claim that babies are born sinners! I have to admit…..they sure are cute sinners! 🤗. They are definitely born butt-naked and hungry!


Are we all born sinners?

Yes, the Bible teaches that we are all born sinners with sinful, selfish natures. Unless we are born again by the Spirit of God, we will never see the kingdom of God (John 3:3).

Humanity is totally depraved; that is, all of us have a sinful nature that affects every part of us (Isaiah 53:6; Romans 7:14). The question is, where did that sinful nature come from? Were we born sinners, or did we simply choose to become sinners sometime after birth?

We are born with a sinful nature, and we inherited it from Adam. “Sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people” (Romans 5:12). Every one of us was affected by Adam’s sin; there are no exceptions. “One trespass resulted in condemnation for all people” (verse 18). We are all sinners, and we all share the same condemnation, because we are all children of Adam.

Scripture indicates that even children have a sin nature, which argues for the fact that we are born sinners. “Folly is bound up in the heart of a child” (Proverbs 22:15). David says, “Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).

Before we were saved, “we were by nature deserving of wrath” (Ephesians 2:3). Note that we deserved God’s wrath not only because of our actions but because of our nature. That nature is what we inherited from Adam.

We are born sinners, and for that reason we are unable to do good in order to please God in our natural state, or the flesh: “Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God” (Romans 8:8). We were dead in our sins before Christ raised us to spiritual life (Ephesians 2:1). We lack any inherent spiritual good.

No one has to teach a child to lie; rather, we must go to great lengths to impress upon children the value of telling the truth. Toddlers are naturally selfish, with their innate, although faulty, understanding that everything is “mine.” Sinful behavior comes naturally for the little ones because they are born sinners.

Because we are born sinners, we must experience a second, spiritual birth. We are born once into Adam’s family and are sinners by nature. When we are born again, we are born into God’s family and are given the nature of Christ. We praise the Lord that “to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—children born not of natural descent . . . but born of God” (John 1:12–13).

https://www.gotquestions.org/born-sinners.html

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Feb 26, 2024 21:47:38   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
TexaCan wrote:
Hi Tom, A newborn is not evil………They are precious in the sight of our Lord and Savior! However, we are all born sinners. Below is a site that I often use in discussions concerning the Bible. I hope this helps you understand why many on this thread is making the claim that babies are born sinners! I have to admit…..they sure are cute sinners! 🤗. They are definitely born butt-naked and hungry!


Are we all born sinners?

Yes, the Bible teaches that we are all born sinners with sinful, selfish natures. Unless we are born again by the Spirit of God, we will never see the kingdom of God (John 3:3).

Humanity is totally depraved; that is, all of us have a sinful nature that affects every part of us (Isaiah 53:6; Romans 7:14). The question is, where did that sinful nature come from? Were we born sinners, or did we simply choose to become sinners sometime after birth?

We are born with a sinful nature, and we inherited it from Adam. “Sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people” (Romans 5:12). Every one of us was affected by Adam’s sin; there are no exceptions. “One trespass resulted in condemnation for all people” (verse 18). We are all sinners, and we all share the same condemnation, because we are all children of Adam.

Scripture indicates that even children have a sin nature, which argues for the fact that we are born sinners. “Folly is bound up in the heart of a child” (Proverbs 22:15). David says, “Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).

Before we were saved, “we were by nature deserving of wrath” (Ephesians 2:3). Note that we deserved God’s wrath not only because of our actions but because of our nature. That nature is what we inherited from Adam.

We are born sinners, and for that reason we are unable to do good in order to please God in our natural state, or the flesh: “Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God” (Romans 8:8). We were dead in our sins before Christ raised us to spiritual life (Ephesians 2:1). We lack any inherent spiritual good.

No one has to teach a child to lie; rather, we must go to great lengths to impress upon children the value of telling the truth. Toddlers are naturally selfish, with their innate, although faulty, understanding that everything is “mine.” Sinful behavior comes naturally for the little ones because they are born sinners.

Because we are born sinners, we must experience a second, spiritual birth. We are born once into Adam’s family and are sinners by nature. When we are born again, we are born into God’s family and are given the nature of Christ. We praise the Lord that “to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—children born not of natural descent . . . but born of God” (John 1:12–13).

https://www.gotquestions.org/born-sinners.html
Hi Tom, A newborn is not evil………They are precious... (show quote)


Well done excellent post.

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Feb 26, 2024 22:07:28   #
Rose42
 
TJKMO wrote:
It is spelled NAUSEUM.

If you keep repeating that lie, at least spell it correctly.


He didn’t lie. What he said is pretty well known.

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Feb 26, 2024 22:08:46   #
Rose42
 
TexaCan wrote:
Hi Tom, A newborn is not evil………They are precious in the sight of our Lord and Savior! However, we are all born sinners. Below is a site that I often use in discussions concerning the Bible. I hope this helps you understand why many on this thread is making the claim that babies are born sinners! I have to admit…..they sure are cute sinners! 🤗. They are definitely born butt-naked and hungry!


Are we all born sinners?

Yes, the Bible teaches that we are all born sinners with sinful, selfish natures. Unless we are born again by the Spirit of God, we will never see the kingdom of God (John 3:3).

Humanity is totally depraved; that is, all of us have a sinful nature that affects every part of us (Isaiah 53:6; Romans 7:14). The question is, where did that sinful nature come from? Were we born sinners, or did we simply choose to become sinners sometime after birth?

We are born with a sinful nature, and we inherited it from Adam. “Sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people” (Romans 5:12). Every one of us was affected by Adam’s sin; there are no exceptions. “One trespass resulted in condemnation for all people” (verse 18). We are all sinners, and we all share the same condemnation, because we are all children of Adam.

Scripture indicates that even children have a sin nature, which argues for the fact that we are born sinners. “Folly is bound up in the heart of a child” (Proverbs 22:15). David says, “Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).

Before we were saved, “we were by nature deserving of wrath” (Ephesians 2:3). Note that we deserved God’s wrath not only because of our actions but because of our nature. That nature is what we inherited from Adam.

We are born sinners, and for that reason we are unable to do good in order to please God in our natural state, or the flesh: “Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God” (Romans 8:8). We were dead in our sins before Christ raised us to spiritual life (Ephesians 2:1). We lack any inherent spiritual good.

No one has to teach a child to lie; rather, we must go to great lengths to impress upon children the value of telling the truth. Toddlers are naturally selfish, with their innate, although faulty, understanding that everything is “mine.” Sinful behavior comes naturally for the little ones because they are born sinners.

Because we are born sinners, we must experience a second, spiritual birth. We are born once into Adam’s family and are sinners by nature. When we are born again, we are born into God’s family and are given the nature of Christ. We praise the Lord that “to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—children born not of natural descent . . . but born of God” (John 1:12–13).

https://www.gotquestions.org/born-sinners.html
Hi Tom, A newborn is not evil………They are precious... (show quote)



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Feb 26, 2024 22:12:50   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
keepuphope wrote:
Psss micro I'm a woman lol.


I'm so sorry I just was so mad to see that he turned your statement into something that was an absolutele lie. I knew that from past postings but it just went right out of my head.

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Feb 26, 2024 22:25:50   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
microphor wrote:
I'm so sorry I just was so mad to see that he turned your statement into something that was an absolutele lie. I knew that from past postings but it just went right out of my head.


Calm down.
Take DEEP BREATHS.

I am told your HISSY FIT WILL PASS.

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