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Apr 22, 2018 07:19:17   #
Big Kahuna
 
Bruce Hass wrote:
Hollis Phelps', Professor of Interdisciplinary studies at Mercer University in Macon, GA wrote an article titled "Maybe It's Time to Admit that the 'Grotesque Caricature' of White Evangelicals is the Reality" where he examines the pathology. He writes the following:

"There’s no doubt that evangelicalism seems to have an image problem, especially since its overwhelming alliance with Trump. In the minds of many outside the fold, evangelicalism no longer represents a specific religious position centered on sin and the need for individual salvation but rather a self-serving, power-hungry political movement that will side with the devil himself for the sake of political pragmatism.
“When people say what does it mean to be an evangelical, people don’t say evangelism or the gospel,” Birdsall told the Washington Post. But this image problem isn’t new. Although polling shows that overall feelings toward evangelicals as a religious group have remained relatively stable since 2014, the perception of evangelicals as “agents of intolerance,” to quote John McCain back in 2008, well predates the Trump era. And besides, we shouldn’t chalk it all up to image. The fact remains that over 80% of self-identified white evangelical voters cast their lot with Trump. Moreover, despite a host of missteps and scandals, overall evangelical support for Trump as president hasn’t declined but grown.
Phelps posits the pretext that the White Evangelical uses to support Donald Trump and turns it on its head.
Given the consistency with which white evangelicals as a whole have lent their support to Trump—and right-wing candidates and policies more generally—it’s far past time to own up to the fact that the image is, in many respects, the reality."

"Well-intentioned evangelical leaders may not like to hear that, but it remains the case that an overwhelming majority of evangelicals continue to support Trump and his policies. Sure, they may have issues with his moral center, or lack thereof, but they’re willing to overlook all this for the sake of political expediency, for promises of “religious freedom,” and the hope of a judiciary stacked with conservative judges. This is because, at the end of the day, evangelicalism isn’t really about personal values but, rather, social and political conversion and control."
Hollis Phelps', Professor of Interdisciplinary stu... (show quote)


The only people and groups trying to politically and socially control others is the left , the demonrats, and the corrupt media. They think government is the answer and it will usher in utopia. This plan has already been tried and has been a miserable failure as totalitarianism is contrary to liberty and man's free will. People who spout the demonratic party line about Christianity and evangelism are truly misled by the Communist, corrupt press and the totalitarian demonratic party and have never really studied Biblical principles and the higher moral values that it hopes its followers aspire to. The bigotry of some on this web site is quite profound and several courses in theology and the study of the positive results that Christianity has added to any civilization should be mandatory before the bigots start talking nonsense as usual. Most bigots don't even realize or show gratitude for living in the greatest country in the world with its foundations established by the higher morals of Judeo/Christian values which made this country so great!! The leftists want us to regress back to the Dark Ages. Yes, bigotry is alive and well in our country and the leftists own that moniker.

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Apr 22, 2018 07:26:18   #
Big Kahuna
 
Bruce Hass wrote:
>>>>>
I tried to alert you with an honest title. Thanks for trying.


We really don't need to be alerted by you leftists since we are used to leftist indoctrination coming from the media, the demonrats, the universities, hollyweird and most entertainment media. Unfortunately, you snowflakes always need to be informed of anything that is of a conservative higher moral significance as you leftists never want to hear another viewpoint or the truth. Just look at the totalitarian nature of our universities and you can see where society is heading and it doesn't look too promising.

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Apr 22, 2018 07:44:23   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
I started to read this and threw in the towel. It looks like the usual leftist psycho-babble.


Good morning Crazyzealot.

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Apr 22, 2018 09:02:09   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Sounds to me like professor Phelps is in the throws of white guilt.

The primary reason well intentioned evangelicals lend their support to Trump is because of the deplorable unholy mess that opposes him. If that brands us as intolerant, so be it.




Right you are brother.

Semper Fi brother
God bless America and President Trump

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Apr 22, 2018 10:39:24   #
Lonewolf
 
And you formed the party of trump and roy Moore good luck with that



uote=Zemirah]Speaking of "Evangelicals: “We aren’t called to be like others the world calls 'Christians'; We are called to be like Christ.” A. W. Tozer

Spiritual Wisdom:
1st Corinthians 2:14-16: "The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 'For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?' But we have the mind of Christ."

This quoted professor Phelps knows nothing of what Christianity is or is not! His words "expose" only his own pure ignorance:[/quote]

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Apr 22, 2018 10:48:37   #
Lonewolf
 
When we were truly grate we had morals and would never vote for a trump or roy Moore, remember Gary heart all he did was spend a weekend with his girl friend he was singel but it cost him a chance at the wh
We come along way in the wrong direction.
Christians were really chirstian back then.





quote=drlarrygino]The only people and groups trying to politically and socially control others is the left , the demonrats, and the corrupt media. They think government is the answer and it will usher in utopia. This plan has already been tried and has been a miserable failure as totalitarianism is contrary to liberty and man's free will. People who spout the demonratic party line about Christianity and evangelism are truly misled by the Communist, corrupt press and the totalitarian demonratic party and have never really studied Biblical principles and the higher moral values that it hopes its followers aspire to. The bigotry of some on this web site is quite profound and several courses in theology and the study of the positive results that Christianity has added to any civilization should be mandatory before the bigots start talking nonsense as usual. Most bigots don't even realize or show gratitude for living in the greatest country in the world with its foundations established by the higher morals of Judeo/Christian values which made this country so great!! The leleftists want to regress back to the Dark Ages. Yes, bigotry is alive and well in our country and the leftists own that moniker.[/quote]

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Apr 22, 2018 11:03:50   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Lonewolf wrote:
And you formed the party of trump and roy Moore good luck with that



President Trump was quite capable of forming his own excellent political campaign. He did not form a new political party, although it would have behooved him and the nation had he done so.

Roy Moore has never been indicted for any crime, never tried for one, never convicted of one. He is innocent until proven guilty of a crime.

He was defeated through lies and deceit, which is absolutely all of which the Democratic party is capable.



Zemirah wrote:
Speaking of "Evangelicals: “We aren’t called to be like others the world calls 'Christians'; We are called to be like Christ.” A. W. Tozer

Spiritual Wisdom:
1st Corinthians 2:14-16: "The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 'For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?' But we have the mind of Christ."

This quoted professor Phelps knows nothing of what Christianity is or is not! His words "expose" only his own pure ignorance:
Speaking of "Evangelicals: “We aren’t called ... (show quote)
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Apr 22, 2018 12:01:52   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
drlarrygino wrote:
The only people and groups trying to politically and socially control others is the left , the demonrats, and the corrupt media. They think government is the answer and it will usher in utopia. This plan has already been tried and has been a miserable failure as totalitarianism is contrary to liberty and man's free will. People who spout the demonratic party line about Christianity and evangelism are truly misled by the Communist, corrupt press and the totalitarian demonratic party and have never really studied Biblical principles and the higher moral values that it hopes its followers aspire to. The bigotry of some on this web site is quite profound and several courses in theology and the study of the positive results that Christianity has added to any civilization should be mandatory before the bigots start talking nonsense as usual. Most bigots don't even realize or show gratitude for living in the greatest country in the world with its foundations established by the higher morals of Judeo/Christian values which made this country so great!! The leftists want us to regress back to the Dark Ages. Yes, bigotry is alive and well in our country and the leftists own that moniker.
The only people and groups trying to politically a... (show quote)



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Apr 22, 2018 12:28:04   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Bruce Hass wrote:
>>>>>
I tried to alert you with an honest title. Thanks for trying.


Interdisciplinary Studies? You mean like studying Underwater Basket Weaving in the South Pacific and White Racism at the same time?

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Apr 22, 2018 13:49:30   #
badbob85037
 
Bruce Hass wrote:
Hollis Phelps', Professor of Interdisciplinary studies at Mercer University in Macon, GA wrote an article titled "Maybe It's Time to Admit that the 'Grotesque Caricature' of White Evangelicals is the Reality" where he examines the pathology. He writes the following:

"There’s no doubt that evangelicalism seems to have an image problem, especially since its overwhelming alliance with Trump. In the minds of many outside the fold, evangelicalism no longer represents a specific religious position centered on sin and the need for individual salvation but rather a self-serving, power-hungry political movement that will side with the devil himself for the sake of political pragmatism.
“When people say what does it mean to be an evangelical, people don’t say evangelism or the gospel,” Birdsall told the Washington Post. But this image problem isn’t new. Although polling shows that overall feelings toward evangelicals as a religious group have remained relatively stable since 2014, the perception of evangelicals as “agents of intolerance,” to quote John McCain back in 2008, well predates the Trump era. And besides, we shouldn’t chalk it all up to image. The fact remains that over 80% of self-identified white evangelical voters cast their lot with Trump. Moreover, despite a host of missteps and scandals, overall evangelical support for Trump as president hasn’t declined but grown.
Phelps posits the pretext that the White Evangelical uses to support Donald Trump and turns it on its head.
Given the consistency with which white evangelicals as a whole have lent their support to Trump—and right-wing candidates and policies more generally—it’s far past time to own up to the fact that the image is, in many respects, the reality."

"Well-intentioned evangelical leaders may not like to hear that, but it remains the case that an overwhelming majority of evangelicals continue to support Trump and his policies. Sure, they may have issues with his moral center, or lack thereof, but they’re willing to overlook all this for the sake of political expediency, for promises of “religious freedom,” and the hope of a judiciary stacked with conservative judges. This is because, at the end of the day, evangelicalism isn’t really about personal values but, rather, social and political conversion and control."
Hollis Phelps', Professor of Interdisciplinary stu... (show quote)


Damn, I'm an evangelist and didn't even know it. Anybody need blessed?

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Apr 22, 2018 16:34:47   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Damn, I'm an evangelist and didn't even know it. Anybody need blessed?


Always.

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Apr 22, 2018 16:36:31   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
Trump has an unholy mess opposing him (he is an unholy deplorable mess), so they support an unholy deplorable mess...not sure how or why that works.
Project much?

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Apr 22, 2018 17:46:59   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Betta wrote:
You have not made the distinction between man-made religion and true followers of Christ. There's a HUGE difference between the two.


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Apr 22, 2018 17:54:44   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Zemirah wrote:
President Trump was quite capable of forming his own excellent political campaign. He did not form a new political party, although it would have behooved him and the nation had he done so.

Roy Moore has never been indicted for any crime, never tried for one, never convicted of one. He is innocent until proven guilty of a crime.

He was defeated through lies and deceit, which is absolutely all of which the Democratic party is capable.

Have you noticed that since the election not a peep out of the leftists about Moore? They succeeded in what they wanted to accomplish.

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Apr 22, 2018 18:09:02   #
Bruce Hass
 
Zemirah wrote:
Speaking of "Evangelicals: “We aren’t called to be like others the world calls 'Christians'; We are called to be like Christ.” A. W. Tozer

Spiritual Wisdom:
1st Corinthians 2:14-16: "The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 'For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?' But we have the mind of Christ."

This quoted professor Phelps knows nothing of what Christianity is or is not! His words "expose" only his own pure ignorance:
Speaking of "Evangelicals: “We aren’t called ... (show quote)

>>>>>

King James Bible Proverbs 28:13
"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy."

It's the 'forsaking them' that I don't see. The Hollywood Access tape is followed by more than 15 women, a porn star, and a Playboy Bunny indicating that Trump has followed the comments on the tape rather than forsaking earlier transgressions. If evangelicals "have the mind of Christ", I still see hypocrisy in their telling others how to interpret scripture that is so clear ("murder of infants" ) and defending Trump's fornication and adultery.

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