BigMike Loc: yerington nv

He hasn't done any of that since we hired him.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Bruce Hass

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Would you apply the same criterion to bank robbery? He hasn't robbed a bank since we hired him, so he's ok now. Moral argument is exactly the same.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

That what's being saved by grace means.

Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

All religion is man-made

Bruce Hass

Unless it is revealed by God.

Bruce Hass

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Try Ps 16:10 where David knows he is going to spend time in hell for murder and adultery.

Does it sound fair that I should be able to shoot you and then say I am very sorry and immediately be forgiven. That is cheap grace by any standard. And it does not even reflect conservative secular values. Surely there are consequences even with forgiveness being bestowed.

debeda

Lolololololol HAHAHA

youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart

God looks at the heart, you cant. Gods grace has no cost.

rick1958

Fortunately for me I graduated from Mercer before this "professor" and I use the term loosely, was hired to teach some ridiculous course that does nothing to prepare people to function in the real world. I received a fine well rounded education and met many fine Christians of many denominations who have gone on to make this world a better place, or at least tried to.

Bruce Hass

And He does not violate His Word.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

You are wrong about that. Gary Hart was a married man at the time of the publicity, and the affair took place during the campaign, as per the Washington Post's article below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/frenzy/hart2.htm

"Donna Rice was pictured on the lap of Gary Hart on the cover of the June 2, 1987, issue of the National Enquirer (AP)
In the public's mind, probably no event from the 1988 campaign proved more memorable than the undoing of Democratic candidate Gary Hart. Long plagued by rumors of "womanizing," the front-running senator from Colorado watched his chances for the presidency evaporate in May when the Miami Herald reported that Hart, a married man, had spent the night with an attractive young model named Donna Rice.

"Acting on an anonymous tip, the Herald had staked out Hart's Washington townhouse, and while the surveillance was flawed (it was not continuous and both house entrances were not always covered), the circumstances were suspicious enough to generate a massive media frenzy. Hart fought back, but his damage control operation collapsed in the face of other real or threatened disclosures, such as the revelation that Hart and Rice had earlier taken an overnight cruise to Bimini on the aptly christened yacht 'Monkey Business.'"



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mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Yes you are immediately forgiven and there are consequences. But are you sure that you know what you’re talking about referencing Psalm 16:10? Try it in context...

Psalm 16:7-11 (NASB)
7 I will bless the LORD who has counseled me; Indeed, my mind instructs me in the night.
8 I have set the LORD continually before me; Because He is at my right hand, I will not be shaken.
9 Therefore my heart is glad and my glory rejoices; My flesh also will dwell securely.
10 For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay.
11 You will make known to me the path of life; In Your presence is fullness of joy; In Your right hand there are pleasures forever.

David was assured that the Lord would preserve his life in the face of death. He rejoiced because God enabled his body to rest securely even when confronted with death. The reason he could rest is that God would not abandon him to the grave, nor... let His holy one see decay. This verse refers to David, who describes himself as God's "holy one," that is, one of God's saints (cf. v. 3). He took comfort in the fact that God would not, at that time, allow his body to die and decay in the grave. In fact God had caused him to know the path of life so he anticipated experiencing further joy in God's presence (v. 11).

Verses 8-11 were cited by Peter on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:25-28) and Psalm 16:10b was quoted by Paul at Antioch (Acts 13:35-37) in reference to Christ's resurrection. So the words of David are also typological; they transcended his own experience and became historically true in Christ. Preservation from the decaying grave is the idea behind both David's and Jesus' experiences, but with David it came through a deliverance from death, whereas with Jesus it came through a resurrection from death.

Death posed no threat to David because he enjoyed great blessing and fellowship with the Lord. God would not permit death and the grave to interrupt that marvelous fellowship. So in a fuller sense this is true of believers today, who having the full revelation about the doctrine of resurrection, can say that even when they die, God will not let death destroy that full fellowship they enjoy with the Lord (2 Cor. 5:8; Phil. 1:23). This expression of faith is possible because Christ conquered death (Luke 24:6) and rose to become the firstfruits of all who sleep (1 Cor. 15:20).

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

I realize you are attempting to be facetious, however, IF you had been called by God to be an Evangelist, you would know it because you would be blessing others by preaching the gospel to anyone willing to listen.

IF you mean you are an evangelical Christian, there again, you would be attempting to proclaim the gospel yourself or enabling others to do so, in fulfillment of the Great Commission given us by Jesus Christ:

Mark 16:15-16: "And He (Jesus) said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

Yes, I have noticed.

Just as with Herman Cain, when unknown women were coming out of the woodwork with no proof whatsoever of their accusations, and immediately after the election, their silence became deafening.

There are no lawsuits, no further rabidly obsessive reporting by the MSM: All is accomplished, so all is immediately forgotten...

It is a sad commentary on those who have seen these men serve in their respective churches and neighborhoods for many years as devout Christians, to so easily buy into the lies of the Media, rather than continuing to support them by coming out to vote.

Jesus told us: "I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves."
(Matthew 10:16)

His admonition seems to have been forgotten as many allow themselves to be diverted and deceived by "Fake News."