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Aug 17, 2016 19:12:18   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Why would I read anything which I know to be lies because I have the proof:
Like I said, and you have proven once again, you are a shallow, unprincipled, and not very intelligent man. Reliance on that photo as definitive proof of your outrageous theories is likely one of the most intellectually vacuous propositions ever put forth. The very statement that you know something is a lie without having read it is just one in a long list of denials that demonstrate clearly your limited intelligence.

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Aug 18, 2016 03:13:08   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
pafret wrote:
Have you ever heard of the Nanking Massacre? How about the Bataan Death March?

" How about Japan’s Biological and Chemical Warfare in China during WWII? Even today in just one small village of Caojie, near Jinhua in the province of Zhejiang in China, there are hundreds of victims of biological warfare still suffering from painful wounds originated more than 60 years ago when their village was decimated in 1942 by Japan with glanders, anthrax, and other biological weapon agents. The biological weapon attack in Zhejiang province is just one of many thousands of biological and chemical warfare attacks by the Japanese army in many parts of China during the Sino-Japanese War of 1931-1945. These included places in the provinces of Hunan, Jiangsu, Jilin, Kwangtung, Yunnan, and Heilongjiang."

The Japanese proved they had absolutely no regard for how many non-combatants they killed. Have you ever weonderedd why so many pandemics originate in China? Bird Flu, Asian Flu and a hoist of other diseases. Epidemiologists suspect that the mutated results of the Japanese germ warfare program are the gift that keeps on giving.

It doesn't matter what tools were used to end the war, the Japs were warned. Days before the bomb drop there were leaflet drops warning of a new kind of bomb. The Japanese rebuffed all attempts to halt the hostilities numerous times, long after it was obvious they were defeated. Given those circumstances we could have used Lepers out of Molokai to man the planes. Those bombs saved hundreds of thousands of our lives which would be lost invading their home islands.
Have you ever heard of the Nanking Massacre? How ... (show quote)


My grandfather survived the Bataan Death March. I have writings of his experience. It was excruciatingly brutal.

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Aug 18, 2016 03:35:34   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
QuestGirl wrote:
My grandfather survived the Bataan Death March. I have writings of his experience. It was excruciatingly brutal.
Have you seen the Movie, "The Great Raid"? It is the story of the 6th Rangers' rescue of around 500 survivors of the Bataan Death March who were imprisoned in the Cabanatuan prison camp. It stars Benjamin Bratt, Joseph Fiennes, Connie Nielson, and James Franco. The movie is based on Hampton Sides' (a survivor) epic account (The Ghost Soldiers) of World War II's greatest rescue mission.

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Aug 18, 2016 03:53:34   #
PeterS
 
payne1000 wrote:
Excerpt:

Tibbets told the authors:

“I got called on this bomb job … I was told I was going to destroy one city with one bomb. That was quite a thought … We had, working in my organization, a murderer, three men guilty of manslaughter and several felons; all of them had escaped from prison.

“The murderer was serving life; the manslaughter guys were doing ten to fifteen years; the felons three to five. After escaping they had enlisted under false names. They were all skilled technicians … They were all good, real good at their jobs and we needed ‘em. We told them that if they gave us no trouble, they would have no trouble from us.

“After it was over, we called each of them in and handed them their dossiers and a box of matches and said ‘Go burn ‘em.’ You see, I was not running a police department, I was running an outfit that was unique.”


Read more . . . http://www.globalresearch.ca/hiroshima-a-criminal-enterprise-from-which-nothing-has-been-learned/5540173
b Excerpt: /b br br i Tibbets told the authors... (show quote)


That's why is was such a bad idea to attack us. And just think, we could have fire bombed the city and probably killed even more. So is it better to vaporize them or burn them to death. Which do you think would have been more humane? And of course, had we not used the bomb the war would have gone on. Now that would have been great wouldn't it. How many more would have died and go gain what? Honor for the emperor? The bomb was the only option. Just too bad we didn't have it a little sooner--maybe we could have saved more lives...

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Aug 18, 2016 03:57:35   #
PeterS
 
payne1000 wrote:
Pearl harbor gave FDR the excuse he needed to enter the war in Europe.

Here are some of the events which show the Japanese were set up:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl.html

That, and Germany declared war on us right after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Have you not read any actual history or does all your understanding come from conspiracy theory sites? Such a waste....

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Aug 18, 2016 05:04:02   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Have you seen the Movie, "The Great Raid"? It is the story of the 6th Rangers' rescue of around 500 survivors of the Bataan Death March who were imprisoned in the Cabanatuan prison camp. It stars Benjamin Bratt, Joseph Fiennes, Connie Nielson, and James Franco. The movie is based on Hampton Sides' (a survivor) epic account (The Ghost Soldiers) of World War II's greatest rescue mission.


I have heard of "The Ghost Soldiers", but have not read it. Not sure I would fully comprehend the lexicon of the military language. I have not however, heard of the movie "The Great Raid". I will search for it, I certainly like the cast. If my memory serves, McCarthy(?) left these men stranded with little supplies. Proclaiming to return, yet took him nearly three years to do so.

Years ago I found one book with my grandfather's name mentioned. I have since found his name in other literature written on this subject. I do know he was awarded a metal from the Phillipine government for his service. I meant my grandfather once on his deathbed in 1961 or 1962, at the age of four or five.

My family's military careers ended with my oldest brother, Vietnam Green Beret, in the mid 1960's. I was still in grade school when he came to say goodbye. Today, he iives at the end of a very long driveway with two dogs...and it's cold.

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Aug 18, 2016 08:29:31   #
payne1000
 
padremike wrote:
The bomb worked. That was the positive side. It stopped the war, that was also on the plus side. Now what we need is a legitimate chemtrail conspiracy that would emit an antidote to flush the bull shit gene from people like yourself. Oh happy day!


Killing hundreds of thousands of civilians who had nothing to do with starting the war appears to be the MO of the Empire.
The Empire did it again in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. The Empire did it again in Iraq. Perhaps you'll be in the wrong place when the world decides it needs some payback.

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Aug 18, 2016 08:38:06   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Like I said, and you have proven once again, you are a shallow, unprincipled, and not very intelligent man. Reliance on that photo as definitive proof of your outrageous theories is likely one of the most intellectually vacuous propositions ever put forth. The very statement that you know something is a lie without having read it is just one in a long list of denials that demonstrate clearly your limited intelligence.


If the book says Muslims attacked us on 9/11, it's based on a lie.
The fact that the three towers were brought down by controlled demolition proves Muslims didn't attack us on 9/11.



Larry Silverstein controlled access to the towers. He received $4.6 billion in insurance payouts.
Larry Silverstein controlled access to the towers....

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Aug 18, 2016 08:39:48   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
payne1000 wrote:
Killing hundreds of thousands of civilians who had nothing to do with starting the war appears to be the MO of the Empire.
The Empire did it again in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. The Empire did it again in Iraq. Perhaps you'll be in the wrong place when the world decides it needs some payback.


Can you name a war in which the innocent didn't suffer? I believe I recall correctly that more Germans were killed in the bombing of Dresden than in either nuclear attack. And we're not an Empire although Japan was. I'm confident that if Hillary is elected, after the initial destruction by Obama, we will suffer many more attacks by radical Islam and jerks like yourself will clap your hands in glee with some perverted sense of "payback."

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Aug 18, 2016 08:41:50   #
payne1000
 
PeterS wrote:
That's why is was such a bad idea to attack us. And just think, we could have fire bombed the city and probably killed even more. So is it better to vaporize them or burn them to death. Which do you think would have been more humane? And of course, had we not used the bomb the war would have gone on. Now that would have been great wouldn't it. How many more would have died and go gain what? Honor for the emperor? The bomb was the only option. Just too bad we didn't have it a little sooner--maybe we could have saved more lives...
That's why is was such a bad idea to attack us. An... (show quote)


If you knew anything about history, you'd know the Japanese were ready to surrender. The Russians were about to invade Japan and Japan feared the Russians more than the U.S.

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Aug 18, 2016 08:44:54   #
payne1000
 
PeterS wrote:
That, and Germany declared war on us right after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Have you not read any actual history or does all your understanding come from conspiracy theory sites? Such a waste....


If you knew anything about history you'd know that Germany and Japan were allies. When the U.S. drew Japan into war, it was a given Germany would be included in that war.

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Aug 18, 2016 08:52:05   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Have you seen the Movie, "The Great Raid"? It is the story of the 6th Rangers' rescue of around 500 survivors of the Bataan Death March who were imprisoned in the Cabanatuan prison camp. It stars Benjamin Bratt, Joseph Fiennes, Connie Nielson, and James Franco. The movie is based on Hampton Sides' (a survivor) epic account (The Ghost Soldiers) of World War II's greatest rescue mission.


It's a shame no rescue mission saved the 12 American POWs who were incinerated by the a-bomb at Hiroshima.

Maybe you should read Lt. T. C. Cartwright's book.
http://www.nytimes.com/live/president-obama-hiroshima-japan/plaque-evokes-americans-who-died-in-hiroshima/

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Aug 18, 2016 08:58:09   #
payne1000
 
QuestGirl wrote:
I have heard of "The Ghost Soldiers", but have not read it. Not sure I would fully comprehend the lexicon of the military language. I have not however, heard of the movie "The Great Raid". I will search for it, I certainly like the cast. If my memory serves, McCarthy(?) left these men stranded with little supplies. Proclaiming to return, yet took him nearly three years to do so.

Years ago I found one book with my grandfather's name mentioned. I have since found his name in other literature written on this subject. I do know he was awarded a metal from the Phillipine government for his service. I meant my grandfather once on his deathbed in 1961 or 1962, at the age of four or five.

My family's military careers ended with my oldest brother, Vietnam Green Beret, in the mid 1960's. I was still in grade school when he came to say goodbye. Today, he iives at the end of a very long driveway with two dogs...and it's cold.
I have heard of "The Ghost Soldiers", bu... (show quote)


Here's a better read:
A Date with the Lonesome Lady: A Hiroshima POW Returns
"When the Lonesome Lady was shot down during a bombing run in the Inland Sea of Japan, Pilot T. C. Cartwright and his crew became POWs. The men were interned at Hiroshima, and while the author was sent to Tokyo for interrogation, his entire crew was killed by the U. S. atomic bomb. The military failed to properly report the death of his crew. This story was reported in the New York Times and in several newspaper articles, but for the first time the author tells the story in his on words."
https://www.amazon.com/Date-Lonesome-Lady-Hiroshima-Returns/dp/1571686304

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Aug 18, 2016 09:04:10   #
payne1000
 
padremike wrote:
Can you name a war in which the innocent didn't suffer? I believe I recall correctly that more Germans were killed in the bombing of Dresden than in either nuclear attack. And we're not an Empire although Japan was. I'm confident that if Hillary is elected, after the initial destruction by Obama, we will suffer many more attacks by radical Islam and jerks like yourself will clap your hands in glee with some perverted sense of "payback."


The U.S. is not an Empire? You just showed how ignorant you really are.
Name one other country which has so many military bases around the world that an accurate count has not been made.

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Aug 18, 2016 10:34:10   #
payne1000
 
padremike wrote:
Can you name a war in which the innocent didn't suffer? I believe I recall correctly that more Germans were killed in the bombing of Dresden than in either nuclear attack. And we're not an Empire although Japan was. I'm confident that if Hillary is elected, after the initial destruction by Obama, we will suffer many more attacks by radical Islam and jerks like yourself will clap your hands in glee with some perverted sense of "payback."


Like most of what you post, your statement that more Germans were killed in Dresden than in Hiroshima or Nagasaki is totally false. No more than 25,000 were killed in Dresden. 146,000 died in Hiroshima. 80,000 died in Nagasaki. Similar to Hiroshima, there were American POWs in Dresden when the firebombing took place. American Kurt Vonnegut survived the holocaust and later wrote "Slaughterhouse Five" drawn from his experiences there.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/firebombing-of-dresden

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