payne1000

Excerpt:

Tibbets told the authors:

“I got called on this bomb job … I was told I was going to destroy one city with one bomb. That was quite a thought … We had, working in my organization, a murderer, three men guilty of manslaughter and several felons; all of them had escaped from prison.

“The murderer was serving life; the manslaughter guys were doing ten to fifteen years; the felons three to five. After escaping they had enlisted under false names. They were all skilled technicians … They were all good, real good at their jobs and we needed ‘em. We told them that if they gave us no trouble, they would have no trouble from us.

“After it was over, we called each of them in and handed them their dossiers and a box of matches and said ‘Go burn ‘em.’ You see, I was not running a police department, I was running an outfit that was unique.”

Read more . . . http://www.globalresearch.ca/hiroshima-a-criminal-enterprise-from-which-nothing-has-been-learned/5540173

sweetlips

papers have now came to light now, that tell how FDR pushed Japan into that war

payne1000

Pearl harbor gave FDR the excuse he needed to enter the war in Europe.

Here are some of the events which show the Japanese were set up:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl.html

pafret Loc: Northeast

Have you ever heard of the Nanking Massacre? How about the Bataan Death March?

" How about Japan’s Biological and Chemical Warfare in China during WWII? Even today in just one small village of Caojie, near Jinhua in the province of Zhejiang in China, there are hundreds of victims of biological warfare still suffering from painful wounds originated more than 60 years ago when their village was decimated in 1942 by Japan with glanders, anthrax, and other biological weapon agents. The biological weapon attack in Zhejiang province is just one of many thousands of biological and chemical warfare attacks by the Japanese army in many parts of China during the Sino-Japanese War of 1931-1945. These included places in the provinces of Hunan, Jiangsu, Jilin, Kwangtung, Yunnan, and Heilongjiang."

The Japanese proved they had absolutely no regard for how many non-combatants they killed. Have you ever weonderedd why so many pandemics originate in China? Bird Flu, Asian Flu and a hoist of other diseases. Epidemiologists suspect that the mutated results of the Japanese germ warfare program are the gift that keeps on giving.

It doesn't matter what tools were used to end the war, the Japs were warned. Days before the bomb drop there were leaflet drops warning of a new kind of bomb. The Japanese rebuffed all attempts to halt the hostilities numerous times, long after it was obvious they were defeated. Given those circumstances we could have used Lepers out of Molokai to man the planes. Those bombs saved hundreds of thousands of our lives which would be lost invading their home islands.

payne1000

The truth behind the atom-bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is that they were a testing ground for nuclear weapons and a warning to Russia and the rest of the world that the U.S. had a frightening new weapon.

pafret Loc: Northeast

I doubt they looked that far ahead, the main impetus was to beat the Japanese in developing and deploying the bomb. We had stopped the German development program but Hitler sent the technical capability and uranium to Japan. Our first bomb was tested at Trinity Site near Alamagordo New Mexico. Trinity Site was opened to the public for an Easter Sunrise Mass in 1956. I attended that service and we were cautioned not to pick up any material since it was still hot. It looked like a gigantic black scar on the yellow sand.

The government scientists studied the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blast sites in minute detail. They documented their findings in a classified (Top Secret) Army manual Mil ?? called "The Effects of Nuclear Weapons". It was filled with photos of the damage of all kinds to buildings and people. It had layouts of fallout patterns for various Kiloton bombs with the number of deaths to be expected over time with various distances and exposure times. It was a gruesome book, it gave me nightmares for a long time.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

And up pops our resident putz with another conspiracy. You're 71 years late and a dollar short, bubba. Really a shame that you didn't make it to the end of the assembly line, some critical parts didn't get bolted on--like the parts inside your skull.

payne1000

Your last statement supports what I said about Nagasaki and Hiroshima being a nuclear testing ground to see what the bomb would do to a city and its inhabitants.

payne1000

You never did give the name or location of those collapsing buildings you claimed you witnessed.
Lies and insults are your only agenda on this forum.
How does it feel to be an anonymous nobody who is afraid to reveal his name to a bunch of old codgers on this forum?

thinksense

In 1952 I was at the first Atom Bomb test involving military troops (US.Marines) at Yucca Flats Nevada near Las Vegas.

The Bomb, which was of the same power as the Hiroshima bomb, was set off at 1200 feet.
We Marines were in slit trenches four miles from Ground Zero, and after the bomb went off walked to within 900 feet of G.Z., mimicking an invasion of the area.
From having been shown films of atomic tests, and of Hiroshima, I expected something monstrous. But alas the test was a great disappointment.

1...½ Hour before the drop they tested the seismic equipment meant to measure the blast effect. The sound of the test by 2000 lbs of TNT was about the same as the bomb. And there was no Roaring sound following, as the films depict. Just a loud, sharp Boom.
2...The pressure wave when it reached us in our trenches which were four miles away from Ground Zero, and which I was braced for, turned out to be a gentle breeze.
3...There was a Sherman Tank at ground zero which other than some charring of the paint and having been flipped so that the front was buried in the sand, causing the tank to stand at about a 20 degree angledid not seem too badly damaged. The tank’s gun was not bent or appearing otherwise injured. The tank appeared as though you could climb in and drive it away.
3...At ground zero, the dummies of soldiers, one of which was in a 6 foot fox hole, one was in a 6 inch hole and one which was standing were all charred and destroyed. (I didn’t actually see the ones in the holes as we were only allowed to get within 900 feet of GZ.) There were also dummies set up the same way at 300 feet and 600 feet, which showed much less damage, with the furthest out having the standing scare crow dummy still standing, and 2 charred, the deepest wasn’t even charred, we were later told.
4...The desert was not turned to glass, nor was there a big cavity (none at all) blasted into the soft desert sands.
5...After walking down to within 3 football fields of GZ and standing around for about ½ hour we walked back out, picking up lots of sand dust, especially on our boots. We were checked with a gieger counter to determine how much radiation we had picked up, then sent into a portable shower and threw away our uniforms and received new ones. As the fellow with the Geiger counter was going over me, I could hear the instrument ticking. I asked the fellow how much radiation I had received, and instead of answering me he went over me again, slowly so I could hear the clicking clearly. He held the counter pickup over my hair and I heard a relatively slow clicking, then over my boots which clicked about twice as fast, then over my wrist watch which had radium painted onto the 12, 6 and 9 as well as on the watch hands (which in those days would allow you to see the time in the dark, all night long; I notice that my watches now a days only glow for a couple of hours). The watch made the Geiger counter ROAR.

I concluded that the films we had been shown, were selectively chosen or faked. I realize that an atomic explosion is not something you want to be involved with, but it is not something like they depict to scare the H out of all the Goyem.

thinksense

Incidentally, the desert did not turn into black glass, nor was there any ditch or hole dug by the bomb blast.

payne1000

I find your use of the word "Goyim" to be confusing.
Goyim means non-Jewish.
Are you saying Jews (they) are trying to scare the hell out of non-Jews?
Or did you use "Goyim" to differentiate yourself from those of us who are non-Jewish?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

You have repeatedly proven that there is good reason for denying you any information regarding my identity, my life, and my experiences. First of all, you are not principled or objective enough to accept anything I say, or anything anyone else who opposes you says, so there is nothing left with which to respond to you but insults. You are one of the most shallow, unprincipled and dishonest individuals I've ever encountered.

I have a suggestion for you, a recommended reading. Lawrence Wright, winner of the Pulitzer Prize, winner of the Helen Bernstein Book Award for Excellence in Journalism, winner of the Lionel Gelber Prize, winner of the LA Times Book Prize, and Arthur Ross Book Award finalist, and on more than twenty five Best Books of the Year list, researched and wrote The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11. For this work he interviewed more than 500 people--including members of the FBI, CIA, congress and corporations, the military, AND members of the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaeda, and many others with factual knowledge and/or experience on both sides of the fence. This history of radical Islam's road to 9/11 covers over five decades. It begins in 1948.

Of course, I don't really expect you to read this for the simple reason that any historical research of facts that refute your ideologically driven agenda, that disproves unequivocally your political fantasies, and exposes your racial hatred would be too much of a challenge for an unprincipled, dishonest, entirely secular and subjective intellect.

payne1000

Why would I read anything which I know to be lies because I have the proof:

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

The bomb worked. That was the positive side. It stopped the war, that was also on the plus side. Now what we need is a legitimate chemtrail conspiracy that would emit an antidote to flush the bull shit gene from people like yourself. Oh happy day!