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Hiroshima – A Criminal Enterprise From Which Nothing Has Been Learned
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Aug 20, 2016 10:14:37   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
payne1000 wrote:
As is always the case, nothing you post makes sense.
Now you're implying that Hirohito and McArthur were like friends.
The only way to make sense out of that is if McArthur felt he owed
Hirohito for helping the U.S. enter the war in Europe.


And you always picking someone's words apart and rearranging them to suit your your purpose because you think you're smarter than everyone else is why you're such a Payne in the butt.

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Aug 20, 2016 10:33:58   #
payne1000
 
padremike wrote:
And you always picking someone's words apart and rearranging them to suit your your purpose because you think you're smarter than everyone else is why you're such a Payne in the butt.


I see you choose to belittle me instead of refuting what I post.
Explaining why you think I'm wrong would force you to think.
Logic and reason does not appear to your strong suit.

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Aug 20, 2016 10:55:53   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
payne1000 wrote:
I see you choose to belittle me instead of refuting what I post.
Explaining why you think I'm wrong would force you to think.
Logic and reason does not appear to your strong suit.


Common sense and balance appear to be your own deficiencies but you, of course, aren't interested in focusing on them. That's not a problem for us though, we're just trying to help you through these difficult times.

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Aug 20, 2016 11:05:46   #
payne1000
 
padremike wrote:
Common sense and balance appear to be your own deficiencies but you, of course, aren't interested in focusing on them. That's not a problem for us though, we're just trying to help you through these difficult times.


Still no rebuttal.

Isn't it time you proved you possess any common sense?

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Aug 20, 2016 11:31:31   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
payne1000 wrote:
Still no rebuttal.

Isn't it time you proved you possess any common sense?


Rebuttals with you are a waste of time. In electrical terms it's like discharging into a nonconductor. Read, mark, learn and inwardly digest. Now go sit in the back of the truck and be quiet.

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Aug 20, 2016 12:53:32   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
thinksense wrote:
In 1952 I was at the first Atom Bomb test involving military troops (US.Marines) at Yucca Flats Nevada near Las Vegas.

The Bomb, which was of the same power as the Hiroshima bomb, was set off at 1200 feet.
We Marines were in slit trenches four miles from Ground Zero, and after the bomb went off walked to within 900 feet of G.Z., mimicking an invasion of the area.
From having been shown films of atomic tests, and of Hiroshima, I expected something monstrous. But alas the test was a great disappointment.

1...½ Hour before the drop they tested the seismic equipment meant to measure the blast effect. The sound of the test by 2000 lbs of TNT was about the same as the bomb. And there was no Roaring sound following, as the films depict. Just a loud, sharp Boom.
2...The pressure wave when it reached us in our trenches which were four miles away from Ground Zero, and which I was braced for, turned out to be a gentle breeze.
3...There was a Sherman Tank at ground zero which other than some charring of the paint and having been flipped so that the front was buried in the sand, causing the tank to stand at about a 20 degree angledid not seem too badly damaged. The tank’s gun was not bent or appearing otherwise injured. The tank appeared as though you could climb in and drive it away.
3...At ground zero, the dummies of soldiers, one of which was in a 6 foot fox hole, one was in a 6 inch hole and one which was standing were all charred and destroyed. (I didn’t actually see the ones in the holes as we were only allowed to get within 900 feet of GZ.) There were also dummies set up the same way at 300 feet and 600 feet, which showed much less damage, with the furthest out having the standing scare crow dummy still standing, and 2 charred, the deepest wasn’t even charred, we were later told.
4...The desert was not turned to glass, nor was there a big cavity (none at all) blasted into the soft desert sands.
5...After walking down to within 3 football fields of GZ and standing around for about ½ hour we walked back out, picking up lots of sand dust, especially on our boots. We were checked with a gieger counter to determine how much radiation we had picked up, then sent into a portable shower and threw away our uniforms and received new ones. As the fellow with the Geiger counter was going over me, I could hear the instrument ticking. I asked the fellow how much radiation I had received, and instead of answering me he went over me again, slowly so I could hear the clicking clearly. He held the counter pickup over my hair and I heard a relatively slow clicking, then over my boots which clicked about twice as fast, then over my wrist watch which had radium painted onto the 12, 6 and 9 as well as on the watch hands (which in those days would allow you to see the time in the dark, all night long; I notice that my watches now a days only glow for a couple of hours). The watch made the Geiger counter ROAR.

I concluded that the films we had been shown, were selectively chosen or faked. I realize that an atomic explosion is not something you want to be involved with, but it is not something like they depict to scare the H out of all the Goyem.
In 1952 I was at the first Atom Bomb test involvi... (show quote)


As a boy I had a good friend who was much older than I was. We became friends after he crushed my foot, while playing football with my brother and the other big guys. Lawrence went out for a pass while looking back and unfortunately I was in his path. I spent the whole summer with my foot, in a cast, on my front porch, and Lawrence felt so bad about what happened he came over often and sat and talked with me for a couple of hours.

Larry as we called him got pulled into the military as soon as he graduated from high-school and when he returned, I went to his house to see him. I asked about his experiences in the military and Larry was excited about what just happened to him.

The Army assembled a group of GI's who were scheduled for discharge in two weeks at Yucca Flats in 1952, and had them in trenches in the open and they ran them through the blast zone minutes after detonation and blast wave ending. They then sent these men to the discharge centers and sent them home.

Within three months, my friend Lawrence Lorusso, was diagnosed with cancer. In five months he was dead, every organ in his body riddled with cancer. He was just shy of twenty one years old.

Those criminally insane bastards who were responsible were fully knowledgeable of what the effects of nuclear radiation, in bomb zones would be and sent them anyway. Their callous disregard for human life is evidenced by the fact that they took individuals who were leaving the military within the week and performed no follow up what ever. They sent these men home to get sick or die without ever acknowledging that their deaths were due to experimentation. All they wanted to know is could soldiers continue to fight after being exposed to deadly radiation doses.

I didn't know this at the time Larry told me his story, I became educated years later when I read a classified military book which documented "The Effects of Nuclear Radiation". This was a study of the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blasts. It showed fallout patterns and listed death zones from blast and fallout and how much exposure caused death and how long it would take. I realize that our government had allowed "scientists" to sacrifice and kill our own people, in the name of experiment, when the data was already known.

The callous coverup of choosing men who would not be able to obtain military medical care and thus concealing their morally evil actions, is reprehensible beyond words to convey. I sincerely hope that all of them are burning in the deepest pits of hell

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Aug 20, 2016 12:57:21   #
payne1000
 
padremike wrote:
Rebuttals with you are a waste of time. In electrical terms it's like discharging into a nonconductor. Read, mark, learn and inwardly digest. Now go sit in the back of the truck and be quiet.


A rebuttal would show readers you have an understanding of the issues being discussed.
Ridicule and insults indicate you do not have anything worthwhile to offer.

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Aug 20, 2016 13:02:49   #
payne1000
 
pafret wrote:
As a boy I had a good friend who was much older than I was. We became friends after he crushed my foot, while playing football with my brother and the other big guys. Lawrence went out for a pass while looking back and unfortunately I was in his path. I spent the whole summer with my foot, in a cast, on my front porch, and Lawrence felt so bad about what happened he came over often and sat and talked with me for a couple of hours.

Larry as we called him got pulled into the military as soon as he graduated from high-school and when he returned, I went to his house to see him. I asked about his experiences in the military and Larry was excited about what just happened to him.

The Army assembled a group of GI's who were scheduled for discharge in two weeks at Yucca Flats in 1952, and had them in trenches in the open and they ran them through the blast zone minutes after detonation and blast wave ending. They then sent these men to the discharge centers and sent them home.

Within three months, my friend Lawrence Lorusso, was diagnosed with cancer. In five months he was dead, every organ in his body riddled with cancer. He was just shy of twenty one years old.

Those criminally insane bastards who were responsible were fully knowledgeable of what the effects of nuclear radiation, in bomb zones would be and sent them anyway. Their callous disregard for human life is evidenced by the fact that they took individuals who were leaving the military within the week and performed no follow up what ever. They sent these men home to get sick or die without ever acknowledging that their deaths were due to experimentation. All they wanted to know is could soldiers continue to fight after being exposed to deadly radiation doses.

I didn't know this at the time Larry told me his story, I became educated years later when I read a classified military book which documented "The Effects of Nuclear Radiation". This was a study of the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blasts. It showed fallout patterns and listed death zones from blast and fallout and how much exposure caused death and how long it would take. I realize that our government had allowed "scientists" to sacrifice and kill our own people, in the name of experiment, when the data was already known.

The callous coverup of choosing men who would not be able to obtain military medical care and thus concealing their morally evil actions, is reprehensible beyond words to convey. I sincerely hope that all of them are burning in the deepest pits of hell
As a boy I had a good friend who was much older th... (show quote)


The same psychopathic mindset allowed the perpetrators of 9/11 to say there were no health risks for rescue and cleanup workers at WTC. Look at how many of them have died and are dying from cancer.
http://www.citylab.com/politics/2015/09/14-years-later-heres-what-we-know-about-911-and-cancer/403888/

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