Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

You're so full of crap it isn't even funny anymore.

We are fully aware of your unrelenting campaign to condemn Christianity and ban it forever, but tough shit, Pete, you're fully engaged in a lost cause.

The Bible was a primary text in American schools for nearly 200 years, and many of the early textbooks included

Dilworth's Spelling-Book, 1796

The New Instructor, 1803

Beauties Of The Bible, 1806

The American Spelling Book, 1809

The American Preceptor, 1811

The New-York Reader, 1815

The American Spelling Book, 1816

The Columbian Orator, 1816

Instructions for the Better Government & Organization of Common Schools, 1819

A New Guide To The English Tongue, 1820

The North American Spelling-Book, 1821

The American Spelling Book, 1822

The Universal Preceptor, 1822

The American First Class Book, 1823

The Only Sure Guide To The English Tongue, 1823

The Critical Pronouncing Spelling Book, 1825

The English Reader, 1825

The National Reader, 1828

The Young Scholar's Manual, 1830

The Western Spelling Book, 1831

History of the United States, 1832

A History of the United States, 1833

The United States Spelling Book, 1835

The Elementary Spelling Book, 1842

Cobb's New Spelling Book, 1842

The School Reader, 1842

The American Common-School Reader, 1844

The Child's History of The United States, 1849

The Elementary Spelling Book, 1857

The National Spelling-Book, 1858

Right of the Bible in Our Public Schools, 1859

The Second Reader of The School and Family, 1860

The Little Orator, Or, Primary School Speaker, 1865

The Bible in Schools, 1870

National Elementary Speller, 1870

A Common-School Grammar of The English Language, 1871

Bible Readings For Schools, 1897

The Elementary Spelling Book, 1908

In addition, language texts, primarily Latin, geology, mathematics, history, and many classics such as Aesop's Fables, Pilgrim's Progress, the Romantic and Victorian era poets, the Greek Classics such as Homer and Virgil.

Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD

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Liberty Tree

If you are unaware of the positive influence that Christianity had on the founding of our nation, sustaining it through the years, and making t a great nation and the negative impact that secularism is having on all of our major institutions and government at every level then you are woefully ignorant of history and facts.

PeterS

I'm full of shit? You just argued that the bible was part of my public education--200 years would extend to 1976--yet, other than the one I provided (I was extremely religious as a teen), I don't remember seeing a single one on a teachers desk. And what does the bible have to do with Greek Classics? I think you lost me in your argument.

PeterS

And what negative impact has secularism had?

According to the dictionary definition Secularism is defined as: the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions.

Explain how it is horrible having government excluded from your religious institutions?

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

Well someone finally got it right.

Our forefathers being pressured by the British church of England that was attempting to force their control of the church on people.

That is the reason for separation of church and state. When government ordered prayer removed from the schools this violated the constitution and the SCOTUS ruled in favor of the government they also violated the constitution.

Then under the Muslim President the Muslims were allowed use of a room and excused from their classes to worship their false god. Socilest agenda at work.

God bless America and true American patriots.

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

The intent is to prohibit government from discrimination against ONE religion over the other. It was left up to the individual what religion they choose to follow.

Muslim is NOT A RELIGION IT IS A DESTRUCTIVE CULTURAL HERITAGE.

God bless America and ALL TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS.

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

Worshipping a false GOD is not a religion but a cult. Therefore it WOULD NOT APPLY to Muslims.

God bless America and all true American patriots.

PeterS

So when did government order prayer removed from school?

cold iron Loc: White House

The term " separation of church and state " was in a letter from Jefferson to Adams. There is no law about it in any documents.
If one reads the 1st amendment you will see... Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Did you notice the part saying..Congress shell not prohibit the free exercise thereof religion?? Any fool can see that removing the Bible or the Lord's prayer from a public place is breaking this law.
But we all can see the left only respect laws they like.

PeterS

If we are a Christian nation though how is that not a preference for one religion over the other?

Radiance3

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During the Obama administration, there was a one way street concerning our Christian religion. In public schools, Christian students were not allowed to carry Christian materials, or practice Christian traditions like Christmas holidays in schools. Anybody who violated were suspended or removed from schools.

The Christmas tradition in schools or public offices had been practiced since the declaration of our constitution. Until 1991, government offices stopped celebrating Christmas. Trees displayed in offices were no longer called Christmas tree. They changed to name Giving Tree, and the word Christmas was removed.

But Islam was taught in public schools under Obama's reign. Kids were required to recite that allah was the only god. Muslims were given break time and rugs to pray to Mohammad or Islam.

Thus kids now in public schools are so brainwashed hating Christianity, and hating the Conservatives that carry the tradition.

During Mr. Obama's time, Christian kids in public schools no longer enjoyed the tradition of celebrating Christmas. It was a bleak and sad day for kids.

free believer

True American patriots believe in our Constitution which unequivocally states the separation of church and state. That means that Christian values played an undeniable part in the makeup of the Constitution but prohibits those Christian values that prevent the free practice of other religions such as Islam, Judaism, and Shinto. A good example of how Theocracy ( what Freedom of Religion prohibits ) works is the government of Iran. Perhaps those so called Christians who push Theocracy as "religious freedom" wish they lived in Iran.

Liberty Tree

Just look at our public education system to see the negative impact. Check out our judicial system and how it has suffered from secular liberal judicial activism.

Sicilianthing

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Agreed and true.