PeterS

No, the owners would want a law forcing you to watch and use NFL sponsored goods. Leftist could give a fuk about lining the NFL owners pockets...

PeterS

Don't you think a company that tries to suppress an employees freedom of speech because the owner doesn't agree with it has already disparaged the image of the company?

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

You can protest on your own time...See, if i am working for a company and decide i want to protest during my job, how long do you think its gonna take before they fire me???They dont pay me to protest, they pay me to work!!!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I disagree. The left will contradict itself in order to promote anything they are supportive of. In the NFL case, they support racism, protests against America, and are against anything Trump supports. If it lines the pockets of the NFL owners, they could care less, as long as their agenda continues.

rafterman Loc: South Florida

Don't take my point so narrow. I only meant the National Anthem in regard to the NFL since that was the topic. However, any conduct deemed disparaging by a company can be grounds for disciplinary action or dismissal. Could be child porn, murder, rape, spousal abuse, selling company secrets, etc. In this case I am only saying that the NFL owners have taken a huge PR hit by not getting out in front of the issue by applying a very basic business concept, which is: to remain an employee in good standing these are the behaviors that are unacceptable (in this case kneeling instead of standing for the National Anthem) and these are the punishments for it/them. But to be specific, let's say the company you work for says it is disparaging to the company to not sign a letter of allegiance to the company; and that you were required to sign a letter searing your allegiance on a daily basis. Penalty for not doing so: the 1st offense would be one vacation day; 2nd offense two day suspension from work without pay; 3rd offense, dismissal. What would you do? I repeat: The NFL, in all their self-important grandeur and largesse should have gotten out in front of the situation placing the players on the defensive. Not doing so cost them loads of bad/negative public relations.

PeterS

1) we aren't supportive of NFL owners nor their conduct in trying to suppress speech they don't agree with. 2) how do we support racism in the NFL 3) The protest aren't against America 4) Kaepernick took a knee before Trump opened his mouth, not after. 5) I don't get your last statement. Liberals don't support Nationalism nor its use in trying to destroy the rights granted in the constitution. Its Trump and his cronies who are destroying America not those who took a knee to protest to police brutality...

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

You're kidding, right??

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The SCOTUS ruling in Pickering v. Board of Education applies only to public employees, not those in the private sector.

bahmer

When you work for a company that company sets the rules. they have dress codes and codes of conduct and cover most instances of where an employee is on the company property or representing that company to other businesses as in a situation where you are a service rep representing that company. When you are your own time you can take a knee so to speak all that you want but when you are in the clock you belong to your boss. In the NFL when the players are on the field they represent their boss the owner of the team when they are off the field on their own time they can take a knee and protest what ever it is that bothers them and they can rent a gym and invite others to come and protest but when you put on that uniform you are that companies employee you are not a free man you have rules to follow.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

When you work for someone and you're on the clock, your speech is your employers, not yours. Actually, you are free to say anything at all and your employer is free to fire your ass if it hurts the business. The left just doesn't understand that concept.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I swore the oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

You may be too dumb to realize it, but millions of Americans are fed up with a bunch of spoiled overpaid gridiron gladiators giving our country the big F*CK YOU. Millions of far better men and women gave their lives defending America. The NFL racist pussies can kiss my ass.

bahmer

And taking a knee was hurting the NFL and various teams bottom line so they are in my opinion free to fire each kneeler.

rafterman Loc: South Florida

It is the BEHAVIOR not the speech. The behavior being such things as participating in child porn, spousal abuse, murder, rape, AND not standing for the National Anthem. Not standing for the National Anthem is a behavior and has not a thing to do with speech. You can NOT STAND for the National Anthem on your own time, but while you are on company time YOU MUST STAND for the National Anthem if I identify it beforehand. Simple and easy. The NFL already does it. They tell the players what socks and logo's they can wear and what they can't WHILE PLAYING THE GAME. They can wear any socks or logo's they want on their own time.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Absolutely.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

You are such a lousy loser. (And with all of that practice.)

The players are representing their employers.

You are free to allow your employees to wear your company logo and disrespect America, shout racial slurs, and wear a swastika hat.

The NFL has no such obligation.

The NFL gets paid based on the number of consumers that watch, and those consumers that love America greatly outnumber people like you.