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May 24, 2018 07:38:02   #
Kevyn
 
proud republican wrote:
Stand up or pay the price!!!!...If you want kneel during American Anthem you are gonna have to stay in a locker room during the Anthem and the team will pay dearly!!!
The players union will fight this in arbitration and win. Or the players forced to stand will just raise a black power fist during the anthem like the athletes in Mexico City during the 68 Olympics.



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May 24, 2018 08:03:37   #
PeterS
 
Kevyn wrote:
The players union will fight this in arbitration and win. Or the players forced to stand will just raise a black power fist during the anthem like the athletes in Mexico City during the 68 Olympics.

This has lawsuit written all over it--can't wait to see them unfold...

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May 24, 2018 08:49:16   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
proud republican wrote:
Stand up or pay the price!!!!...If you want kneel during American Anthem you are gonna have to stay in a locker room during the Anthem and the team will pay dearly!!!


I will still boycot them. They are not changing a thing. They are trying to get the money back that their players cost them. They should have fired those players and hired new meat to take their places.

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May 24, 2018 09:30:15   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PeterS wrote:
Freedom of speech is in the First Amendment to the Constitution? Is your argument that the Constitution is un-American?

So what plenty of things don't you allow your employees to say? And I've never had an employer place a speech restriction on me nor did I ever place any speech restrictions on my employees.

If you are going to accuse someone of not putting up an arguable argument should you put up one yourself?
You're actually saying that you're ok with your employees shouting racist comments towards customers? Your customers must be entirely Democrats.

You're acting stupider than you are, which isn't a good move for an Obamabot.

The 1A protects citizens from government censorship.

1A does not allow you to scream racist anti-American Democrat Party talking-points in my house.

And you would be foolish to try.

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May 24, 2018 09:34:05   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Kevyn wrote:
The players union will fight this in arbitration and win. Or the players forced to stand will just raise a black power fist during the anthem like the athletes in Mexico City during the 68 Olympics.

Union contracts might include the right to disrespect America. If so the America-haters will win.

Your idiot leftist demigods are shooting themselves in the face. Americans don't tune in to sports to see people trash America.

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May 24, 2018 10:27:18   #
currahee
 
The Romans at the end of the First Century were not interested in the mentality of their gladiators. They came to the arena to be entertained and to follow through on the preliminary act of saying, "Hail Caesar." These NFL entertainers are finally sobering up to the reality that they are "entertaining in an American tax-payer supported arena." Their paycheck does not come from non-Americans.

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May 24, 2018 10:32:21   #
Mike Easterday
 
Ridiculous! So they still have away of being CRY BABIES! N.F.L. GO TO HELL! You could not pay me to watch a game .

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May 24, 2018 10:49:06   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
The NFL owners have to be the dumbest group of entrepreneurs on the planet. The marketing and public relations departments were out to lunch on this one. The NFL game plans everything but dropped the ball on standing for the National Anthem. They game plan how they negotiate everything from TV contracts to the beer commercials for the Super Bowl. They've lost a lot of viewers like myself. I had been a football fan for over 60 years, but last season didn't watch one game because of the attitude of the NFL owners - THE EMPLOYERS of the employees who were not standing for the National Anthem. Here's the game plan that should have been implemented.
1) A statement saying that it is the policy of the NFL to honor our country before every game by the playing and standing for the National Anthem. To not stand for the National Anthem therefore, disparages the NFL.
2) Every ONFIELD employee of the NFL is required to respectfully stand to honor our country for the playing of the National Anthem.
3) All employees (players) must be on the field for the National Anthem.
4) Any ONFIELD employee (players or anyone else associated with the smooth running of a games, such as referees, medical staff, etc.) not standing at attention (kneeling, squatting, etc., instead) will be fined $10,000 for the 1st offense. Suspension for one game each additional offense. All fines and lost salary will be donated to organizations that support first responder surviving families.
Wow! Wouldn't that be met by some really upset employees (players) and their union. Owners should take the attitude of - SO WHAT! WHO CARES! Owner’s should not be afraid of the employers taking them to court. Even if the courts rule AGAINST the employers (NFL owners), the public relations gleaned would be positive for the most part. It would essentially be out of the owner’s hands and in the players to assume all the negativity. As it stands now, it’s the NFL that’s constantly on the defense, which only leads to NEVER SOLVING THE ISSUE. Owners will always look the fools unless they take the bull by the horns and make it policy to stand for the National Anthem.
It just falls in line like every employer I’ve ever worked for. During my 20 years in the Navy I was required to wear a uniform. During my 20 years working for Fortune 50 Companies, I was required to wear a suit and tie (except Friday’s). It was policy for me to not disparage the Navy or the companies I was employed by. Not standing for the National Anthem disparages the NFL.

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May 24, 2018 10:55:18   #
PeterS
 
Super Dave wrote:
You're actually saying that you're ok with your employees shouting racist comments towards customers? Your customers must be entirely Democrats.

You're acting stupider than you are, which isn't a good move for an Obamabot.

The 1A protects citizens from government censorship.

1A does not allow you to scream racist anti-American Democrat Party talking-points in my house.

And you would be foolish to try.


Why would my employees spew racist remarks at my customers? And my customers are of all stripes. What I would like to know is why you would think your employees would hurl racist comments at your customers. Exactly what kind of people do you hire? 1A? Who was screaming racist anti-American Democrat talking points in your house? You do understand that people who take a knee do so without uttering a single sound and if the sight offends you then just don't look...

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May 24, 2018 11:17:07   #
bahmer
 
proud republican wrote:
Stand up or pay the price!!!!...If you want kneel during American Anthem you are gonna have to stay in a locker room during the Anthem and the team will pay dearly!!!


Not yet. There should be no price to pay but you are fired. I listen to the NFL channel regularly and I am amazed that they continually talk about football as a business. When you take a job you are expected to do a job for your employer right. I have in all my years in industry and businesses across this country yet to see a secretary or an engineer or say a welder or machinist assemblyman or any other profession take a knee in protest and get by with it. I have worked for companies and they have told me the rules and if I violate said rules I would be terminated. The owners are trying to have their cake and eat it as well. If they tell the players how it will be they are afraid the players will not perform and they could lose that season. It is the old adage that the fox is now in the chicken house and is telling the chickens that there is new sheriff in town and if you don't like it tough this is the way it will be from now on. The NFL and the owners no one wants to cut off the head of the chicken that is laying the golden eggs not Roger Goodell nor the owners none have the balls to be owners and keeping the players in line.

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May 24, 2018 11:25:36   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PeterS wrote:
Why would my employees spew racist remarks at my customers? And my customers are of all stripes. What I would like to know is why you would think your employees would hurl racist comments at your customers. Exactly what kind of people do you hire? 1A? Who was screaming racist anti-American Democrat talking points in your house? You do understand that people who take a knee do so without uttering a single sound and if the sight offends you then just don't look...
Do you or do you not allow your employees to say anything that they want, including racial slurs, to customers?

Yes or No? No? That's what I thought.

Do you think 1A allows your employee to shout racial slurs at your customers?

Yes or No? No? Of course it doesn't.


You lefties should pay me for the number of times I've schooled you on the Constitution.

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May 24, 2018 16:11:05   #
PeterS
 
Super Dave wrote:
Do you or do you not allow your employees to say anything that they want, including racial slurs, to customers?

Yes or No? No? That's what I thought.

Do you think 1A allows your employee to shout racial slurs at your customers?

Yes or No? No? Of course it doesn't.


You lefties should pay me for the number of times I've schooled you on the Constitution.

My question is why would I hire people who would hurl racial slurs? Do you not vet anyone you hire? Do you not call past employers to get an idea of their character? Do you not pay for a background check that can turn up any and all sorts of nefarious actions a prospective employee might exhibit. No, of the thousands of employees I've had work for me over the years I have never found it necessary to warn an individual not to hurl racial slurs towards those who pay their checks. That you do only exhibits what a poor businessman you truly are.

And where did you school anyone on the constitution? You can't even seem to hire anyone but racists for your company. Why don't you get over your HR problem before you try to school others on that which you have no understanding...

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May 24, 2018 16:21:02   #
PeterS
 
bahmer wrote:
Not yet. There should be no price to pay but you are fired. I listen to the NFL channel regularly and I am amazed that they continually talk about football as a business. When you take a job you are expected to do a job for your employer right. I have in all my years in industry and businesses across this country yet to see a secretary or an engineer or say a welder or machinist assemblyman or any other profession take a knee in protest and get by with it. I have worked for companies and they have told me the rules and if I violate said rules I would be terminated. The owners are trying to have their cake and eat it as well. If they tell the players how it will be they are afraid the players will not perform and they could lose that season. It is the old adage that the fox is now in the chicken house and is telling the chickens that there is new sheriff in town and if you don't like it tough this is the way it will be from now on. The NFL and the owners no one wants to cut off the head of the chicken that is laying the golden eggs not Roger Goodell nor the owners none have the balls to be owners and keeping the players in line.
Not yet. There should be no price to pay but you a... (show quote)

And why would an employer fire an assemblyman for taking a knee during the national anthem? Does nationalism aid in company productivity? How so? It's one thing for an employer to try to control speech when productivity is in jeopardy and fully another when productivity isn't impacted at all. This will be over by the end of the season or there will be some very wealthy football players from the class action suite. Had the NFL simply let it run its course no one would be talking about this now but you can bet there are players who are pissed about this and all they have to do is contact their union and they will do the rest. This is the stupidest thing the NFL has done in a long long time and is going to hurt them much more than Kaepernick ever did...

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May 24, 2018 16:23:07   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I agree, the commissioner only made this move because of all the boycotts, the NFL is losing its audience.


That's how it works in the free market. The leftists would want a new law forcing us to watch and use the NFL sponsor's goods.

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May 24, 2018 16:54:00   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
The entire point is - the NFL should not accept anything that disparages their identity, i.e., employees yelling racist remarks, spousal abuse, child porn, etc. Since the topic was the National Anthem, I only spoke about that. But the framework for all bad conduct/misbehavior is the same. Essentially, what I said can be applied for any aspect of behavior that has a disparaging affect on the image of the company.

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