working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Just because they can't vote doesn't mean they can't think about issues that matter to them. And they certainly don't need to be in school to learn how our government works. They are exposed to more information about government and how it works (or doesn't) than any generation before them. Their right to redress grievances is not limited to certain times of day or year by the Constitution. Protests don't work when they are convenient to everyone.

The reason you appear to be angry about this is because you see the rising Democratic tide, and it's not being led by DC. These kids are threatening because they will vote in 2020. They are more sophisticated than you give them credit for. They are also targeting state governments. They are organizing locally, just like the TEA parties taught them. These kids are not fighting for the Democrats, they are fighting for themselves and if you don't want them voting for the Dems, then perhaps you should give them a listen.

BTW, I thought conservatives don't like schools because students get indoctrinated, but now you want them in school?

Loki Loc: Georgia

So tell us, Kev, just HOW do you go about requiring "background checks" for private purchases? Oh, yes, only something like 3% of the guns purchases at gun shows are bought without a background check. I would like to see you provide evidence that any of them have been used to commit a crime by the purchaser.
Polls can be made to say whatever one wishes. It's all in your polling target and how you word the question. If the question were worded accurately, for instance, "Do you support banning a type of firearm of which only a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of one percent are ever used to commit a crime?" I suspect you would have a different result. Pew has an undeserved reputation for being unbiased. Sort of like Snopes.

Concerning banning sales to people on "no-fly lists" do you realize how easy it is to put someone on a no fly list? Proof is rarely required. Once on, it is almost impossible to get off. Politicians, clergymen, returning servicemen, businessmen and all sorts of people have found themselves placed on such lists by mistake. At least two Federal Agents were mistakenly placed on one such list and were refused boarding on a plane while they were transporting a Federal prisoner.

Your "nationwide database" is a violation of Federal law.

How you go about banning or confiscating the legal property of tens of millions of gun owners is an interesting question. Background checks do need to be more thorough, but requiring them for private sales is ridiculous and unenforceable. Do you really think a criminal is going to submit to a background check? The FBI's own stats show that the average gun used in a crime is a handgun that was stolen at some point and is several years old. In other words, the legal purchaser, the only person who would submit to such a check is not the one who commits a crime.

Lonewolf

They will be voters soon lol

Loki Loc: Georgia

You may be very sorry when that happens.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

[quote=working class stiff]Just because they can't vote doesn't mean they can't think about issues that matter to them. And they certainly don't need to be in school to learn how our government works. They are exposed to more information about government and how it works (or doesn't) than any generation before them. Their right to redress grievances is not limited to certain times of day or year by the Constitution. Protests don't work when they are convenient to everyone.

The reason you appear to be angry about this is because you see the rising Democratic tide, and it's not being led by DC. These kids are threatening because they will vote in 2020. They are more sophisticated than you give them credit for. They are also targeting state governments. They are organizing locally, just like the TEA parties taught them. These kids are not fighting for the Democrats, they are fighting for themselves and if you don't want them voting for the Dems, then perhaps you should give them a listen.

BTW, I thought conservatives don't like schools because students get indoctrinated, but now you want them in school?[/quo


This is what you Dems support...This is what you want us to listen??/

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/378527-tennessee-students-tear-down-american-flag-jump-on-cop-car-during-walkout

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

For all of you who support this walk out



http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/378527-tennessee-students-tear-down-american-flag-jump-on-cop-car-during-walkout

Kevyn

Require private sales be recorded with the local police or Sheriff and they do the background check on the spot. It could also be done by the DMV. Federal law can be changed to keep a national database on firearms similar to those kept on vehicles. Give a year for compliance and then make it a felony with a minimum 10 year prison sentence and lifetime ban on firearm ownership for anyone possessing an unregistered firearm. Also mandate reporting firearm theft and hold gun owners responsible for their safe storage to reduce thefts.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Proudrepublican
This is what you Dems support...This is what you want us to listen??/

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/378527-tennessee-students-tear-down-american-flag-jump-on-cop-car-during-walkout[/quote]


Yes, guilty as charged. We totally support all the worst elements you can find. The nth degree is not enough to denote the extremism we are willing to support. There are no rational folks among the Democrats.

Satisfied ?

Meanwhile, back in the real world.....

Lonewolf

since most of these shooting have been done with legally purchased weapons why do you want to punish law-abiding gun owners

Loki Loc: Georgia

Newsflash....The gun manufacturer has a record of the serial number of the firearm, and there is already a record of the original dealer to whom it is sold. Any firearms sold through an FFL dealer already have a paper trail. In case you didn't notice, the FBI says most firearms used to commit crimes are stolen. So your solution is to make a law abiding citizen a criminal for not registering a weapon. Believe it or not, it has already been established legally that criminals do not have to register their firearms since doing so would violate their 5th Amendment rights. So once more, you would stop drunk driving by revoking the licenses of non drinkers, since you are going to stop crime by punishing non criminals.
I notice you did not say a word about stiffer sentences for violent criminals. I suppose that you think they'll be deterred by the Draconian punishments you wish to inflict on people you would turn into criminals. In your mind, law-abiding gun owners, rather than murderers and armed robbers, are the real criminals.

Lonewolf

Kevyn

I am not suggesting punishing gun owners, registering your car and insisting you don’t leave the keys in the ignition is hardly punishing auto owners.

Loki Loc: Georgia

I am trying to think of a single instance where registration did not eventually lead to some sort of confiscatory policy, and I can't. Of course, that's what you really want, isn't it?
Driving is not a right enumerated in the Constitution. Self-defense is. I notice you don't advocate punishing a car owner who leaves his keys in the car when that car is stolen and used to commit a crime. As I said earlier, you have not said a word about stiffer sentencing and more rigorous enforcement of existing laws. Your entire focus is to punish law abiding gun owners. Should a real criminal or two get caught in the hoplophobic dragnet, they can probably get an early parole.

Big Kahuna

The kids I taught in middle school couldn't even put three cohesive sentences together to make 1 paragraph. I was appalled at how the educational system had become dumbed down over the years. The students nowadays are dumber than bricks and the left is now using these dumbos as their propaganda machine!! I really don't need these propagandized students trying to tell me why I don't need a gun for self protection and the media fawns all over these dull ones.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia