Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The "political reality". huh? Everything is political in your f*cked up world, if you can't politicize something, it doesn't exist. To say that those people killed in the Florida high school sacrificed their lives in defense of the 2nd Amendment is a truly despicable and dispassionate statement.

Loki Loc: Georgia

There are not many people who can fire six rounds a second with a semi-auto either. Twenty years ago, the murder rate was nearly twice as high as it is today and the weapon of choice was one of your "exempt" revolvers.

There are between 310 million and 330 million firearms in the US today. Of that number, at least 5 million are semi-auto rifles with detachable magazines. This is a very low end estimate. There are around 120 million privately owned handguns in this country. Well over half are semi-autos. There are also nearly 90 million shotguns, but most of them are not semi-auto.
So you have between 80 million (low end estimate) gun owners and 110 million gun owners (high end) in this country who own a minimum of around 75 million semi-auto firearms. If you plan on instituting a ban, you'd best get your butt in gear.
Contrary to what you may have read, the vast majority of police officers do not support bans, and the vast number of the military doesn't either.
(Note: Since Liberals are so under-represented in these two groups, your ignorance of this fact is understandable.)
You may wish to add to this the fact that the Clinton "ban" had absolutely NO effect on violent crime. None. Nada. Zip. Bupkiss. Nothing. Murders had been trending down anyway. If anything, the downward trend slowed during the period of the "ban."
How do you propose to pay for this ban? REALITY CHECK: Confiscation will not happen. A forced buyback will not happen, and even if it did, it would be a monument to non-compliance. Outside of trashing the rest of the Bill of Rights, how do you propose enforcement of this edict in an overwhelmingly hostile environment? Connecticut's abortive attempt at bans and registration resulted in massive non-compliance. If that happens in a basically anti-gun state that has a lower-than-average number of gun owners; how well do you think it might work somewhere like Georgia, or Montana, or Arkansas, or Michigan?
Where will you incarcerate all those tens of millions of non-compliant gun owners? I'll bet you have just the solution; put all of the wetbacks you love so much to work building Soviet style gulags in which to house the tens of millions of estimated arrestees. Oh, yes, and you'd better hire several hundred ultra-Liberal judges to make sure those tens of millions get properly sentenced to your newly constructed concentration camps.
What makes you think the infinitesimally small number of whack jobs who commit mass shootings will comply with any of these laws? What makes you think criminals will comply? How will you stop these crazies from obtaining weapons from these same criminals who will ignore the ban just like they did the last one, and every other attempt at restricting criminal access to guns?
You cannot ban these weapons and you cannot buy them back. Outside of trashing the Fourth Amendment and the Fifth, and the Ninth and Tenth, there is no way the government has the legal authority to enforce compliance. Banning semi-autos will be as successful as banning drugs and alcohol.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

But, but, but, you guys just don't understand.......

Peter needs guns banned, and confiscated so his beloved government can force all of his wonderful ideas on everyone.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Reiterating a lie doesn't transform it into the truth. Law enforcement and for that matter, the military overwhelmingly oppose a ban such as you are talking about. Make the penalty for exercising a right so harsh that only an idiot would want to risk owning one? Are you including the criminals who actually use these weapons to commit crimes in your little statement of unreality? Ever hear of the Eighth Amendment? How about the Fourth? The Fifth? The Ninth and Tenth? You are going to have to do a number on the entire Bill of Rights to be successful in your attempted trashing of the Second.
Another Liberal non-solution. I asked for workable solutions; that means answers that will work. You know, stuff that can be legally implemented and legally enforced without spending too much of other people's money. ( I KNOW how difficult it must be for a Liberal to propose a solution that does not involve vast amounts of someone else's bankroll).

Loki Loc: Georgia

How do you propose banning them? How will you implement this ban? How will you enforce it? What will be the penalties for non-compliance? Where will you incarcerate the millions of people who will not comply and where will you find the judges and juries to convict them? How will you pay for this? We are talking 80 million to 110 million gun owners in this country and a low end estimate of 75 million semi-autos. Rots of Ruck. The Bill of Rights would have to be suspended and/or abolished in it's entirety to accomplish what you want. But that IS what you want, isn't it?
By the way, Mr. Constitutional Scholar; The Second Amendment refers to ARMS; not firearms. In the parlance of the 18th century when the Amendment was written, "arms" meant anything used as an offensive or defensive weapon.
Speaking of which, had you bothered to research the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, (LOL who am I trying to kid?), you would have found that every year for the past ten years there have been more people killed with knives than with ALL rifles and shotguns. Every year, more people are killed with clubs than with ALL rifles and shotguns, NOT just those terrible scary looking ones. You have REALLY got your work cut out for you on that one.

Buford Loc: Arizona

Cruz hmmm was he a dreamer as well as a member of antifa ???

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Take away one gun at a time and before you know it there goes the 30/30 that's the plan if they can get the ball rolling !

If they could remove every gun in America there would still be guns available and crooks and bad guys would have a field day !

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

Nikolas Cruz is what I've seen as the spelling of his name.

There is always a lot of misinformation that is put out there after a horrific event such as this.

Yet you prefer to bring the "Christian" thing into focus.
That's fine if you actually knew what you were talking about....but, unfortunately it seems you do not.

Of gun control and evil...

Friday, February 16, 2018

Inevitably, the leftists use every crisis to shamelessly promote their agenda. Once again, the cries for gun control can be heard before the mourners are even mourning. It's disrespectful and it is without merit. How about looking at this another way? By making schools gun-free zones, and having liberal-minded and mandated programs that prevent common sense protection of our youth in schools, they are the ones who make the children easy targets of nut cases and terrorists. Where there are criminals, there will always be guns. Banning guns only disarms the law-abiding. Look at the examples. In countries where there are gun bans, there are coups; dictatorships, communism, tyranny. It goes with the territory.

Baltimore, Maryland should be the poster city for gun control. Maryland has one of the strictest gun control laws in the nation. It's one of those non-common sense laws where even law-abiding citizens who want to target practice in neighboring Virginia or Pennsylvania can properly transport their gun across state lines, but it is illegal for them to bring the guns back home. Baltimore had 343 murders last year. It's not a safe place to be. Illinois is another place where gun control is on the lips of every leftist. In Chicago, where police confiscate sometimes 600 guns a month, there are over 250 victims of shootings-a month! This is proof positive that taking guns away only emboldens those who will use them.

It is also amazing that in this day and age when someone posts on social media that they intend to do others harm, and they are reported to the FBI, that nothing is done about it. Perhaps, the FBI should get back to its original intent of crime solving and protecting the people it serves rather than trying to undermine presidential candidates and spy on people politicians seem to think are threats to their fiefdoms. Those who are critical of government officials and higher ups are put on watch lists and secret courts are asked to allow surveillance of them, but, hey, somebody threatens to do a mass attack, its just some nut case trying to get a rise out of someone. Gun control, what about doing your job?

Now all the crazies are busting on the Trump Administration for these deaths in Florida. They should be looking at their own failed policies and have an understanding why we all have the right to protect our lives. But then again, these are the same people who fight for the right to kill babies in the womb--something wrong with this picture. Life is precious. Joshua 24:15 says, "And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom you will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." Kind of simplifies things. If we choose, love and serve the Lord, we're not perfect, but we are less likely to be double-minded, mean spirited, and death-cultured like the gods others serve.

Have a Blessed and Powerful Day!

Bill Wilson - The Daily Jot

http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-124648-1.html

boatbob2

I would love that photo of cruz more,IF,there were a .30 caliber hole between his eyes,

PeterS

My bad. In terms of mass shootings we are on the same level as Somalia and other third world countries. Boy, that should make us all feel better. Now I think I'll take my 22 and go speed shoot a mall...yup...

PeterS

Yeah, only in America is the answer more guns. Think I'll go buy an uzi...BANG BANG...

PeterS

God. Who's writing your script?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Courtesy of the Crime Prevention Research Center.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Now you've done it. Haven't I told you repeatedly how Liberals hate facts?

boofhead

Singapore has a mandatory life in prison sentence for anyone who carries a gun while committing a crime. They have a death sentence penalty for anyone who fires a gun or shoots anyone while committing a crime. This has two effects: One is that the use of guns during criminal activity is reduced a lot. The second is that if a person is going to commit a crime while carrying a gun he will use it to kill everyone there so as to be sure there is no-one left to testify against him. But a variation of those laws might help do you think?