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Feb 15, 2018 02:10:49   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Let's hear it from the Liberals. You want gun control. Exactly what sort of gun control laws do you think would have prevented this tragedy, and how would you realistically implement and enforce them. Remember, I said realistically. (I reiterated because I understand that the left has cognitive trouble with that concept.)

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Feb 15, 2018 02:23:58   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Loki wrote:
Let's hear it from the Liberals. You want gun control. Exactly what sort of gun control laws do you think would have prevented this tragedy, and how would you realistically implement and enforce them. Remember, I said realistically. (I reiterated because I understand that the left has cognitive trouble with that concept.)


We never had problems like this before the new Amerika arrived on scene,this is just part of the misery too come if the NWO is allowed to survive.

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Feb 15, 2018 02:53:04   #
PeterS
 
Loki wrote:
Let's hear it from the Liberals. You want gun control. Exactly what sort of gun control laws do you think would have prevented this tragedy, and how would you realistically implement and enforce them. Remember, I said realistically. (I reiterated because I understand that the left has cognitive trouble with that concept.)

And what's the point Loki? You conservatives are terrified of government and will never give up your semi auto's. So long as you conservatives need a semi auto not to fear nothing will ever change so lets just to pray, send kind thoughts, and pretend that it does some good okay...

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Feb 15, 2018 03:11:17   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
And what's the point Loki? You conservatives are terrified of government and will never give up your semi auto's. So long as you conservatives need a semi auto not to fear nothing will ever change so lets just to pray, send kind thoughts, and pretend that it does some good okay...


At least you didn't call them "assault weapons." By the way, when none of your victims can shoot back, it doesn't matter very much whether your firearm is semi-auto or not. He could have done just as much damage nearly as quickly with an old 30/30 lever action. Wanna ban those also?
Mass shootings get a lot of publicity. Twenty-five years ago, when semi autos were not as popular, far more people were killed with plain old revolvers than are killed with semi autos today. The murder rate in this country today is about half what it was 25 years ago. In spite of 40 million more people, 100 million more guns in private hands and more than 12 million carry permits issued.
You did not answer my question; as a Hobbit Dancer, what is YOUR solution to the problem? Remember, it has to be doable and legal. No background check in the world would have stopped this little turd from acquiring a weapon, semi- auto or otherwise. Once more, in a gun free zone, it doesn't matter if you have an AR15 or a six shot revolver; no one can shoot back and a revolver can be loaded nearly as fast as a semi.

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Feb 15, 2018 04:45:20   #
PeterS
 
Loki wrote:
At least you didn't call them "assault weapons." By the way, when none of your victims can shoot back, it doesn't matter very much whether your firearm is semi-auto or not. He could have done just as much damage nearly as quickly with an old 30/30 lever action. Wanna ban those also?
Mass shootings get a lot of publicity. Twenty-five years ago, when semi autos were not as popular, far more people were killed with plain old revolvers than are killed with semi autos today. The murder rate in this country today is about half what it was 25 years ago. In spite of 40 million more people, 100 million more guns in private hands and more than 12 million carry permits issued.
You did not answer my question; as a Hobbit Dancer, what is YOUR solution to the problem? Remember, it has to be doable and legal. No background check in the world would have stopped this little turd from acquiring a weapon, semi- auto or otherwise. Once more, in a gun free zone, it doesn't matter if you have an AR15 or a six shot revolver; no one can shoot back and a revolver can be loaded nearly as fast as a semi.
At least you didn't call them "assault weapon... (show quote)

1) No, I'm not trying to take away your 30/30 and he killed 17 plus wounded 14 more; if you think a pimply faced teen could have accomplished that with a 30/30 you're not as bright as I thought. Your argument is that people would just stand around while he reloaded 5 or 6 times? Well you might have but I would have tackled his sorry ass.

2) As for being a gun free zone there were two SRO's on campus who were armed so it wasn't totally gun free plus LV and the Texas Church weren't gun free zones and that didn't stop anyone from dying. And this is the only nation on earth that isn't fighting an active war where mass murder is common place. So your solution to that is to put more guns into peoples hands? Put aside the point that more mentally ill will gain guns that way you are going to put people into the direct line of fire of the police or do you think they are going to spend time asking people if they are the good guy or the bad guy? Talk about being a Hobbit Dancer you are about ready to dance off the edge of your flat earth.

3) Limit revolver capacities to 6 shots and you can be speedy Gonzales and still not be as fast as semi auto with one 30 round mag.

4) We are't talking about the murder rate but how common place mass shooting have become with with the use of semi auto weapons.

5) You can have a carry permit for a revolver too can't you. Remember Dirty Harry and the 44 magnum? So blast away and all in keeping with your rights according to the constitution.

6) As for answering your question--I've answered it a half dozen times already why am I suppose to answer it yet one more?

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Feb 15, 2018 06:54:37   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
1) No, I'm not trying to take away your 30/30 and he killed 17 plus wounded 14 more; if you think a pimply faced teen could have accomplished that with a 30/30 you're not as bright as I thought. Your argument is that people would just stand around while he reloaded 5 or 6 times? Well you might have but I would have tackled his sorry ass.

2) As for being a gun free zone there were two SRO's on campus who were armed so it wasn't totally gun free plus LV and the Texas Church weren't gun free zones and that didn't stop anyone from dying. And this is the only nation on earth that isn't fighting an active war where mass murder is common place. So your solution to that is to put more guns into peoples hands? Put aside the point that more mentally ill will gain guns that way you are going to put people into the direct line of fire of the police or do you think they are going to spend time asking people if they are the good guy or the bad guy? Talk about being a Hobbit Dancer you are about ready to dance off the edge of your flat earth.

3) Limit revolver capacities to 6 shots and you can be speedy Gonzales and still not be as fast as semi auto with one 30 round mag.

4) We are't talking about the murder rate but how common place mass shooting have become with with the use of semi auto weapons.

5) You can have a carry permit for a revolver too can't you. Remember Dirty Harry and the 44 magnum? So blast away and all in keeping with your rights according to the constitution.

6) As for answering your question--I've answered it a half dozen times already why am I suppose to answer it yet one more?
1) No, I'm not trying to take away your 30/30 and ... (show quote)


A double action revolver is technically also a semi auto. I guess those need to go too.

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Feb 15, 2018 07:52:13   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
PeterS wrote:
And what's the point Loki? You conservatives are terrified of government and will never give up your semi auto's. So long as you conservatives need a semi auto not to fear nothing will ever change so lets just to pray, send kind thoughts, and pretend that it does some good okay...



Florida High School gunman Nicholas de Jesus Cruz, registered democrat, is an ANTIFA Supporter and member of many “Resistance” Groups on Facebook.
Why has AntiFa not been labeled a terrorist organization yet??
The mainstream liberal media will surely try to hide this fact and not honestly report on it.

One of your peeps Peetee?



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Feb 15, 2018 08:09:05   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Loki wrote:
Let's hear it from the Liberals. You want gun control. Exactly what sort of gun control laws do you think would have prevented this tragedy, and how would you realistically implement and enforce them. Remember, I said realistically. (I reiterated because I understand that the left has cognitive trouble with that concept.)


Horrific it is!!!

They need to stop giving such mass media attention to things such as this, it just feeds more of it for the one looking to make the news..

Report it and then shut it down...

Guns are needed in this vicious society developing...A terrible truth but true nonetheless..Teachers can carry in some states and they need to makee it all states!!

My prayers and condolences to the families of the victims of the terrible Florida shooting..

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Feb 15, 2018 08:22:28   #
PeterS
 
archie bunker wrote:
A double action revolver is technically also a semi auto. I guess those need to go too.


We've already been over it. Revolvers would be exempt....

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Feb 15, 2018 08:23:40   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
PeterS wrote:
1) No, I'm not trying to take away your 30/30 and he killed 17 plus wounded 14 more; if you think a pimply faced teen could have accomplished that with a 30/30 you're not as bright as I thought. Your argument is that people would just stand around while he reloaded 5 or 6 times? Well you might have but I would have tackled his sorry ass.

2) As for being a gun free zone there were two SRO's on campus who were armed so it wasn't totally gun free plus LV and the Texas Church weren't gun free zones and that didn't stop anyone from dying. And this is the only nation on earth that isn't fighting an active war where mass murder is common place. So your solution to that is to put more guns into peoples hands? Put aside the point that more mentally ill will gain guns that way you are going to put people into the direct line of fire of the police or do you think they are going to spend time asking people if they are the good guy or the bad guy? Talk about being a Hobbit Dancer you are about ready to dance off the edge of your flat earth.

3) Limit revolver capacities to 6 shots and you can be speedy Gonzales and still not be as fast as semi auto with one 30 round mag.

4) We are't talking about the murder rate but how common place mass shooting have become with with the use of semi auto weapons.

5) You can have a carry permit for a revolver too can't you. Remember Dirty Harry and the 44 magnum? So blast away and all in keeping with your rights according to the constitution.

6) As for answering your question--I've answered it a half dozen times already why am I suppose to answer it yet one more?
1) No, I'm not trying to take away your 30/30 and ... (show quote)


Seems like the shooter was another democrat, what should we do petey, exterminate the party?

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Feb 15, 2018 08:28:16   #
PeterS
 
bdamage wrote:
Florida High School gunman Nicholas de Jesus Cruz, registered democrat, is an ANTIFA Supporter and member of many “Resistance” Groups on Facebook.
Why has AntiFa not been labeled a terrorist organization yet??
The mainstream liberal media will surely try to hide this fact and not honestly report on it.

One of your peeps Peetee?


Gosh BD, what would prompt a good Christian like you to spread lies about someone? Could it be that your Christian part just a very sad front? Yup....

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/breaking-dont-let-maga-hat-fool-hispanic-shooter-nicolas-de-jesus-cruz-registered-democrat/

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Feb 15, 2018 08:32:36   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
1) No, I'm not trying to take away your 30/30 and he killed 17 plus wounded 14 more; if you think a pimply faced teen could have accomplished that with a 30/30 you're not as bright as I thought. Your argument is that people would just stand around while he reloaded 5 or 6 times? Well you might have but I would have tackled his sorry ass.

2) As for being a gun free zone there were two SRO's on campus who were armed so it wasn't totally gun free plus LV and the Texas Church weren't gun free zones and that didn't stop anyone from dying. And this is the only nation on earth that isn't fighting an active war where mass murder is common place. So your solution to that is to put more guns into peoples hands? Put aside the point that more mentally ill will gain guns that way you are going to put people into the direct line of fire of the police or do you think they are going to spend time asking people if they are the good guy or the bad guy? Talk about being a Hobbit Dancer you are about ready to dance off the edge of your flat earth.

3) Limit revolver capacities to 6 shots and you can be speedy Gonzales and still not be as fast as semi auto with one 30 round mag.

4) We are't talking about the murder rate but how common place mass shooting have become with with the use of semi auto weapons.

5) You can have a carry permit for a revolver too can't you. Remember Dirty Harry and the 44 magnum? So blast away and all in keeping with your rights according to the constitution.

6) As for answering your question--I've answered it a half dozen times already why am I suppose to answer it yet one more?
1) No, I'm not trying to take away your 30/30 and ... (show quote)


You have not answered it at all. I said realistic, workable solutions, and a description of how you would implement and enforce them. All you have done is rehash the Liberal catchall answer to gun crimes....disarm honest people and somehow criminals will get religion.
A couple more things; a revolver with a speed loader can be reloaded nearly has fast as a semi-auto handgun. As far as you "tackling" a shooter while he reloads, don't be ridiculous. You would either be laying on the floor screaming for help while you crapped your pants or running as fast as your spavined legs would carry you.
By the way, we ARE talking about the murder rate. It has gone down by 50% give or take in the last 25 years. Mandalay Bay was a gun free zone. You never answered the question about how one of your gun control laws would have stopped that little turd in Florida from acquiring a firearm. He was too young to purchase one. Where did he get it? The Columbine and Sandy Hook shooters both used stolen weapons, the Aurora shooter bought his legally, the Ft Hood Shooter stole his from Army inventory, the San Bernandino shooters used a straw man, already against Federal law, the list goes on. Tell me how you will get rid of tens of millions of semi-auto firearms, when only a tiny fraction of one percent of them are ever used to commit a crime, and a far greater number are used to prevent crimes?

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Feb 15, 2018 08:35:06   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
We've already been over it. Revolvers would be exempt....


I bet you I can reload one of my revolvers faster than you can reload a semi auto.

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Feb 15, 2018 08:35:52   #
PeterS
 
2wheeljunkie wrote:
Seems like the shooter was another democrat, what should we do petey, exterminate the party?

Plugged into fake news. Must be nice--they always say things you already believe...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/breaking-dont-let-maga-hat-fool-hispanic-shooter-nicolas-de-jesus-cruz-registered-democrat/

https://heavy.com/news/2018/02/nikolas-cruz-maga-nikolaus-trump-politics-democrat-republican/

Nikolas Cruz’s Instagram Profile Contains Trump MAGA Hat



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Feb 15, 2018 08:37:31   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
PeterS wrote:

Totally fake, give it up

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