PeterS

What's the point? The only thing you conservatives want are more guns and no argument will satisfy you unless it's that. As for how you would get rid of them simply make the penalty harsh enough that only an idiot would want to risk keeping them. Law enforcement doesn't want semi auto's out there so I don't think enforcement on that end will be that difficult. And yes, initially semi autos will still be in ready supply but eventually they will be seized, destroyed, and scarcity will dictate will eventually render them no threat...

But I've already been over this haven't I so again, what exactly is the point

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Reading through the posts I see it was turned into registered democrats are the mass killers.--Another way to get beside the point. .I expect nothing that works will ever happen.
When a mass shooting happens in the halls of congress or in the Senates chambers maybe then something will come about.Meanwhile I'll continue to fill my gun safe with more guns and ammo.

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

The real problem isn't about guns, there has been a systemic poisoning of society going on for years, liberalism and all it represents is a poison pill. Trying to remove guns will solve nothing when you have the likes of obummer, pelosi, waters, schumer and the rest of the scum in DC pushing their OFA agenda. Hollyweird and the media are to blame also. Their goal is to remove firearms, period. I don't believe for a second they are concerned about the welfare of the citizens, only the demise of resistance.

Kevyn

Computerized records of firearms as we do with automobiles so that when someone like the shooter is confined to a mental hospital they could notify police and courts so they can proceed with a warrant to disarm the patient. Restriction of high capacity magazines or even firearms with detachable magazines. If the assault weapon ban was still in place this guy would not have had access to the 30 round mags perhaps if all he could get was a 5 or ten round magazine he would have been rushed while reloading lessening the carnage.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Let us salute the brave school children who once again died to protect our second amendment rights

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

You can be proven wrong on every point you've made. When I was a pimply faced 12 year old, I carried a Winchester Model 94 30-30 lever action on every trip into the wilderness. With 8 rounds in the magazine and fast feeding load tubes, I can guarantee that a room full of unarmed people would not have a chance. I have owned many revolvers in my day, and I can guarantee that a gunslinger trained with speed loaders can fire 6 rounds and reload in the blink of an eye. One of the best set a world record of 12 shots from a six-shooter in 2.99 seconds. Wanna watch him do it?

How about 6 rounds fired in ONE SECOND?

Before semi-auto handguns became the preferred sidearm, police carried revolvers with a supply of speed loaders. It doesn't take weeks or months of training to become proficient in speed loading a revolver. And the myth of high capacity mags in semi autos is bogus also. For example, with a little time at the range, a gunslinger can become proficient at speed loading an AR15. In a few hours of training, a shooter can load and fire three 10 round magazines nearly as fast as he can empty one 30 round mag.

By the way, the reason semi-autos are common in not only mass shootings but in street crimes is because semi-autos are the most popular and plentiful firearm in the world.

Lose the political hype, Pete, face reality. Gun control is not the solution, never has and never will cure the sickness.

Loki Loc: Georgia

You are like a couple of other posters here who have no real life experience. You know all sorts of things that just ain't so. Most mass shootings occur in gun free zones so "high capacity magazines" are not a factor. You can change out a ten round mag as quickly as a 30, and carry a couple more of them. Why would he rush to reload when no one could shoot back? Might. Maybe.
If you are confined to a mental hospital there is a record. It is entered into the NCIC database. I have a better idea. Insist that the BATFE either do it's job or be disbanded. In 2013 there were more than 76,000 stops on firearms purchases, due to the instant check the NRA supported. Less than 100 of these were prosecuted, and less than 30 convictions obtained. I suppose the BATFE was so busy running guns to Mexican dope cartels they plumb forgot to prosecute these cases. The Federal Agency tasked with enforcing firearms laws commits worse crimes than it prosecutes. Your answer is to pass more laws that these clueless junior woodchucks won't enforce.
High capacity magazines is another Liberal catchphrase like the mythical semi-automatic assault rifle. Newsflash: Every year for the past ten years there have been more people killed with knives than with ALL rifles and shotguns, not just the scary looking ones. Same goes for clubs.
By the way, when the "assault weapon look-alike ban" was in place there were millions of "high capacity magazines" for sale. The prices were slightly higher. The murder rate was unaffected. It started going down after the ban was lifted, and carry permits began being issued.
Today, there are 40 million more people in this country, more than 100 million more firearms in private hands and 12 million carry permits issued as opposed to 20 years ago, and the murder rate is just about half what it was when your ban was in effect and concealed carry permits were rare.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Oh man, now there is a cold hearted and brutally repulsive statement if ever there was one. Colder than ice.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Tom, how would you realistically provide an answer? You cannot ban a rifle that several million people own. They will not stand for it. If you check the FBI statistics (I did) you will find that every year for the past 10 years more people have been killed by knives than by ALL rifles and shotguns, not just the scary looking ones. This school shooting was horrific, but there is not a single gun control law or proposed law that would have prevented it. None. The Mandalay Bay shooting resulted in an attempt to ban "bump stocks;" but anti-gunners, greedy as always, tried to load up a simple proposal with a bunch of unacceptable extras that would have made most basic gunsmithing illegal. There are more than 300 million firearms in this country. You cannot ban them, and you cannot stop criminals from obtaining them. I have not seen a single gun control proposal by the left that would do anything more than disarm and inconvenience people who are not going to commit crimes in the first place, even if there were no laws.

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

You are a jackass of unparalleled mental deficiency.

PeterS

You've convinced me. Lets ban 3030's too. Keep it up. You're the one who wants guns not me...

PeterS

Why can't you ban semi autos? What are you guys going to do--join the land of the nut jobs and commit mass murder? The constitution gives you a right to own guns. No where does it specify they type of gun you can own. And yes there are 300 million firearms but not owned by 300 million people nor are there 300 million faux semi auto assault rifes. If you truly cherish you second amendment right then you need to stop conveniently sweeping all the bodies underneath the rug just because you don't like the solutions being given because eventually the public outcry will be more than you cons will be able to stop even with your pretend assault rifes equipped with bump stocks...

PeterS

No, the cold hearted statement is that nothing can be done--Tom's just recognized the political reality--let's pray and send warm and fuzzy thoughts; that makes everything okay...

PeterS

Face reality? You think the exception is the rule! So what if someone can fire 6 rounds in a second that's not what most people are or will be capable of. And we are the only nation on earth where such a sickness prevails. If gun control doesn't work why is that the case?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

There was a mass shooting in a Florida High School the other day. 17 people were killed. Not a single gun control law on the books prevented that tragedy. Or any of the previous ones.

FYI: shooters who can speed load a revolver are anything but an exception to the rule. Miculek is a champion, but learning to speed load a revolver is not rocket science. Anyone proficient with such a firearm can nail the speed loading routine with a little practice.

BTW: I know you really want to believe the hype that America is the only sick nation on earth, but that is a lie. It might surprise you to know that the United States is 58th on the list of nations with the highest murder rates. Brazil, Honduras, El Salvador and Venezuela are vying for the top spot with around 90 murders per 100,000 citizens. The US is at 4.8 per 100,000.

It might also surprise you to know that the 10 countries most at risk for mass murders are:
1. Somalia
2. Sudan
3. Syria
4. Democratic Republic of the Congo
5. Afghanistan
6. Iraq
7. Pakistan
8. Myanmar
9. Ethiopia
10. Yemen

This tally comes from the British non-profit Minority Rights Group and documents killings with with all types of weapons, not just guns.

From the Crime Prevention Research Center, Here is the tally of Mass shootings in Europe (EU) and the US compared.