Morgan

Thank you also for another thoughtful and productive response. I'm also not a liberal, but you have shown me you're incapable of making these finite differences.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

I'm on board with the mental health for sure. Also, enforce the law. Quit trying not to hurt anyone's feelings, and hold people accountable for their actions. Including the politicians, and law enforcement.
And self defence training is great, but it's kind of hard to snatch a gun from someone standing 30 feet away, and shooting at you.

Morgan

You see I completely agree with you, people should be accountable 100%. But we do need to get to them before they take up arms, that's the tricky part. I am for a red flag in the system if someone has been on mind-altering/adjusting medications.

A home invasion, I guessed can be based also on how much of a deep sleeper are you? I think teaching self-defense in the schools would be fantastic, maybe it would keep them off the damn video killing games, into physical fitness and not the false pretense of guns solving anything. To wound and not kill unless absolutely necessary.

something you might enjoy if you haven't heard it yet

http://youtu.be/Q-KsToawMJE

archie bunker Loc: Texas

We're finally getting somewhere here. But how to implement a system that flags people who are prescribed those meds is a different story altogether. I, personally know people who have taken some of those drugs, and chose to get off of them because of the side effects. That's a tough one to figure out.
As for sound sleeping, not very. But I work at night, and sleep when I can during the day.
My wife is here alone except for the dogs while I'm gone. I prefer her to have every means legally available to stop any home invader. That means guns. And she has what she needs, close to hand just in case.
It sucks that I have to think rhat way, but that is the world we live in now.

And I liked the song. I passed it to my wife. She'll like it too. She's a lot nicer than me.

Morgan

I understand, let me ask you this, does that include a semi-automatic?

Glad you and she liked the song, I tend to think aside from politics I think a lot of people feel that way, if we could just get back to embracing fellow Americans once again. On the battlefield isn't the guy next to you your brother? Lets go with that.

...I bet she is

archie bunker Loc: Texas

It includes two semi auto handguns, two revolvers, and a 12 gauge pump shotgun. As well as two dogs for warning, and two panic buttons for the security system.
I realize this may sound extreme, but if I can't be here to physically protect her myself, it's my duty to make sure she has every tool at her disposal to protect herself.
Once our bulldog pup is grown, and trained to protect, I may lighten up on the armament a bit since we lost a dog a few weeks back who would have given her life to protect my wife. My old Kelpie still has it in him, but he's just too old, and stove up to be very effective anymore.
She's going by the shelter today to check out a yearling German Shepard, so we may have another one soon. Out here in the sticks, dogs are the first line of defense against thieving meth heads. And we have em here, and there.

Morgan

Agreed there's nothing like a loyal dog, love Shepards, had one once, she was beautiful but aside from that one time I was driving her to the beach, she was in the back, I was taking a nice ride with the sunroof open, she sat quietly I about forgot she was there. I stopped for gas, this was when we still had gas attendants, remember those lol, anyway he filled and I went to give him my card he came too close to the car and she leaped her head and front out of the sunroof pushed me into the steering wheel and went full on, poor guy jumped backwards and almost fell down, I yelled over barking to sit down and she did, but I was as surprised as the poor gas attendant. Of course, I apologized and he was actually very understanding. I had never seen her like that before, being at home she always had a very good sense of us not being threatened. In that instance I don't think she knew, I was thankful though that she was so obedient, some dogs are not. German Shepards are good dogs, they do need socializing so not to be overprotective, you've got to be the boss.

Best dog I've ever had was a mix of a Lab and Rottweiler, my lab with the neighbor's dog, accidents happen, ironically she was the one and the only pup, never heard of that before...? But she was great, unbelievably loyal, whenever Id go away she would stay outside and stand out the border of the property waiting for me to come home, would sleep under the house. I found this out from my husband who was home and told me she wouldn't come in until I came home, I still miss her.

I think I've mentioned I live in a rural area also, there was a snake right near the front door, she held it at bay and when I came out of the front door her excited face spoke to me, asking me "do I get the snake" I simply said get the snake and she grabbed it and literally banged it around until it was dead I didn't even know a dog could do that until then.

I understand you wanting to feel sure your wife is protected, but we(the average person) can really only handle one weapon at a time. My feeling is I would put myself in a good position for surprise, shoot straight and pray it's not someone I shouldn't be shooting.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Ahh, the dogs....we've always had them. My wife had a Chow when we married who would scare the crap out of people who didn't know him. He was extremely vocal, and sounded mean as hell, but he was a big ole baby unless a stranger pushed him. Then it was game on. I had a yellow Lab who was the best baby sitter any man could ask for. If I was inside, and the kids were outside doing something she thought was sketchy, she would come get me. We've had a few others over the years that have stood out, and every one hurt when we lost them. I keep saying no more, but keep doing it anyway. My Kelpie, Gus will be 13 in may, and he's declining as I watch, and I can't hardly stand it. And, yes he's mine! He went everywhere I went for the first probably 7 years of his life, and has been defending this piece of dirt since he learned to bark. He's down in his back, has cateracts, can't hear so good anymore, and is pretty much a grumpy old man anymore. He is going to be another tough one to lose. We have 4 buried out in the yard who were put down because of age. He'll make 5. I don't even want to think about that day.

Now we have this bulldog pup. He's 1/2 American bulldog, 1/2 Pitbull, and he's an absolute hoot! He's 7 months old, house broke, knows all of his basic commands, amazing with other dogs, and the littles (kids, grandkids) and growing like a weed! He tripped the scales at 67ish pounds last week when I took him by the vets office to get his heartworm stuff. He's gonna be a big one! We love coming home to see him sitting behind the gate all squinty eyed, looking all gruff. My wife calls him Earnest T. Angry when he gives us that look. I feel confident that he'll make a good protector for us, and the littles.

As far as the guns go, they are in different places in the house so she can get to one right away if need be. She can only use one at a time if one is available. She doesn't wander around the house at night, but she's up early in the morning, and all over the place, so......
Hell, I just looked a bit ago, and my bed is made! I attempt to sleep in the far bedroom with blackout curtains as far away from noise as I can get.
And when we have littles here, all guns are unloaded, and locked up, so that's no worry.

Morgan

WOW pit dog and bulldog, he must be or will be a beast. One thing that has scared me was a vicious dog, funny story, when I was around 13 me and a friend of mine went for a walk down a dirt road, next to the woods, when a dog came blasting out at us and pinned us against a fence, my friend passed me by and went behind me and used me as a human shield LOL. This dog barked and was foaming at the mouth... then decided to let us go, as soon as he headed for the house she and I ran, the dog turns and takes off after us, well we climbed a tree so damn fast your head would spin. LOL After the dog finally left the two of us looked at each other wondering how the hell did we get up here because as we looked down the tree was encased in thorny brambles! Man did it hurt getting down and out of there.

What was the verdict, did you get the Shepard? Hope you did.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Lololol, yup you got your mini arsenal and I know your beautiful wife hasnt read this or she would have made you put in she’s no coward and could take out anyone trying to harm you or her .... lololol .. I may just tell her... hehe

Run for the hills, Dear~~~

Did you get the German Shepard?? Orif not then when, cuz its coming, no doubt...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Self defense training is also key to even carrying..

Take a look at what Florida is doing after just turning down a bill to eliminate bump guns and AR-15s..

EXCLUSIVE — FL House Speaker Richard Corcoran: Florida Will Introduce ‘Marshal Program’ to Arm and Train Teachers as ’Sworn Law Enforcement .....

Republican state legislators in Florida are proposing a statewide marshal program to train and arm school personnel to defend students and staffers, said Richard Corcoran, the Speaker of Florida’s House of Representatives, in a Monday interview on SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight with co-hosts Rebecca Mansour and Joel Pollak.
Corcoran, a Republican from Florida’s Pasco County, explained that this Florida school safety legislation will be “the strongest, most robust,” and “first of its kind” in the nation to come “crashing against the gates of the insanity of gun-free zones.”

“We call it the marshal program,” said Corcoran. “These individuals would be sworn law enforcement. They’d have 132 hours of training — more training relating to guns, relating to active shooters, relating to defensive tactics than sworn law enforcement officers. And they can also be certified teachers in the classroom, and then they’re now marshals, and now we can have as many marshals as who want to volunteer, and they would get bonuses for that participation. We’d have them in every single school throughout our entire state.”

Corcoran noted the President Trump’s support of such a school safety plan.

“President Trump’s been very vocal about having an exact same description of the system that we’re talking about with sworn law enforcement officers,” said Corcoran. “Once you do that, as the president says, those cowards aren’t coming in. Even if they do somehow get through, they’re going to get executed real fast when they get to stare down a marshal that’s armed and can defend those children.”

On Monday, Florida Gov. Rick Scott expressed support for “hardening” security in response to an inquiry about arming teachers to defend schools..<snip> plenty more to the article..

I also read about a bill being drafted to eliminate “ gun free school zones and military zone “ legislation..The miliitary one I never understood and am glad to see it has been relaxed for our soldiers risking their lives!!!
Ill pull it and post it too..

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Here's the other I read earlier today..I really like the part that would allow concealed and carry into other states as long as they allowed conceal n carry in their state..

Bill that would ease gun-carrying rights in schools passed House in December....~~~ Here we go~~

By Louis Jacobson on Thursday, February 15th, 2018 at 12:30 p.m.

During the 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump pledged to eliminate gun-free zones at schools and military bases.

One thing we should clarify right off the bat: The Pentagon actually eased rules for carrying guns on military bases before President Barack Obama left office.

A Defense Department directive released on Nov. 18, 2016, said that commanders "may grant permission to (Defense Department) personnel requesting to carry a privately owned firearm (concealed or open carry) on DoD property for a personal protection purpose not related to performance of an official duty or status."

That doesn't go quite as far as Trump suggested, but it still represented a significant easing of the rules. However, since it occurred before Trump took office, we'll primarily rate this promise based on any changes during Trump's presidency that affect gun free zones in schools.

As we noted in our previous update, there have been some legislative efforts in this area.

Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., introduced a bill, the Safe Students Act, in the House to repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990, on Jan. 3, 2017.

Nine days later, the House referred the bill to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, and Investigations. However, there have been no further developments on the bill since then. More strikingly, the bill has garnered only a total of five cosponsors in the succeeding year, all of them Republicans. In fact, no lawmaker has signed on as a cosponsor since early February 2017.

A more successful legislative push came from the the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017.

The headline provision of the bill would to allow qualified individuals to carry a concealed handgun into, or possess a concealed handgun in, another state as long as that state allows individuals to carry concealed firearms....

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1356/eliminate-gun-free-zones-schools-and-military-base/

archie bunker Loc: Texas

My daughter and her friend had a similar experience with a huge Rottweiler that some people out here allowed to run loose. Fortunately another neighbor happened along, and got them in his truck before the dog got them. That dog was later killed by another neighbor for killing six sheep.
And the Shepard is tagged pending adoption. Well know in a few days. The people have to cover the fee, and have their place inspected to make sure they are able to keep her, and if they have other dogs, they have to get along.

I have to give kudos to the City of Amarillo for the way they've changed up the dog pound. They work with shelters, and organizations across the country to find places for the dogs now. They used to keep them for three days, and kill them.
If we don't get her, we'll know when the right one comes along.

Morgan

Yes with dogs comes responsibility. When my son had his seventh birthday he got a new two-wheeler, he drove it down our street and was attacked on his bike, the dog was on a leash but pulled away from the owner and attacked him, he bit him in his side through his shirt. We had two choices to make sure the dog didn't carry rabies, (she never had shots) to put down the dog and have her brain tested, or have my son take the anti-rabies shots. Which are big, painful and very expensive. We were told they could be anywhere from 2,500. to 10,000. That if we didn't have our son get the shot by the third day they are instructed to report us to social services. yeah...
I wanted them immediately since he was so small and a virus like that can go through a child much faster, rabies is also a horrible way to die. It was a frightening thought. It wound up costing us over the 10,000. dollars. We had to sue the dog owner an only received less than half of it back. My son is fine and that's all that matters, and he still loves dogs too. Once we had 18 puppies!


You have a good attitude, if it's meant to be... I hope it all works out for the best.

Morgan

We have a shelter, they don't kill them unless they are diseased, that's where we go our kitty. Seems like they always know you've saved them.