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May 12, 2017 21:13:40   #
Nickolai
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
It is documented, that nearly half of NOAA sea temperature monitors are inoperable. Inoperable? And yet data NOAA used in their latest report rely ed on using the incomplete data, but sold it as complete.




https://youtu.be/GDY80PvWA20

Try the truth

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May 12, 2017 21:14:43   #
Nickolai
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
I love the idea of global warming and rising ocean levels. We have the possibility of the flooding of the west coast and east coast. Unfortunately, it would also inundate the east coast from about Virginia south. But think of what we could be rid of. Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, San Francisco, New York, the Cuomos, Andrea Mitchell, MSNBC, what's left of the Kennedys, etc. I rub my hands in glee.








Every body that doesn't think like you huh ?

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May 12, 2017 21:19:05   #
Nickolai
 
Super Dave wrote:
then we could just build a wall around Houston in Chicago and the other liberal enclaves and put the survivors from the West and East Coasts there.







https://youtu.be/COdXq2IAxj4

The bad news

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May 12, 2017 22:00:13   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Nickolai wrote:
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Over the last 35 years the sun has shown a cooling trend. However global temperatures continue to increase. If the sun's energy is decreasing while the Earth is warming, then the sun can't be the main control of the temperature.
Figure 1 shows the trend in global temperature compared to changes in the amount of solar energy that hits the Earth. The sun's energy fluctuates on a cycle that's about 11 years long. The energy changes by about 0.1% on each cycle. If the Earth's temperature was controlled mainly by the sun, then it should have cooled between 2000 and 2008. 


The solar fluctuations since 1870 have contributed a maximum of 0.1 °C to temperature changes. In recent times the biggest solar fluctuation happened around 1960. But the fastest global warming started in 1980.
Figure 2 shows how much different factors have contributed recent warming. It compares the contributions from the sun, volcanoes, El Niño and greenhouse gases. The sun adds 0.02 to 0.1 °C. Volcanoes cool the Earth by 0.1-0.2 °C. Natural variability (like El Niño) heats or cools by about 0.1-0.2 °C. Greenhouse gases have heated the climate by over 0.8 °C
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Stop your uninformed nonsense. You are spotlighting your ignorance.

We do not receive heat from the sun. Space itself is.cold on the order of -450F.

We receive energy from the sun and it is the interaction of that energy with our atmosphere, water, land, etc that creates the heat.

As far as the sun cooling, it goes through cycles just as earth does. There are always.spots hotter and cooler on the surface of the sun. Now look up solar prominence activity and come back then.

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May 12, 2017 22:03:00   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Nickolai wrote:
God doesn't do shit he has spent the last four and a half billion years ignoring his creation and the world he crested every thing I nit needs to kill something else and eat it to survive


Another facet to your ignorance is atheism.

You are one sorry critter.

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May 12, 2017 22:03:57   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Nickolai wrote:
Nasa wasn't in existence in 1880's but measurements were taken from weather stations since the 188o's and considered to be reasonably accurate


You are just too dumb.

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May 12, 2017 23:14:45   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
vettelover wrote:
And there is not a damn thing you can do about it!

It has nothing to do with man made anything and everything to do with natural cyclical events and solar output. Your man-made global cooling/global warming and the now expedient cover your ass either way the weather goes "Climate Change" is the biggest fcking bullshit scam since the Democrat crime syndicate created the fractional fiat banking system and the ponzi scam called Social Security. Wise the fck up to the crimes that are happrning around you.

Scientifically speaking, some scientist are predicting another mini ice age (Maunder Minimum) is approaching with in the next 5 years. Read and learn and stop being a liberal idiot

The age of the earth is about 4 billion years old. The last "Ice Age" was about 13,000 years ago. When considering the age of the earth, that is like LAST WEEKEND! We are propably still warming from the last ice age. Maybe even from the last Maunder Minimum that took place when our country was founded. Did you ever once consider the real truth? Have you ever followed the money concerning this giant fcking lie? Who benefits and who doesnt?
And there is not a damn thing you can do about it!... (show quote)


Last weekend? More like 5 min. ago.....

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May 13, 2017 00:01:10   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
vettelover wrote:
And there is not a damn thing you can do about it!

It has nothing to do with man made anything and everything to do with natural cyclical events and solar output. Your man-made global cooling/global warming and the now expedient cover your ass either way the weather goes "Climate Change" is the biggest fcking bullshit scam since the Democrat crime syndicate created the fractional fiat banking system and the ponzi scam called Social Security. Wise the fck up to the crimes that are happrning around you.

Scientifically speaking, some scientist are predicting another mini ice age (Maunder Minimum) is approaching with in the next 5 years. Read and learn and stop being a liberal idiot

The age of the earth is about 4 billion years old. The last "Ice Age" was about 13,000 years ago. When considering the age of the earth, that is like LAST WEEKEND! We are propably still warming from the last ice age. Maybe even from the last Maunder Minimum that took place when our country was founded. Did you ever once consider the real truth? Have you ever followed the money concerning this giant fcking lie? Who benefits and who doesnt?
And there is not a damn thing you can do about it!... (show quote)


Check me if I'm wrong but aren't a whole lot of people not seeing the forest?

Warming, warming. The left is concerned with warming. According to the geological record we go through periods of warming with increased CO2 atmospheric concentrations, then cooling during which CO2 declines. The record shows the higest CO2 levels at the beginning of each ice age and the lowest at the beginning of each warming cycle.

This isn't my field but I'm pretty sure that if, and I say IF, we are experiencing an increase in atmospheric CO2, it.heralds an approaching ice age. And that is what science says is coming.

Wouldn't you think our science minded libprogs would be concerned about that? I wonder, after the winter they just had, if there are any north east coast liberals who buy into global warming.

Oh, I forgot. The warming has morphed into CC, except for CA residents who are still crying about crops burning in the fields.

Still, I see no libs addressing the coming ice age. Hmmm?

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May 13, 2017 03:13:52   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Squiddiddler wrote:
Pure Climate Skeptic


Mine has been redlining also.

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May 13, 2017 06:05:16   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Nickolai wrote:
Nasa wasn't in existence in 1880's but measurements were taken from weather stations since the 188o's and considered to be reasonably accurate

A 1.7 degrees error would be reasonably accurate given 1880 technology.

But that's not how they came up with their guess at 1880 temps. Among other ways including past innacurate weather stations they extrapolate data from ice cores and tree rings.

IOW they guess and arrive at a conclusion that gets them paid.

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May 13, 2017 09:58:00   #
Chocura750
 
2016 was the warmest year on record and the Trump operatives are trying to remove independent scientists from committees advising the government. Absolutely criminal.

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May 13, 2017 15:07:38   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Chocura750 wrote:
2016 was the warmest year on record and the Trump operatives are trying to remove independent scientists from committees advising the government. Absolutely criminal.




Pure BS, you leftist will stop at nothing to hand over tax payer money to your puppet masters.
Mountains of empirical evidence mam made warming is a fraud.
Where is your empirical evidence Trump operatives are removing independent scientists? You have none

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May 13, 2017 16:04:30   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Check me if I'm wrong but aren't a whole lot of people not seeing the forest?

Warming, warming. The left is concerned with warming. According to the geological record we go through periods of warming with increased CO2 atmospheric concentrations, then cooling during which CO2 declines. The record shows the higest CO2 levels at the beginning of each ice age and the lowest at the beginning of each warming cycle.

This isn't my field but I'm pretty sure that if, and I say IF, we are experiencing an increase in atmospheric CO2, it.heralds an approaching ice age. And that is what science says is coming.

Wouldn't you think our science minded libprogs would be concerned about that? I wonder, after the winter they just had, if there are any north east coast liberals who buy into global warming.

Oh, I forgot. The warming has morphed into CC, except for CA residents who are still crying about crops burning in the fields.

Still, I see no libs addressing the coming ice age. Hmmm?
Check me if I'm wrong but aren't a whole lot of pe... (show quote)


CO2 increases 800 or so years AFTER warming takes place and continues to go up until 800 years AFTER cooling starts. It is cyclical. 100,000 years cool or cold, glaciers covering N. America as far south as NYC in mile high ice. followed by about 18-25,000 years of warm weather, glaciers retreat all the way to the N. Pole with a few surviving alpine glaciers. On Long Island NY and all the way to NYC's central Park there is clear evidence of three separate periods o glacial activity. The religious warmists forget that CO2 held in solution as carbonic acid comes out as the waters of the oceans warm and returns into solution as climate cools. All very basic chemistry...... There is no altering it . There is NOTHING WHATEVER 5hat humanity can do that will result in climate change and it is laughable to think that tiny changes in atmospheric in a trace gas that is limited to reacting only to near infra red wavelengths of sunlight will cause climate anything .
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May 13, 2017 16:12:14   #
LiberalLulu
 
Chocura750 wrote:
I've read on the NASA web page that the temperature of the globe has increase 1.7 F° since 1880. How can anyone say that the world isn't getting warmer?.


So, that works out to 0.0124 degrees Farenheit per year. What was the rate during the Middle Age warming period, do you know?

You're being sarcastic, aren't you?

Remember the Younger Dryas Period? I didn't think so. So much anthropogenic warming in such a little time period, due to the Allerod Oscillation, which was preceded by the Older Dryas, which in turn was preceded by the Bolling Oscillation, or Oldest Dryas. And etc., etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas

You can't make this stuff up. And man wasn't even burning oil and gas, nor coal. Hmmmm....how could that happen?

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May 13, 2017 16:53:48   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
LiberalLou wrote:
So, that works out to 0.0124 degrees Farenheit per year. What was the rate during the Middle Age warming period, do you know?

You're being sarcastic, aren't you?

Remember the Younger Dryas Period? I didn't think so. So much anthropogenic warming in such a little time period, due to the Allerod Oscillation, which was preceded by the Older Dryas, which in turn was preceded by the Bolling Oscillation, or Oldest Dryas. And etc., etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas

You can't make this stuff up. And man wasn't even burning oil and gas, nor coal. Hmmmm....how could that happen?
So, that works out to 0.0124 degrees Farenheit per... (show quote)


Well, son, perhaps we should examine the Sun's energy output. And the Sun's energy cycles. How other planets alter our distance from the Sun. After all, the Monte Python Galaxy Song notes that the Sun is the source of ALL our power. Note so called fossil fuels are simply stored Sun power!

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