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Jun 2, 2017 23:03:42   #
Chocura750
 
Since the global warming deniers won't accept news reports and scientific reports, I've asked that people give the event that they would have to personally experience to admit global warming is real and serious.

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Jun 3, 2017 01:11:45   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Since the global warming deniers won't accept news reports and scientific reports, I've asked that people give the event that they would have to personally experience to admit global warming is real and serious.


How about reports from those observing the opposite?

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Jun 3, 2017 04:13:16   #
Chocura750
 
You are avoiding the question. What would you have to personally experience for you to believe global warming is real and serious? It is a simple question.

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Jun 3, 2017 06:12:51   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Chocura750 wrote:
You are avoiding the question. What would you have to personally experience for you to believe global warming is real and serious? It is a simple question.

How about..... Let's see...

Polar ice caps melting as falsely predicted by GW alarmists years ago?

That would prove it.

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Jun 3, 2017 08:58:32   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Some say He.knows our outcome. Personally, sometimes I think He is curious as to how we will work out. Either way we are living proof He has a sense of humor.


If you have any doubt that God has a sense of humor just look at the giraffe

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Jun 3, 2017 10:54:18   #
Gatsby
 
How about HONESTY!

Why has there never been a serious public debate about the "weighting fomula" of the influencing factors
which are used to create all of the theoretical computor models fortelling our fate?

You tell us that solar activity is of small consequence in climate; to put that arguement a slightly different way;
changing the thermostat won't change the temperature, only changing the amount of insulation will do that?
Your problem is that a great many people have more common sense than that.

Chocura750 wrote:
You are avoiding the question. What would you have to personally experience for you to believe global warming is real and serious? It is a simple question.

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Jun 3, 2017 12:28:22   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Chocura750 wrote:
You are avoiding the question. What would you have to personally experience for you to believe global warming is real and serious? It is a simple question.


You are avoiding becoming educated in this matter and there is no excuse. If you feel this is a crisis then long ago you should have researched deeply into it. Instead of believing what you are told you should have asked yourself questions. Looked at the so called scientists who say this nonsense is real. Checked their credentials. Read their findings. Actually counted and found that these scientists that had degrees in the proper fields who say CC is man caused, boils down to 12 out of your thousands. Virtually ALL the rest say they FEEL man is the cause but they have no evidence to confirm it.

You should be aware by now that leading scientists in the correct fields say CC is NOT caused by man.

You should by now have studied and found that increased CO2 is not a cause, that it is a SYMPTOM of a coming ice age. You should have learned that you do not predict the weather pattern of a several BILLION year old dynamic ecosystem by looking at the history of less than 150 years. You should have learned that 150 years is the flick of an eyelash to our.planet history and to base anything on such a tiny segment is akin to diagnosing heart disease from a one second EKG strip. Impossible.

You need to understand far more than you do. The total energy of.our planet comes from our sun. It is contained in every cresture, blade of grass, rock.....everything whether static (at rest) or in motion. The planet heats and cools.in direct response to the energy derived from the sun and here on earth if just shifts forms. And in any transference from one from form to another there is a net loss. That loss radiates to space and is replaced by the sun at the same time. The system therefore is DYNAMIC meaning ever changing and THAT causes heating and cooling cycles.

Now before you continue to repeat what those financially invested in CC are programming you to say,

You say solar activity is inconsequential. But middle school science knows better. If solar activity is not any factor in planetary climate, explain why planets nearer a sun are hot beyond the ability to host life, and why planets beyond a certain distance are gaseous or frozen and again unable to sustain life.

Then explain why of our solar system, only our earth contains life. It is because only earth is in the proper position relative to the sun to receive the proper amount of energy required. Not too little nor too much. Our planetary climate is driven by the SUN! Move farther away, we die. Move closer, we die!

LEARN.

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Jun 3, 2017 14:34:07   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Docadhoc wrote:
You are avoiding becoming educated in this matter and there is no excuse. If you feel this is a crisis then long ago you should have researched deeply into it. Instead of believing what you are told you should have asked yourself questions. Looked at the so called scientists who say this nonsense is real. Checked their credentials. Read their findings. Actually counted and found that these scientists that had degrees in the proper fields who say CC is man caused, boils down to 12 out of your thousands. Virtually ALL the rest say they FEEL man is the cause but they have no evidence to confirm it.

You should be aware by now that leading scientists in the correct fields say CC is NOT caused by man.

You should by now have studied and found that increased CO2 is not a cause, that it is a SYMPTOM of a coming ice age. You should have learned that you do not predict the weather pattern of a several BILLION year old dynamic ecosystem by looking at the history of less than 150 years. You should have learned that 150 years is the flick of an eyelash to our.planet history and to base anything on such a tiny segment is akin to diagnosing heart disease from a one second EKG strip. Impossible.

You need to understand far more than you do. The total energy of.our planet comes from our sun. It is contained in every cresture, blade of grass, rock.....everything whether static (at rest) or in motion. The planet heats and cools.in direct response to the energy derived from the sun and here on earth if just shifts forms. And in any transference from one from form to another there is a net loss. That loss radiates to space and is replaced by the sun at the same time. The system therefore is DYNAMIC meaning ever changing and THAT causes heating and cooling cycles.

Now before you continue to repeat what those financially invested in CC are programming you to say,

You say solar activity is inconsequential. But middle school science knows better. If solar activity is not any factor in planetary climate, explain why planets nearer a sun are hot beyond the ability to host life, and why planets beyond a certain distance are gaseous or frozen and again unable to sustain life.

Then explain why of our solar system, only our earth contains life. It is because only earth is in the proper position relative to the sun to receive the proper amount of energy required. Not too little nor too much. Our planetary climate is driven by the SUN! Move farther away, we die. Move closer, we die!

LEARN.
You are avoiding becoming educated in this matter ... (show quote)



That is asking lot from progressive who is programed to believe what ever his handlers tell him. It worked for Hitler, Stalin, Alynski and the rest of the one world progressive dictator clan, why would you expect that it would ot keep working. After all the goals of Communism have been programed into kids from the day they started watching Sesame Street, all the way through college in todays public institutions, why should you expect any different results now?

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Jun 3, 2017 21:26:17   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
no propaganda please wrote:
That is asking lot from progressive who is programed to believe what ever his handlers tell him. It worked for Hitler, Stalin, Alynski and the rest of the one world progressive dictator clan, why would you expect that it would ot keep working. After all the goals of Communism have been programed into kids from the day they started watching Sesame Street, all the way through college in todays public institutions, why should you expect any different results now?


Yes, but I have to try. If someone can't comprehend a 4th grade explanation, they go on the "hopeless" list.

For going on 3 years I have been asking, "since redistribution of wealth levels the playing field, wealthy investors will disappear causing massive job loss and placing a huge percentage of our population on welfare for lack of work", "who will do the work that makes our nation function"?

Simple question but no answers. I'm "beginning" to think that not only do liberals live in denial, they all suffer massive loss.of.common sense.

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