Abortion is a non-issue for Christians, a totally made up sham by the Moral Majority for power and influence
Apr 23, 2017 12:14:28 #
Dr.Dross wrote:
The Bible does not recognize a fetus in the first two trimesters as "someone."
Many of those future mothers probably didn't recognize their pregnancy. How could they recognize a fetus? This is a truly moronic statement - pure, unadulterated rhetoric.
Apr 23, 2017 12:17:50 #
Dr.Dross wrote:
I may have answered this already but Exodus21:22 favors first two trimester abortion, if not it would be an "eye for eye" and thus death for the offender and not just a fine was in order.
As most in this discussion are Christian, they will acknowledge "Turn the other cheek" rather than "an eye for an eye." (Please note - this is NOT "an abortion for an eye.")
Apr 23, 2017 15:56:54 #
Morgan wrote:
I agree with you Dave in everyway especially when ... (show quote)
Condoms are easy to get. They are free at public health facilities across America and cheap at a CVS.
Apr 23, 2017 16:27:30 #
Super Dave wrote:
Condoms are easy to get. They are free at public health facilities across America and cheap at a CVS.
Have you heard of "passion of the moment"? A crime by passion? A intoxicated encounter challenges the mens rea element by suggesting that there was no malice aforethought. No intent to abort if.... Yet stuff happens. There are endless books on gambling, and how many on vacation in Vegas have read them? Your argument makes no sense.
Apr 23, 2017 18:51:13 #
Dr.Dross wrote:
Have you heard of "passion of the moment"? A crime by passion? A intoxicated encounter challenges the mens rea element by suggesting that there was no malice aforethought. No intent to abort if.... Yet stuff happens. There are endless books on gambling, and how many on vacation in Vegas have read them? Your argument makes no sense.
Are you stoned?
What did​ you mean to say?
Apr 23, 2017 19:01:47 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
I thought your argument made perfect sense. I have no idea what he was saying.
Super Dave wrote:
Are you stoned?
What did​ you mean to say?
What did​ you mean to say?
Apr 23, 2017 21:04:11 #
Super Dave wrote:
Condoms are easy to get. They are free at public health facilities across America and cheap at a CVS.
Yes for decades, so then tell me what impact have they had on preventing pregnancies? We've sure had a lot of them since they've been around. Maybe we can invent some sort of implant for men, or a pill. I wonder how many men would terminate a pregnancy if they became pregnant, a laughable thought don't you think?
Apr 23, 2017 21:25:58 #
jSmitty45 wrote:
If I kill someone, I am a murderer. Regardless of ... (show quote)
Ten to twenty five percent of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. Isn't that gods hand? If you are killed by the weather isn't that god's hand? What about a traffic accident? So isn't god also the taker of life? And then there is the fact that god is suppose to be omnipotent and omniscience meaning that god would know who was going to have an abortion before he created the life--yet he created the life anyway. Did he do so thinking they might choose a different path even though he knows they won't?
As for the reason women get an abortion--as long as it's there body then I am going to leave that choice up to them. You are welcome to use government to control your body but I'm not going to give it the right to control mine.
Apr 23, 2017 21:29:23 #
Morgan wrote:
Yes for decades, so then tell me what impact have they had on preventing pregnancies? We've sure had a lot of them since they've been around. Maybe we can invent some sort of implant for men, or a pill. I wonder how many men would terminate a pregnancy if they became pregnant, a laughable thought don't you think?
Ever notice that since the advent of Plan-B the rate of abortions has gone steadily down. I'll bet Dave thinks that's because men finally decided to start using condoms...
Apr 23, 2017 21:54:27 #
PeterS wrote:
Ever notice that since the advent of Plan-B the rate of abortions has gone steadily down. I'll bet Dave thinks that's because men finally decided to start using condoms...
No doubt, and we all know even when they have them how bullet proof they are. This entire abortion issue is such political BS, I do believe our needle is permanently stuck, and we just keep playing over and over. The politicians say they're against abortion and zip, they got those voters, job done.
Apr 23, 2017 22:22:33 #
Morgan wrote:
Yes for decades, so then tell me what impact have they had on preventing pregnancies? We've sure had a lot of them since they've been around. Maybe we can invent some sort of implant for men, or a pill. I wonder how many men would terminate a pregnancy if they became pregnant, a laughable thought don't you think?
The reason giving away condoms doesn't work is in part because it's a tacit endorsement of increased sex, which has resulted in a lot of things worse than babies.
If men could have babies and women and to pay for them for 18 years, a lot of women might start insisting on condoms.
Apr 23, 2017 22:27:05 #
PeterS wrote:
Ten to twenty five percent of all pregnancies end ... (show quote)
Unborn children are separate beings, just as you just you unknowingly admitted when you said God killed them. You do realize someone has to be alive before he or she can be killed, right?
Apr 23, 2017 22:39:18 #
Morgan wrote:
No doubt, and we all know even when they have them how bullet proof they are. This entire abortion issue is such political BS, I do believe our needle is permanently stuck, and we just keep playing over and over. The politicians say they're against abortion and zip, they got those voters, job done.
If they truly cared about children it would be one thing but no sooner are they born then they want nothing to do with them. It's as if feeding a child is more then can be asked of them--I find that most confusing given the most call themselves Christians. As for politicians, Trump was pro-choice until he figured out that the only way he could be president is if he were a conservative. So do you think conservatives care or only that through him they stand the best chance of getting what they want...
Apr 23, 2017 22:40:34 #
Super Dave wrote:
Unborn children are separate beings, just as you just you unknowingly admitted when you said God killed them. You do realize someone has to be alive before he or she can be killed, right?
If they are separate beings then you should execute god for being a murder shouldn't you...
Apr 23, 2017 22:58:38 #
PeterS wrote:
If they are separate beings then you should execute god for being a murder shouldn't you...
No, you shouldn't.
Apparently you are unfamiliar with the concept of God.
It's not too late to learn.
It would do you a lot of good, not only save your soul, but elevate your life from the it's current lowly existence of a hate-monger.
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