Ve'hoe

dumb argument,,, but then most of yours are.

Ve'hoe

You missed the point,,,, Dave thinks he is God.....

Ve'hoe

So which one are you following,, when you vote to murder babies,,, and then throw all your responsibility on the woman,,, by saying "Its HER body, let her decide,,, I wash my hands!!"

How non-christian of you,,,,,, mr holier than thou

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

No, dipstick.

Read more, hate less, and you will be stupid less often.

Ve'hoe

Doesnt seem to be working for you, idiot

Ve'hoe

Sorry Dave,,, I left out the first "HE" it was supposed to read,,,,, " you missed the point,
Dave,, HE thinks HE is god,,," Speaking of Peter,,, Apologies,, misfired

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Accepted.

No prob.

Ve'hoe

Good, I am Glad........

Big Bass

Good point. That murderer gets his day in court. The fetus doesn't.

Morgan

First don't attach anything of what YOU are saying as MY choice,I've never been knocked up thank you. Those(what you speak of) are not MY choices they are the choices of others and that is my point. Each Individual Woman Who has the Right to decide to Choose. Period. It is her body period, not to grow a child, Not the Governments? Do you really want to go there? We have to do everything we can to PREVENT pregnancies, that's how we stop abortions which I'm all for.

Morgan

Well the government could force women to give birth, they could than adopt them and create an expanded military, which today would certainly include men and women. Think how easily they would be controlled. In a way that is already happening Peter, we have mini military base society's completely influenced by the military mindset. Through our tax dollars communities are built where the children have absolutely no reason to leave it, Everything is there from there grocery, stores, gym clubs, fact food places, house of worship, and schools. The children live the true military life. No necessity compels them to have to leave, unless they want to interact with the public, this is a curious intention for more compelling infrastructures, I am sure. A troubling thought in many ways, one being a threat to a free society with a militant government.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

A murderer gets the position of innocence, a trial, a lawyer, a judge, a jury, appeals, leftist anti death penalty groups, and in some states choice of execution method.

Ve'hoe

Then why cant each individual Man, choose to terminate life,, ie just kill whenever they want??? Its their choice too is in not???

And you leftists speak of women as a monolithic group with inalienable rights to choose,,, what is the difference between women killing,,, and men doing so?

If its her choice and hers alone, then why does that same Government and society FORCE the man to pay,,, without getting an equal equity in the decision?

Unless you were raped,,, the decision to get pregnant was mutual..


The leftists have also decided that with public funds we cannot do anything they object to,, like read the bible or even have a bible on display, in a public setting.... even though that is not a choice, it is a constitutional right....

Why then when Obama care funds abortions,, from public funds,,, do we have no choice??? All of the sudden,, your public funded murder is YOUR CHOICE and YOURS ALONE?

Not fair,,,

Morgan

So you don't see a difference between someone growing something in their body and not? You don't acknowledge that at all? Not sure what to say about that. Personally I don't see this as a political topic I see it as a personal one. It's certainly not about anybody killing whenever they want, do you really think this is something any woman wants to do? Do you recall the serenity poem, "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change" The baby is created in the womb of a woman, that's a fact, can't change it, not yet any way.

In an accidental pregnancy I don't believe is mutual, except possibly both not wanting it, but if the man would want to bring it up, that is still a personal decision between them working that out. I don't believe someone could force another to grow a being if they didn't want to, how could you enforce such a thing, what would be next?

I am not for anyone getting an abortion, which is why we should do everything we can to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, that should be our focus. These are the things we can change. I believe we have the technology to have abortions be a thing of the past. Abortions are not funded unless the life of the mother is at risk and there is no other choice. Obama care doesn't fund abortions, Obama care is an Insurance market place. If Medicaid funds it, I believe it is only at the risk of the mother.

Ve'hoe

I do see a difference,,,, especially when she kills it for convenience....

980000+ abortions last year,,, less than one percent for the health of the mother,,, so it is indeed a cognizant and rational choice,,,,

"choice" is what is being done,,, Not sure what we should say about that......so apparently it can be changed and is...

And it is completely a false premise that an accidental pregnancy has to end in abortion,,, there is always adoption, but women say,, I couldnt live knowing a baby of mine was out there,,,, so they KILL IT!!??!!

I killed in Iraq/Afghanistan, and it was a choice,,,, but it was between men who made the choice to be there, not innocent babies... that is a lie of the left....

Also a lie of the left is that obamacare doesnt fund abortions...

"Here’s the devastating line from the GAO report, “Among a sample of 18 insurers, ‘all but three issuers indicated that the [abortion coverage] benefit is not subject to any restrictions, limitations, or exclusions.’”
http://aclj.org/abortion/gao-bombshell-obamacare-directly-funds-abortion

If killing is your choice,,, you cannot feign caring for the child growing in you,, and if there is no child growing in a woman, then she isnt pregnant,,, in Iraq and Afghanistan, I learned "Killing is Killing" there is not a "better or more technological way"