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Abortion is a non-issue for Christians, a totally made up sham by the Moral Majority for power and influence
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Apr 20, 2017 23:50:39   #
Dr.Dross
 
America Only wrote:
Not true but nothing you have ever stated has had one shred of truth to it.

As to your bringing God into the fray....as scum bag as you are, you have proven that your mind is full of sewage. You are the poster boy for all the democraps. A Godless mindless horrid excuse for any living creature to exist.


Ah, Trailer Troll is getting his legs. Do not be hard on him, please. Sewage DNA of racists and idiots is to be expected now. But I feel that once this little troll reaches the age of Reason...nothing will change, though I have hope.

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Apr 20, 2017 23:54:00   #
Dr.Dross
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
For one thing, God is always with a capital G.
Abortion is murder anyway you look at it. It is God's right to give life or take it away. Not some stupid liberal who makes up their own rules pertaining to the right to life for an unborn child.


It is not murder according to the Bible and the Church for almost 2000 years. If God and our Church Fathers are "stupid liberals" then abortion is anyone's guess.

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Apr 20, 2017 23:57:03   #
Dr.Dross
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
Only God has the right to take a life. I pray you will come to know that God sent his son to die for you. Hopefully, he will open your eyes to the truth.


You say God only has the right to take a life: do you support Capital Punishment? Do you support drones killing innocent civilians? Do you support "carpet bombing" by our Air Force?

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Apr 21, 2017 00:00:56   #
Dr.Dross
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
I know without a doubt, he is my protector.
He has shown that to me too many times. Guns are our right to protect our homes and family. I have my ccl and if I needed to use that right ,I would do so. There has always been wars and will always be until Jesus comes again after tribulation.


For me, there have always been wars because of people like you. Jesus tried to change that view. You ignored it. Jesus will come again when people like you actually come to totally trust in his protection, and not a trusty firearm or a well-armed military,

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Apr 21, 2017 00:11:31   #
Dr.Dross
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
as usual, not true and uninformed,,alias,, an idiot...

Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

Maybe God just didnt "know you"??? now regrets allowing the two animals who made you, to not get stuck by lightning while humping in a ghetto landfill??


That says nothing about abortion. It was God's intention for this person. He may have interceded on both of us to be born and argue and not be aborted. But I would never insult your parents. Yet I fear how despicable were these words "the two animals who made you" "not get stuck by lightning while humping in a ghetto landfill" do not bother you. This is just who you are at heart. Okay.

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Apr 21, 2017 00:16:39   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
With a proviso: not in the last tri-mester. If an abortion is necessary in that period to save the life of the mother, all efforts should be extended to do so. Church ruling.

Nearly 2000 years of Church doctrine and hardly a word to say on abortion but that it was okay up to the third tri-mester. The Bible has only one--only one--direct reference to abortion, and it supports that life begins at around 27 months. Not before! Not at conception! For the Church for nearly 2 millennium life begins at around twenty-eight months. Yet over 3000 verses for social justice in the Bible are routinely ignored for the preposterous stance on abortion to be prominent among Christian concerns. As once was inter-racial marriage.

Killing a fetus prior to the 29th or thirtieth week was never considered murder by the Church since its start and up until the Moral Majority in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
With a proviso: not in the last tri-mester. If an ... (show quote)
You want to burn down Christian churches, have at it, but don't use the Word of God as a weapon against Christians. Freaking reprobate.

Psalm 139:13–16

For You formed my inward parts:
You covered me in my mother’s womb.
I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Marvelous are Your works,
And that my soul knows very well.
My frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.
And in Your book they all were written,
The days fashioned for me,
When as yet there were none of them.


Psalm 22:9-10

Yet You brought me out of the womb; You made me trust in You even at my mother's breast. From birth I was cast upon You; from my mother's womb You have been my God.

Jeremiah 1:4–5

Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying:
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;
Before you were born I sanctified you;
I ordained you a prophet to the nations.”


Exodus 21:22–24

If men fight, and hurt a woman with child, so that she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman’s husband imposes on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot ..

Job 31:15

Did not He who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same one form us both within our mothers?

Isaiah 44:2

This is what the LORD says--He who made you, who formed you in the womb, and who will help you

Isaiah 49:5

And now the LORD says--he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself, for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my strength.

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Apr 21, 2017 00:20:23   #
Dr.Dross
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Sayeth,,, Adolph hitler,,,,,



Because we know what murderous animals you lefties are,,,, mao, stalin, hitler, pol pot.... hillary.....


Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot were all authoritarian dictatorships, which are the extreme of the Right Wing. You can see the same tendencies in Trump. Liberal or socialist governments are of the people, giving them the power. Mislabeling their intents as socialistic or communistic was a political ploy and not a description of their governments. History has abundantly testified that these regimes were not what they purported. It is sophomoric to argue against this proof.

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Apr 21, 2017 00:22:12   #
Dr.Dross
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
True.


You seem like a nice person but u r clueless. A little puppet doll. Think. Research. Question. Open.

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Apr 21, 2017 00:23:34   #
Dr.Dross
 
Super Dave wrote:
Yo... News Flash.. Everyone dies. Some aborted, some not. Not all are killed by others.

Do you blame God when a 99 year old dies?


Christians do, perhaps inadvertently: "God is in control."

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Apr 21, 2017 00:25:41   #
Dr.Dross
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It has always been an inconsistent stance. When I challenge anti abortionists about their lack of concern for children AFTER they're born, they fall back to the standard dogma of " protecting the helpless/innocent ", which I counter with - how old does a child have to be before it is no longer helpless and/or when does a child lose it's innocence? They never have an answer, because they've never thought about it, at all - they're just responding as programed.


An outstanding point for which most Conservatives vote against any help for these children.

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Apr 21, 2017 00:28:05   #
Dr.Dross
 
Super Dave wrote:
Perhaps pro-abortion programming just doesn't allow the people who's party gets a piece of each dead baby to hear.

No honest person could say that a pro-life person loses concern after the birth of a child. That's both stupid and dishonest.

Its not the pro-lifers that are running the killing fields in Chicago and other Progressive enclaves.

Its no the pro-lifers that trap children in failed schools that don't teach them the skills they need to survive. And it's no the pro-lifers that run these failed schools.

Its not the pro-lifers that use welfare to remove the fathers from families in order to keep them in a subservient role.

Its not the pro-lifers who's regulations discourage companies from hiring young people to teach them how to become self-sufficient.

Its not the pro-lifers who enslave families in a cycle of welfare dependency.


The people that hate unborn children to the point that they support the sale of human body parts so that some liberal bitch can buy a Lamborghini don't have any room to speak about caring for anyone.
Perhaps pro-abortion programming just doesn't allo... (show quote)


I would address this point-by-point but all points point at pro-lifers as agents.

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Apr 21, 2017 00:32:29   #
Dr.Dross
 
America Only wrote:
Thank you so much. The truth is always what matters. These liberals are as sick as it gets. And they have shown the truth about how Godless they are. More and more people will see, the only way to deal with the issues will be to exterminate liberalism, democrats, etc.


Sorry. My poor little troll, after devouring his siblings to survive, has, well, er, um, developed a bit of an edge. I think he will get better. Docs say there is a 12% chance of a return to normalcy, but that's something, right?

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Apr 21, 2017 00:33:46   #
Dr.Dross
 
JFlorio wrote:
As Ronald Reagan said, I notice all the people for abortion have already been born.


Facts not in evidence.

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Apr 21, 2017 00:40:21   #
Dr.Dross
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
If I kill someone, I am a murderer. Regardless of whether I am protecting my life or home. I will have to face the consequences. I would have to ask God to forgive me. That shalt not murder. I would still try to protect my loved ones, as I am sure anyone else would do as well, doesn't mean I am right.
I would be extremely upset if I had to do that, but would you let someone hurt you without trying to protect yourself?
I say abortion is wrong. If you don't want that child, then either abstain or use protection. Why get pregnant just because you know you are going to abort that precious life. God is the giver of life. There are too many just getting pregnant to have the government take care of them. Look around, you will see these young women, no husband, but collecting aid for each child, food stamps. We are paying for that out of our taxes. Don't get pregnant, to begin with.
If I kill someone, I am a murderer. Regardless of ... (show quote)


The consequences in established self-defense is innocence. The consequence for gossiping and slandering and judging "these young women, no husband, but collecting aid for each child, food stamps" not out of concern for their well-being or morality but only because "We are paying for that out of our taxes" is utterly appalling. Yet that is what being Conservative and Republican is all about: money, not people.

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Apr 21, 2017 00:41:48   #
Dr.Dross
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
and I counter with "why dont you take care of the kids you produce?" and you geniuses have no answers either...


That makes zero sense.

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