Abortion is a non-issue for Christians, a totally made up sham by the Moral Majority for power and influence
Apr 20, 2017 09:55:18 #
lpnmajor wrote:
It has always been an inconsistent stance. When I challenge anti abortionists about their lack of concern for children AFTER they're born, they fall back to the standard dogma of " protecting the helpless/innocent ", which I counter with - how old does a child have to be before it is no longer helpless and/or when does a child lose it's innocence? They never have an answer, because they've never thought about it, at all - they're just responding as programed.
Perhaps pro-abortion programming just doesn't allow the people who's party gets a piece of each dead baby to hear.
No honest person could say that a pro-life person loses concern after the birth of a child. That's both stupid and dishonest.
Its not the pro-lifers that are running the killing fields in Chicago and other Progressive enclaves.
Its no the pro-lifers that trap children in failed schools that don't teach them the skills they need to survive. And it's no the pro-lifers that run these failed schools.
Its not the pro-lifers that use welfare to remove the fathers from families in order to keep them in a subservient role.
Its not the pro-lifers who's regulations discourage companies from hiring young people to teach them how to become self-sufficient.
Its not the pro-lifers who enslave families in a cycle of welfare dependency.
The people that hate unborn children to the point that they support the sale of human body parts so that some liberal bitch can buy a Lamborghini don't have any room to speak about caring for anyone.
Apr 20, 2017 10:24:43 #
Super Dave wrote:
Perhaps pro-abortion programming just doesn't allo... (show quote)
Thank you so much. The truth is always what matters. These liberals are as sick as it gets. And they have shown the truth about how Godless they are. More and more people will see, the only way to deal with the issues will be to exterminate liberalism, democrats, etc.
Apr 20, 2017 10:33:45 #
jSmitty45 wrote:
I know without a doubt, he is my protector.
He has shown that to me too many times. Guns are our right to protect our homes and family. I have my ccl and if I needed to use that right ,I would do so. There has always been wars and will always be until Jesus comes again after tribulation.
He has shown that to me too many times. Guns are our right to protect our homes and family. I have my ccl and if I needed to use that right ,I would do so. There has always been wars and will always be until Jesus comes again after tribulation.
I made the comment because you said only god had the right to take life. Clearly that's not true if you are free to kill to for protection or for war. Would you care to restate or not?
Apr 20, 2017 10:36:10 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
As Ronald Reagan said, I notice all the people for abortion have already been born.
Super Dave wrote:
Perhaps pro-abortion programming just doesn't allo... (show quote)
Apr 20, 2017 15:06:53 #
If I kill someone, I am a murderer. Regardless of whether I am protecting my life or home. I will have to face the consequences. I would have to ask God to forgive me. That shalt not murder. I would still try to protect my loved ones, as I am sure anyone else would do as well, doesn't mean I am right.
I would be extremely upset if I had to do that, but would you let someone hurt you without trying to protect yourself?
I say abortion is wrong. If you don't want that child, then either abstain or use protection. Why get pregnant just because you know you are going to abort that precious life. God is the giver of life. There are too many just getting pregnant to have the government take care of them. Look around, you will see these young women, no husband, but collecting aid for each child, food stamps. We are paying for that out of our taxes. Don't get pregnant, to begin with.
I would be extremely upset if I had to do that, but would you let someone hurt you without trying to protect yourself?
I say abortion is wrong. If you don't want that child, then either abstain or use protection. Why get pregnant just because you know you are going to abort that precious life. God is the giver of life. There are too many just getting pregnant to have the government take care of them. Look around, you will see these young women, no husband, but collecting aid for each child, food stamps. We are paying for that out of our taxes. Don't get pregnant, to begin with.
Apr 20, 2017 15:14:23 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
I see where you are going with this but your definition of murder is wrong. If you have a different definition please post. Thanks.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/murder
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/murder
jSmitty45 wrote:
If I kill someone, I am a murderer. Regardless of ... (show quote)
Apr 20, 2017 18:56:00 #
and I counter with "why dont you take care of the kids you produce?" and you geniuses have no answers either...
lpnmajor wrote:
It has always been an inconsistent stance. When I challenge anti abortionists about their lack of concern for children AFTER they're born, they fall back to the standard dogma of " protecting the helpless/innocent ", which I counter with - how old does a child have to be before it is no longer helpless and/or when does a child lose it's innocence? They never have an answer, because they've never thought about it, at all - they're just responding as programed.
Apr 20, 2017 18:57:33 #
no,,, murder is not the same as killing,, as in defense or at war.... and the bible doesnt say it is.
jSmitty45 wrote:
If I kill someone, I am a murderer. Regardless of ... (show quote)
Apr 20, 2017 19:56:48 #
Dr.Dross wrote:
With a proviso: not in the last tri-mester. If an ... (show quote)
Well, THAT makes abortion okay, then.
Apr 20, 2017 19:58:15 #
PeterS wrote:
If that's true then why are conservative Christians obsessed with guns and the need for the worlds largest military? It's not my eyes that need to be opened because if you CC's don''t trust enough in god to allow him to be your protector why on earth should anyone else follow suit?
Tether your camel, Petey.
Apr 20, 2017 20:01:19 #
PeterS wrote:
I made the comment because you said only god had the right to take life. Clearly that's not true if you are free to kill to for protection or for war. Would you care to restate or not?
You are obviously the result of the Leftist/Liberal educational dumbing down system.
Apr 20, 2017 21:12:11 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
Are you maybe cherry picking statistics? Actually if you studied the Bible which we all know you don't you wouldn't make your idiotic statements. You make them just to inflame. You are not near as clever as you think. Why would someone take the opinion of a secular, Godless moron such as yourself about God's teachings? I wouldn't try to act like I had an informed opinion about Nuclear Submarines since I know nothing about how to operate one.
https://www.verywell.com/making-sense-of-miscarriage-statistics-2371721
https://www.verywell.com/making-sense-of-miscarriage-statistics-2371721
PeterS wrote:
Twenty five percent of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. That make's god the biggest mass murderer of them all. And just why do you think god shouldn't be included? Don't you think he shouldn't be held responsible for the little babies he kills?
Apr 20, 2017 21:27:48 #
Why peepee,, are you too stupid to understand that?? or are you trying to misquote God?
PeterS wrote:
I made the comment because you said only god had the right to take life. Clearly that's not true if you are free to kill to for protection or for war. Would you care to restate or not?
Apr 20, 2017 22:42:28 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
In Exodus 21:22 God gives a specific law regarding social order for the Israelites. He stated that if two men were fighting and hit a pregnant woman, thus causing her to give birth prematurely, they must be fined according to any damage done to the baby. The fine must be paid in relation to the amount of damage inflicted upon the child. If God would make a law specifically referring to the rights of the unborn, then surely the unborn must mean something to Him!
It has been stated, “If the womb had windows, there would be no abortion.” As humans, we are not omnipresent and cannot know the full scope of what each human life is worth. We cannot dwell in the womb with a fetus, nor can we see it as it matures. But God can.
It has been stated, “If the womb had windows, there would be no abortion.” As humans, we are not omnipresent and cannot know the full scope of what each human life is worth. We cannot dwell in the womb with a fetus, nor can we see it as it matures. But God can.
Dr.Dross wrote:
With a proviso: not in the last tri-mester. If an ... (show quote)
Apr 20, 2017 23:43:50 #
PeterS wrote:
God kills more fetus's through miscarriage than are killed through abortion. I don't see Christians picketing god so I have a feeling they don't think it as bad as they are letting on. It didn't become a political point until Reagan's second term. Until then it was held fairly evenly between the two parties...
And if God is control, as some low-info Christians believe, he kills everyone.
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