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Jun 3, 2014 08:29:43   #
This is not true:
William Ehlert wrote:
a Mormon believes he earns heaven and is equal with the only begotten Son of God.


Nor is this:
William Ehlert wrote:
Why do your elders rub oil on young girls bodies?


I do have something to say about faith and works. We are given salvation freely. The only condition is to ask. But salvation means righteousness. The gift Christ offers you is to help you live a life of less sin. He means to perfect you in small steps until you can in perfect harmony with true principles. If your intention is to confess Christ, then continue to live the same life you always have, you've rejected His gift.
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May 30, 2014 11:45:21   #
Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Isaiah 1:53

"God doesn't do forgiveness halfway." -ThisWeekInStupid
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May 30, 2014 11:41:32   #
BearK wrote:
Below are two sites stating that our Social Security payments are now "Federal Benefit Payments" or entitlements (for most of us - direct deposit, so we don't get to see it). Will that 'federal benefit' then have to be repaid from our estate (if we have anything left) when we die?

http://www.turningpointusa.net/social-security-called-federal-benefit-payment-entitlement-2/
http://www.ice-news.net/2012/12/01/social-security-now-called-federal-benefit-paymententitlement/

Seniors tend to have a BLIND spot when they hear the words Social Security. I was not particularly a fan of John McCann, but when he ran he brought up the fact of how Chile treats their Social Security recipients, AND IT'S WORKING. Chile changed to private investment accounts. They told their people they had a choice, the PIA or traditional government benefits. For those who opted for the PIA, if it didn't pay what the government benefit was they would receive the difference. So far, Chile has not had to supplement any PIA recipients.
http://www.freedomworks.org/content/chilean-model-social-security
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/chiles-social-security-lesson-us
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If I had a nickel for every good idea I got from Augusto Pinochet...
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May 30, 2014 11:34:45   #
alex wrote:
maybe you should go back and check when Nixon was elected and when the war ended and who ended it


+1
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May 30, 2014 10:52:19   #
Laissez-faire capitalists are fond of the idea of spontaneous order--that systems, including economies, left on their own, allocate resources better than top-down managed systems. This is true, to a point. Here's an excerpt from my response headlining on http://www.thisweekinstupid.com

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In the 1950s other sciences like physics and especially biology began to notice that large systems made from simple parts could work together to create surprising and miraculous results. The brain is the most exciting example of this. Although some neurologists will likely disagree, the dynamics of a single neuron are simple. On receiving a pulse of energy from a nearby neuron through its dendrites, it sends a pulse to other neurons through its axon. This signal is then receieved by other neurons. There is also a feedback mechanism that strengthens or weakens connections which tend to fire simultaneously.

No one would look at that and guess that a collection of those interactions would produce human thought. That miracle of complex macrodynamics from a multiplicity of simple microsystems is what Hayek called “spontaneous order.” Hayek and others believed fervently in the power of spontaneous order to improve people’s lives in the realm of economics. Markets left alone, they said, also have feedback loops which allocate resources in a decentralized way, without any external planning. Hayek called it a “fatal conceit” to imagine that a planned economy could match a spontaneously ordered economy for efficiency.

During the Goldwater/Reagan revolution, this became the justification for opposing government interference in almost any form. Any top-down tweaking by government moves the economy away from the spontaneous order, which is assumed to be the most efficient possible. It was also a convenient defense against the primary ideological foe of the United States–the Soviet Union. To those of the Austrian school, the economic failure of the Soviet Union was definitive proof of Hayek’s idea.

But on closer examination, the assumption that spontaneous order is always elegant or beneficial seems to come from nowhere. As we look at other examples, we find spontaneous order is, indeed, powerful, but sometimes to our detriment. Spontaneous order can be fatal. A herd of cattle can be thought of as a complex system made of simple parts. We could describe the behavior of cows quite simply: Move toward grass; avoid obstacles. But, spurred by the wrong external stimulus, those simple dynamics can cause a stampede as one cow starts to run enticing others to run to get out of its way. Here, the order that arises spontaneously is certainly unexpected in that it does not follow in a straightforward way from the micro behavior. In this, a herd of cattle is like other examples of spontaneous order--a snowflake or a brain or an ecosystem. But in the case of cows, the macro behavior is not beneficial. Although the microdynamics were about avoiding injury, the resulting stampede can cause cattle to be trampled and k**led.

So, which kind of spontaneous order is our modern economy?
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There's more on the site, but what do you think? Is spontaneous order always better? What about a bank run? What about in creating a universe? How can you tell when a system needs some top-down guidance?
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May 30, 2014 10:39:29   #
Nickolai wrote:
The second amendment was put in place to placate the southern states rights s***e owners. The m*****as it speaks to were southern m*****as that patrolled for runaway s***es and to put down s***e r*******ns . All young southerners were called upon to serve time in the m*****a's and they supplied their own arms. The second amendment wasn't put there for citizens to protect them selves from the federal government. That is an invention of the NRA and modern wing nuts


Yeah. We'll need a source on that one.
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May 29, 2014 11:19:19   #
Bruce Kennedy wrote:
Jack you've got to quit generalizing. I believe in only one God and that is the God of Abraham, you know, the one, in the Bible.


Hear, hear!
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May 29, 2014 11:06:33   #
B****sheep wrote:
Still skeptical? Excellent reply here and right on point. :thumbup:


Very much still skeptical. What do you think those Koranic verses mean? If I find a gay Christian poet, does that mean Christians also expect to live their eternity in a sodomite paradise?

http://www.gaychristianonline.org/gaychristianpoetry01.html
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May 29, 2014 11:03:04   #
tdsrnest wrote:
Where did you get that info. I knew Tip O'Neil he never shut down the government. That is laughable


Tip O'Neil did shutdown the government 12 times...for a total of 13 days!

http://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/statements/2013/oct/04/newt-gingrich/newt-gingrich-says-late-speaker-tip-oneill-served-/
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May 29, 2014 10:48:23   #
Regularly, my RWNJ friends and relatives pass me some piece of dubious right-wing nonsense. Even on this site there was a thread about all these recent mass shooting being perpetrated by Democrats. Another was about Obama's non-existent K-12 Muslim outreach program. I've read that Obama introduced a Muslim postage stamp, he doesn't salute during the pledge of allegience and that first dog, Bo has his own plane. None of these are true.

When you google these, you typically find a dozen responses by fact-checkers, then several dozen right-wing sites that have cut-and-pasted the exact same nonsense, none of them with any sources. Like this:
http://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=yEaHU6rdHMac_waewICIDQ#q=mass+murderers+are+democrats

I thought maybe it just changes with the President and that rumors about George W. circulated similarly. But, my searching turned up mostly positive urban legends about Bush 43. Like these : http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/georgewbush/

So my question is, do Democrats do the same thing? Are there left-leaning urban legends that circulate without sources? Or are Republicans just less particular about sources?
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May 29, 2014 06:33:38   #


Most of those polls are from last year. ACA is, unfortunately, not popular now.
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May 29, 2014 06:30:08   #
Old_Gringo wrote:
I am unaware of ANY poll that picked Romney to win. Can you provide a link to just one?


Rasmussen and Gallup both had Romney by 1%. The result was Obama by 3.9%. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_e******n_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

But the real entertainment was when Fox News heralded the "unskewing" of polls that were biased against Romney. After "unskewing" they had Romney by 8-11 points, depending on the week.
http://americablog.com/2012/10/unskewed-poll-puts-romney-11-points-ahead.html
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May 29, 2014 06:17:06   #
B****sheep wrote:
in Islam, if a Muslim dies k*****g an infidel, he supposedly goes to Muslim Paradise where he gets 72 virgin girls and 27 pretty boys.


I'm skeptical of this. Can you give a source? Perhaps chapter and verse from the Koran?
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May 28, 2014 11:28:25   #
bdamage wrote:
Tell me one thing....just one....that Cruz told a lie on when he delivered his 20+ hours of speaking the t***hs about Obamacare in front of the Senate as well as the country.


Lies I don't know about. But let a few of these important "t***hs" sink in.

Beginning with

"If you put 5 rednecks on a mower, it's gonna be epic!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrO-zPPPgmQ#t=28
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May 28, 2014 11:10:09   #
Patty wrote:
You would have to understand what CPI and theft through inflation is to continue the conversation. Do that and get back to me.


No need to patronize. I know what CPI is.
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