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Jun 1, 2014 05:06:01   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
I say they are just a bunch of worm infested sinners just looking for a "Get Out Of HELL, Free" card!

Talk about the greedy, needy democrats always on the hunt for freebies and gifts, these people take the cake. They actually believe that if they just confess that Jesus is Lord that somehow they'll be saved for or from something, PLEASE?

Some guy told me this Roman fellow that lived at 10:9 (I sure believe that address is real) spoke something to him once that went,

"that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.…"

Can you believe that?

WAKE UP YOU BIBLE THUMPING DUMMIES, the Fall of Rome happened in 1453. Tell me something that an "I"talian guy told you and I might buy that, but a Roman, RIGHT?

Here's some Roman for all you barmy Jesus lovers...

"Addio Christains, buon divertimento!"

Oh, and just remember to "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer". They probably all think Michael Corleone said that, how gullible can you get?

What do you have to say about that Christians, maybe you'll just get angry and pray for me...?

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Jun 1, 2014 05:58:46   #
boss2
 
U left out the Ten Commandments If U dont belive in something U will die for nothing.

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Jun 1, 2014 06:59:47   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
Jesus Christ lives today with a body of flesh and bone as a God of LIGHT. Mock Him at your own peril.

I agree with your concerns with the Council of Nicaea consisting of a committee of men convened by the Roman Emperor Constantine. Catholic means universal. So many Christian sects existed by the time of the Roman Civil war nobody knew the original teachings of Christianity.

So, Constantine decided he needed to form a universal Church everybody could agree with. Being men they did the best they could but God had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with this committee. What resulted was a collection of various watered down ideas none of which were inspired of God. Many pagan religious traditions were adopted to pacify Roman Pagans. Like the 25th of December being the Birth of Christ. Actually Jesus Christ was born In April 5 of our calendar system.

Other Christian sects broke off the Catholic Church for one reason or another. So they call themselves Protestants. Only one Christian sect did not break from the Catholic church.

The Holy Priesthood was taken off the Earth after the Apostles were murdered. The Church of Jesus Christ no longer existed. God did not reveal anything due to the fact nobody had the Holy Priesthood in what became the Christian Church.

Until 1830 when God and Jesus Christ restored the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and ordained men into the Holy Priesthood of God by those having the authority to do so. You owe it to yourself to at least check it out!

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Jun 1, 2014 07:05:26   #
William Ehlert
 
He left everything out, including a way for him to justify himself, we get to have Jesus righteousness, he only has his, except his eyes open and repents.

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Jun 1, 2014 07:11:47   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
kmikale wrote:
I say they are just a bunch of worm infested sinners just looking for a "Get Out Of HELL, Free" card!

Talk about the greedy, needy democrats always on the hunt for freebies and gifts, these people take the cake. They actually believe that if they just confess that Jesus is Lord that somehow they'll be saved for or from something, PLEASE?

Some guy told me this Roman fellow that lived at 10:9 (I sure believe that address is real) spoke something to him once that went,

"that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.…"

Can you believe that?

WAKE UP YOU BIBLE THUMPING DUMMIES, the Fall of Rome happened in 1453. Tell me something that an "I"talian guy told you and I might buy that, but a Roman, RIGHT?

Here's some Roman for all you barmy Jesus lovers...

"Addio Christains, buon divertimento!"

Oh, and just remember to "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer". They probably all think Michael Corleone said that, how gullible can you get?

What do you have to say about that Christians, maybe you'll just get angry and pray for me...?

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I say they are just a bunch of worm infested sinne... (show quote)


Rome fell in 476 AD. Constantinople fell in 1453 AD. You must be one of those kids who never paid attention in your history class.

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Jun 1, 2014 07:47:29   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
ABBAsFernando wrote:
Jesus Christ lives today with a body of flesh and bone as a God of LIGHT. Mock Him at your own peril.

I agree with your concerns with the Council of Nicaea consisting of a committee of men convened by the Roman Emperor Constantine. Catholic means universal. So many Christian sects existed by the time of the Roman Civil war nobody knew the original teachings of Christianity.

So, Constantine decided he needed to form a universal Church everybody could agree with. Being men they did the best they could but God had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with this committee. What resulted was a collection of various watered down ideas none of which were inspired of God. Many pagan religious traditions were adopted to pacify Roman Pagans. Like the 25th of December being the Birth of Christ. Actually Jesus Christ was born In April 5 of our calendar system.

Other Christian sects broke off the Catholic Church for one reason or another. So they call themselves Protestants. Only one Christian sect did not break from the Catholic church.

The Holy Priesthood was taken off the Earth after the Apostles were murdered. The Church of Jesus Christ no longer existed. God did not reveal anything due to the fact nobody had the Holy Priesthood in what became the Christian Church.

Until 1830 when God and Jesus Christ restored the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and ordained men into the Holy Priesthood of God by those having the authority to do so. You owe it to yourself to at least check it out!
i Jesus Christ lives today with a body of flesh a... (show quote)


You know,get ready for a ton of crap leveled at you that Mormons are a cult that nowhere in the bible does it say that we are Jesus brothers, that the devil and Jesus are related is Foley and a host of other assaults.but my friend I am LDS and
Am glad to see I am not alone. We know the priesthood has been restored now and that we have a living breathing prophet to guide us. Have a blessed Sabbath Day brother Fernando. And know that families are 4ever.

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Jun 1, 2014 07:50:00   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
All I’m going to say if you’re going to mock Christians…

“The message of the cross is foolish to those who are headed for destruction! But we who are being saved know it is the very power of God.”

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Jun 1, 2014 07:51:16   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Loki wrote:
Rome fell in 476 AD. Constantinople fell in 1453 AD. You must be one of those kids who never paid attention in your history class.


That or maybe he is a product of the new teaching system. Its still inexcusable to think Rome fell in that year... Unbelievable.

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Jun 1, 2014 08:10:07   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
boss2 wrote:
U left out the Ten Commandments If U dont belive in something U will die for nothing.


Yeah, yeah, I heard that one too, "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything". I suppose that somebody went fishing and put that hook in your mouth too, am I right?

Aren't the big "Ten" just a little bit dated boss? How could they possibly apply to anyone in 2014 when they were supposedly written for Jews and, such a very long time ago, live in the NOW dude.

Add to that, that I'm not even Jewish, so they just don't apply to me.

Thanks, but no thanks!

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Jun 1, 2014 08:25:36   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
ABBAsFernando wrote:
Jesus Christ lives today with a body of flesh and bone as a God of LIGHT. Mock Him at your own peril.

I agree with your concerns with the Council of Nicaea consisting of a committee of men convened by the Roman Emperor Constantine. Catholic means universal. So many Christian sects existed by the time of the Roman Civil war nobody knew the original teachings of Christianity.

So, Constantine decided he needed to form a universal Church everybody could agree with. Being men they did the best they could but God had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with this committee. What resulted was a collection of various watered down ideas none of which were inspired of God. Many pagan religious traditions were adopted to pacify Roman Pagans. Like the 25th of December being the Birth of Christ. Actually Jesus Christ was born In April 5 of our calendar system.

Other Christian sects broke off the Catholic Church for one reason or another. So they call themselves Protestants. Only one Christian sect did not break from the Catholic church.

The Holy Priesthood was taken off the Earth after the Apostles were murdered. The Church of Jesus Christ no longer existed. God did not reveal anything due to the fact nobody had the Holy Priesthood in what became the Christian Church.

Until 1830 when God and Jesus Christ restored the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and ordained men into the Holy Priesthood of God by those having the authority to do so. You owe it to yourself to at least check it out!
i Jesus Christ lives today with a body of flesh a... (show quote)


"Mock Him at your own peril.", what, I never even met the MAN, why would I feel the need to mock him?

You say, "Constantine decided he needed to form a universal Church", yes him and about a zillion others. I don't know, not really a great argument for belief ABBA.

"Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints", hmmmmm, does membership comes with fries and my own pair of "magic underwear"? I'm not a real joiner ABBA, churches, at least the ones I've seen, are dark and cold just like their congregations. They could scare a person away from all humanity, let alone convert them to believe in somebody who walked planet earth so durn long ago.

I thank you much for all the info and the invite, but I'll just need to read more or see something before I change my world view.

Hey I know, tell me about a miracle you know about?

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Jun 1, 2014 08:29:33   #
William Ehlert
 
I want to ask this Mormon a few questions, like who Jesus is, why He died for our sins, not your massiah?

The word of God, the Bible says it is the inspired word of God and that if another comes and brings any other gospel, that man is a false profit.

So since the Mormon church says they believe the Bible, yet you call it a lie. The Mormon church says Jesus Christ was a profit, yet deny what He said about Himself.

You cannot say you believe the Bible and deny Christ without making yourself a false witness. Either the word of God is true or not just as Paul the Apostle said.

If it is true in psalms God asks a question, can you answer it? Who created everything, what is His name and what is His Sons name, if though canst tell?

Now that is a paraphrase and not the complete text. In Revelation (since Mormons say they believe the Bible, but do not) we see the word of God declare that He is not only Lord but Christ. It also says, He is King of Kings and LORD of Lords. It says He (Jesus) is Almighty God!

Jesus is the body God the Father chose to visit earth in. Very God Himself, Jesus is! Jesus according to the word of God spoke everything into creation. These words ushered from His lips, as He was before the creation, He walked on.

He is separate from the Father, in that the man was born of a woman. I see the wheels trying to keep up, wait, you just might see. We were in Christ when He rose from the dead on the third day.

Jesus had to be baptised to receive us. To be received, we must be baptised into Him in water. It does not have to be real water, for the children of Israel were baptised crossing out of Egypt and again when they (a different generation) cross the River Jordan.

Both times to was on dry ground yet they were baptised there and in the cloud they followed. You see Jesus is the water of the word, therefore we know it is true.

For the word of God says, we are clean through the word spoken to us. I did not believe in Jesus as being real while I spent two years in Vietnam trying to get k**led. I knew I was a sinner and h**ed myself.

I should have been k**led 40 some odd times there yet God had mercy. He waited ten years to the day from my enlistment to open my eyes. He called me, then into a different Army.

He used a Gideon Bible at work to do it. I had been deep into drugs and we played uker at work while on standby. I got so good the boss made me his partner and we won every night. Night after night, week after week and after some three months, we lost.

We had to sit a few games out until, our turn came around again. We had making about $20 every night and my boss was real anxious to getback in. I sat down aatthe boxes desk and started looking for smut.

I tried drawer after drawer to see if I could find a newer dirty book had not googled. Finding none, I picked up a book to see if any were under it. It, when I got it out, was a Bible.

It became an extreme hot potatoes for me. Franticly I searched for a drawer that did not have dirty magazines gut found none. I was frantic about getting rid of that Bible and then noticed all eyes in the room were on me!

I was embarrassed so, I opened it upon not look so dumb. I noticed out of the corner of my eye, none were looking. I read for less than a minuet and knew that I knew, someone was in that book telling me all my hear.

I did not feel any feeling of sin. I had not felt that way since I was nine years old. I kept reading and began to ask questions as I read, and read the exact answer to the question.

I stood that Gideon Bible and it became my pillow. I had not changed my sinfull lifestyle and still felt no gilt. I would wake up in the morning and ask God a question before I opened the Bible. Day after day, the word answered the exact question I had asked.

It was hot until a person who did not really believe said that was sin, so I quit. Faith is not sin! If it is innocent and done in faith, God answers faith, it is not sin.

I picked a guy one night on my way home from work. I did this a lot and always drove them where they were going. Many a long drive ad I went home at about 1:AM. This night I asked, should I take him where he was going, the answer was yes!

I picked him up and he said he was going to Portland Oregon, I lived 150 plus miles from there, never the less I took him. On the way there I told him, God loved him. He said, if God loves me prove it.

I was at a loss of words gut quoted a scripture. I don't even remember which one it was. This young mans chin hit his chest, no lie. I looked at him and he said, how did you do that? I said, what and he reached into his pocket and pulled out a piece of paper.

He handed me the paper and said, while he waited for a long time for a ride, he checked the coin slot on a pay phone. He said there were no found only this piece of paper. On the paper was the scripture I quoted.

You see, it was not me gut the Holy Spirit that spoke to that young man. He knew God had spoken to him. I have had the same thing, speaking by the unction of God's Spirit answers people need.

The word declares the Holy Spirit will indwell believers and endue them with gifts of the Spirit. These gifts still work today by faith. For without faith, we cannot please God, for he who comes to God must first believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Remember I had said, we are clean through the word spoken to us? I have just spoken the word and if you read that, you have no sins right now. The written or spoken word of God can open doors as well as eyes. The word can come alive, if you can think it can

I have seen these miracles on a daily basis since Feb of 1978 when I found the word of God come alive in my hand. I eventually felt the grip of sin in my life and when that happened I hit my knees, and I keep have to hit them when convinced of sin.

You will need to do this, if ever you are to find He is alive. Have you ever had a pet you were in love with? I have! If we can love a pet, do you think the creator of the whole universe would not want to love us?

Food for thought!.

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Jun 1, 2014 08:33:55   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
William Ehlert wrote:
He left everything out, including a way for him to justify himself, we get to have Jesus righteousness, he only has his, except his eyes open and repents.


Just hold on there one minute Quick Draw McGraw. You throw something out there called "justification" like it was something I could just pick up at the grocery store in aisle nine?

Now you say I have to repent, not just confess, the old bait and switch I suspect. Look, I say I'm sorry whenever I feel I have to, am I going to heaven, if so, do I need to notify the U.S. Postal Service? Never got my mail down here, maybe they'll do better on a higher floor?

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Jun 1, 2014 08:42:28   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
cant beleve wrote:
That or maybe he is a product of the new teaching system. Its still inexcusable to think Rome fell in that year... Unbelievable.


You've heard Mr. Multi-Cultural's latest re-write of history? The Revolutionary War was fought, and the Second Amendment was included in the Bill of Rights, so that rich Southern Planters could keep their s***es. Bet you'd never heard of that.
Oh yes, and the evil white Europeans stole the Southwest from the Mexicans, who somehow, along with Los Conquistadores, did not steal it from the Indians. I suppose the Indians willingly gave up their land and went to work in Mexican mines. As s***es. According to the entoproct, Hispanics are blameless in everything, and when their numbers are sufficient, the Second Mexican-American War will begin, as they charge into DC in a might phalanx of low riders to fix everything that evil white conservative males have screwed up. Like for instance, a standard of living that a Mexican could never have in Mexico, so they want to change the US into Los Estados de Mexico Del Norte, so they soon will not have that standard here, either.
Compared to that, Mixing up which city fell in what century is maybe not so bad.

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Jun 1, 2014 08:43:01   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
Loki wrote:
Rome fell in 476 AD. Constantinople fell in 1453 AD. You must be one of those kids who never paid attention in your history class.


Always one in every crowd! Morning Loki, I did that on purpose and by the way, weren't you that funny looking kid that sat behind me in history and religion class that keep slapping me in the head when I power napped? Thought I recognized the gesture?

What do you say Loki ol' buddy, a car in every garage, chicken in every pot, bible in every home and an M-16 in everybody's hand? Works for me.

I found out in prison, that books can be hollowed out and you can carry extra ammo clips without detection. Praise the Lord!

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Jun 1, 2014 08:49:06   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
mwdegutis wrote:
All I’m going to say if you’re going to mock Christians…

“The message of the cross is foolish to those who are headed for destruction! But we who are being saved know it is the very power of God.”


Look, I'm not mocking anybody mw, I just find some of them faith based ideas too easy and hard to swallow. Are you one of them Christian believers too, how'd they get ya exactly?

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