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Oct 9, 2013 04:15:58   #
Molly wrote:
The time for v****g has passed. The law has been passed and backed up by SCOTUS.

By the next e******n we will all know, or at least have an idea, of how the ACA will effect us all. For now though it is in effect and if you truly think it will fail your best bet is to let it ride out as will anyways and let the facts speak for themselves once they exist


By then private healthcare insurance would be destroyed. Obama told one lie after another. He's been a serial liar about B******i and other topics too.
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Oct 9, 2013 04:04:52   #
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Then why are the majority of Americans blaming the Republican's for the shutdown.


I don't think that's true, but if it is then it's because ABC, CBS, and NBC spin and omit information to help Obama.

Most don't realize that the Republicans passed bills to fund everything except Obamacare. Republicans also passed bills to fund the things Americans care about the most, as in the previous post Obama was complaining about.

Democrats said they won't pick and choose what to fund. That's laughable and sad at the same time with a nearly $17 trillion national debt.

They also lied since Obama is picking and choosing what to spend money on. Do you think he's trying to help the United States' credit rating by telling creditors he might not pay them even though he has the money?

He doesn't have to borrow more in order to make the next payment on the debt.
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Oct 9, 2013 03:29:17   #
Molly wrote:
I know a lot of democrats, and they are all passionate in their desire to see her excel and rise up as a strong nation again. I know know what kind of democrats you have been talking to, or if you even have, but I would be surprised to see that they h**e the US and want to see her fail.


Please try the experiment and say something nice about the United States and see them find something to say to counter it.
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Oct 9, 2013 03:19:43   #
octive9 wrote:
Can you, without just calling me names, explain how shutting down the government and defaulting on government expenses is a good thing? That is what some Tea Party Congressmen are willing to do.


The Republicans, including Tea Party Republicans are willing to fund the government except for Obamacare.

Democrats are the ones refusing to allow everything except Obamacare from being funded. They could just let the Republicans have their way and then I'm sure the Republicans will agree to negotiate about Obamacare with the same good faith Obama and Democrats claim they will negotiate if Republicans cave.

Obama has no excuse to default on the debt. There is plenty of money or he wouldn't be spending so much to make life painful for Americans in order to get his way. He also spent money to help i*****l a***ns protest in the National Mall even though he kept it closed to citizens not protesting for his causes.
Obama says Republicans pass a bill to fund things whenever they feel political pressure. Duh. That's because Democrats are trying to blame Republicans for those things not being funded.

Democrats refuse to fund the items and the American people are expected to blame Republicans for it.

Here's a good starting link into FoxNews where Donald Rumsfeld speaks about Obama picking and choosing against WWII veterans and against bereaved families whose loved one's body is being returned to the U.S. but Obama is denying them the usual t***sportation to meet the body.

I watched a few segments and the series is good at exposing in plain words what Democrats are doing.
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Oct 9, 2013 02:20:24   #
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Democratic Reps. Charles Rangel, Luis Gutierrez, Keith Ellison, Joseph Crowley, Al Green, and John Lewis, along with several other pro-amnesty activists, union members, and other left-wing protesters, got themselves arrested on purpose on Tuesday afternoon in a statement made in support of comprehensive immigration reform.
Are these Democrat Congressmen t*****rs for being co-conspirators with i*****l a***ns? They deliberately got themselves arrested and they must have conspired to do that.
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Oct 9, 2013 01:57:56   #
SouthernTide wrote:
The tea party has put ideology in front of the health of the American economy and the American people. They did this by trying to crash the American economy and reliability in order to undermine an existing law. This is a law that was passed by both the house and senate, signed into law by the president, and survived a challenge by the highest court in the land. In fact the president ran on this, his challenger against it. The President won the v**e of the american people.

They were sworn into office to protect the law of the land and the good of America. Because they apparently don't respect or care for either of these, does that make them guilty of treason?
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Are the pro a******nists all t*****rs since they fought to get laws changed?

Democrats are the ones refusing to fund the government. It's just Obamacare that Republicans are defunding and they are using the powers they are given in the Constitution to do it. If you try to deny the Constitution then you are the t*****rs and enemies of the Constitution.

Obama is the one who tried to scare the stock market into crashing. As usual l*****ts are accusing others of what they themselves are doing.
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Oct 9, 2013 01:47:52   #
Defunding things is not trying to destroy the government nor the country. Republicans are defending the Constitution from Obama and Democrats deliberately causing suffering for political gain. Democrats are putting their political party above the United States. It isn't that they are more loyal to their party than to the United States. They aren't loyal to the United States. Even Russia and China will help the United States if it serves their interests at the time.

If you think someone is not loyal to the United States say something bad about the United States and see if they defend the United States. You can do the opposite and say something good about the United States and see how quickly Democrats counter with something against the United States.
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Oct 9, 2013 01:39:24   #
Democrats are doing exactly what they said they wouldn't. They are picking and choosing what to fund. They allowed the i*****l a***n rally for instance.
Donald Rumsfeld does great in this FoxNews video as always.
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Oct 8, 2013 01:07:28   #
Homestead wrote:
If I was a "Male Chauvinistic pig," I'd say, women love to be abused and beaten.

Just kidding.........but...............why do women support a man that's

destroying their lives and futures???????????????


Like you're saying, some of them think that it's strong and manly to dominate others.
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Oct 7, 2013 20:49:01   #
Obamacare is a tax.
TurboTax site
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TurboTaxLisa said: on October 6, 2013 at 8:47 pm

Hi Betty,
If you don’t have any income you will not be required to purchase health insurance. If you earn under the IRS income requirement for filing a tax return (about $10,000) you are exempt. For additional answers to your specific health insurance questions, please visit
http://www.TurboTaxAnswerXchange.com
Thank you,
Lisa Greene-Lewis
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Oct 6, 2013 23:45:14   #
UncleJesse wrote:
It is real but the political debate is about the cause. Natural or manmade? Most scientist studying this see a direct correlation between the amount of carbon dioxide in the environment and g****l w*****g. They have evidence of the correlation. The debate occurs when the finger is pointed at sources of the carbon dioxide: burning fuel vs. some undiscovered phenomena. The debate is important because if you believe the source is manmade, the only practical solution are laws to reduce burning fuel. The technology to capture carbon dioxide from burning fuel hasn't been invented yet.
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The correlation is backwards and Al Gore and his co-conspirators know that.

Carbon dioxide increased hundreds of years after the Earth warmed and CO2 levels follow temperature increases and decreases.

CO2 in the atmosphere can reduce air quality when CO2 levels are over twice what they are now. 400 ppmv vs 1000 ppmv. It would take hundreds of years at the present rate of increase to reach 1000 ppmv in the atmosphere.

Even so, that is not causing g****l w*****g. Al Gore kept the information on two separate charts rather than a single chart since it would be obvious that CO2 is not a major driver of the Earth's temperature if he put the information on a single chart. That means his lies are deliberate.

CO2 is 4/100 of 1% of Earth's atmosphere. Water vapor (clouds, duh) has a far greater impact on Earth's temperature than CO2, and that is a cooling impact by reflecting the sun's rays away from Earth more than the amount of heat that is kept from radiating into space at night by the clouds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth

This NASA site points out that clouds reflect more of the sun's radiant energy than the ground would, so clouds make the earth cooler.
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The overall effect of all clouds together is that the Earth's surface is cooler than it would be if the atmosphere had no clouds.

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The Earth's climate system constantly adjusts in a way that tends toward maintaining a balance between the energy that reaches the Earth from the sun and the energy that goes from Earth back out to space. Scientists refer to this as Earth's "radiation budget." The components of the Earth system that are important to the radiation budget are the planet's surface, atmosphere, and clouds. The energy coming from the sun to the Earth's surface is called solar energy. Most of it is in the form of radiation from the "visible" wavelengths, i.e., those responsible for the light detected by our eyes. Visible radiation and radiation with shorter wavelengths, such as ultraviolet radiation are labeled "shortwave." Both the amount of energy and the wavelengths at which energy is emitted by any system are controlled by the average temperature of the system's radiating surfaces, plus the emission properties. The temperature of the sun's radiating surface, or photosphere, is more than 5500°C (9900°F). However, not all of the sun's energy comes to Earth. The sun's energy is emitted in all directions, with only a small fraction being in the direction of the Earth.
cloud albedo

Energy goes back to space from the Earth system in two ways: reflection and emission. Part of the solar energy that comes to Earth is reflected back out to space in the same, short wavelengths in which it came to Earth. The fraction of solar energy that is reflected back to space is called the albedo. Different parts of the Earth have different albedos. For example, ocean surfaces and rain forests have low albedos, which means that they reflect only a small portion of the sun's energy. Deserts, ice, and clouds, however, have high albedos; they reflect a large portion of the sun's energy. Over the whole surface of the Earth, about 30 percent of incoming solar energy is reflected back to space. Because a cloud usually has a higher albedo than the surface beneath it, the cloud reflects more shortwave radiation back to space than the surface would in the absence of the cloud, thus leaving less solar energy available to heat the surface and atmosphere. Hence, this "cloud albedo forcing," taken by itself, tends to cause a cooling or "negative forcing" of the Earth's climate.
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At night the clouds help hold in the heat.
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Another part of the energy going to space from the Earth is the electromagnetic radiation emitted by the Earth. The solar radiation absorbed by the Earth causes the planet to heat up until it is emitting as much energy back into space as it absorbs from the sun. Because the Earth is absorbing only a tiny fraction of the sun's energy, it remains cooler than the sun, and therefore emits much less radiation. Most of this emitted radiation is at longer wavelengths than solar radiation. Unlike solar radiation, which is mostly at wavelengths visible to the human eye, the Earth's longwave radiation is mostly at infrared wavelengths, which are invisible to the human eye. When a cloud absorbs longwave radiation emitted by the Earth's surface, the cloud reemits a portion of the energy to outer space and a portion back toward the surface. The intensity of the emission from a cloud varies directly as its temperature and also depends upon several other factors, such as the cloud's thickness and the makeup of the particles that form the cloud. The top of the cloud is usually colder than the Earth's surface. Hence, if a cloud is introduced into a previously clear sky, the cold cloud top will reduce the longwave emission to space, and (disregarding the cloud albedo forcing for the moment) energy will be trapped beneath the cloud top. This trapped energy will increase the temperature of the Earth's surface and atmosphere until the longwave emission to space once again balances the incoming absorbed shortwave radiation. This process is called "cloud greenhouse forcing" and, taken by itself, tends to cause a heating or "positive forcing" of the Earth's climate. Usually, the higher a cloud is in the atmosphere, the colder is its upper surface and the greater is its cloud greenhouse forcing.
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This heating effect of air on the surface, called the atmospheric greenhouse effect, is due mainly to water vapor in the air, but also is enhanced by carbon dioxide, methane, and other infrared-absorbing trace gases.
Note that the NASA site points to clouds moderating the temperature. In other words, without the moderating effect of the atmosphere, including clouds, the Earth would get extremely hot during the day and freezing at night.

It isn't hard to tell that it's cooler out under a cloud than in the sun. Clouds block more energy from the sun than they prevent from being emitted into space over night.

Here's a second link since the NASA government site may be a hostage of the Obama administration.
This EDU site agrees. PDF file.
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Oct 6, 2013 23:21:52   #
roy wrote:
all the people in that part of the world are muslins,how do you deal with any of them if you,bush dealed with the muslin brotherhood,nobody called him a muslin


No. President Bush worked with Muslims against Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda is part of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Obama referred to his own Muslim faith and only changed to lie about that when prompted by the helpful reporter. Who but a Muslim would keep accidentally referring to 57 states instead of 50? There are 57 Islamic states. A person has to work hard to be willfully unknowing of these facts.
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Oct 5, 2013 01:45:18   #
jetson wrote:
I wish my states governor of North Carolina, would say no to Obamacare


This is why the Constitution set it up for the Governors to appoint Senators. That way the Senators would represent their state instead of themselves.
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Oct 5, 2013 01:11:24   #
oldroy wrote:
OK, folks I think I have found out why Boehner doesn't want to try to negotiate with Obama. He was taken to the cleaners by Obama before and wants to avoid it again.

Anyway Putin is said to have said "Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon will knock over all the pieces, crap on the board and then strut around like it won the game!”


Republicans should know not to take Obama at his word.

Democrats are the ones saying they won't let anything else be funded unless Obamacare is funded too. (To be "fair" by letting people who need treatment go untreated as long as Democrats think they will score political points). Help kids with cancer? Reid asks: 'Why would we want to do that?'
If he is this heartless now imagine what they will do when they can secretly mess with people and dig into medical records.

Democrats refused to let a Republican appointed Senator sit in their Senate many years ago. They are extreme hypocrites as they expect to win every showdown whether they have the majority or not. This isn't a game. Republicans need to stand their ground and prevent Obamacare from destroying private health insurance. The United States has the best medical care in the world. Obama wants to change that so the government decides what medical procedures are allowed. New medical procedures will be unproven and so likely disallowed under government run healthcare.

Obama already has been selective in who he gave waivers to. The penalties will likely be enforced by the IRS where people are considered guilty until proven innocent and there is no due process of law. I've had to deal with the IRS before and driving back and forth to their office cost me more than the dispute, because they wouldn't return my calls.

This is just the beginning. Income tax was supposed to be limited too. Once the government gets drunk on new powers it isn't easy to get them to stop.
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Oct 4, 2013 22:07:34   #
lone_ghost wrote:
Obama and his cronies are on the march again to blame the Republicans for everything from the shutdown to the itch on their backsides. For two days prior to the shutdown the House Republicans were in session trying to figure out a way to stop it, where were the democrats? No where to be seen, they simply did not show up.
The republicans fought to fund the government to avoid a shutdown while the dems preferred to fund Obamacare, but the shut down is republicans fault. You would have to have a very warped sense of reality to see this as the Republicans fault.

Plain and simple though, Obama is the president of the country. The burden of fault ultimately falls on his shoulders. If you are a CEO of a company that fails, your share holders are going to hold you responsible. The same applies with the president. The government essentially failed and Obama is the CEO, we are the share holders. There is only one person to blame here, and that is the leader.
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I have a cousin who's a Democrat who talked that was when President Bush was in office, but he is quiet about such things now. The buck stops with the President was his opinion then no matter who in the Executive Branch did something, including low ranking military people.
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