One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
Palin said it, and it turned out to be true
Page 1 of 3 next> last>>
Oct 6, 2013 03:12:39   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamacare-death-panels-illegally-withholding-treatment/

The deeper we get into this ACA, the worse it gets.
Let me ask this of you. Is this what any of you wanted?

Reply
Oct 6, 2013 03:43:16   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
RETW wrote:
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamacare-death-panels-illegally-withholding-treatment/

The deeper we get into this ACA, the worse it gets.
Let me ask this of you. Is this what any of you wanted?


I know you don't agree with the selling of snake oil? If you want to buy that snake oil, go ahead, it is a free country, obamacare won't prevent you, you can buy it. Just don't be surprised if your health insurance doesn't cover it. That's all its saying. That Palin credo is a big joke that will stick to her like glue forever.

Reply
Oct 6, 2013 06:07:17   #
uptight
 
Heck NO, Heck NO!

Reply
 
 
Oct 6, 2013 06:36:55   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
UncleJesse wrote:
I know you don't agree with the selling of snake oil? If you want to buy that snake oil, go ahead, it is a free country, obamacare won't prevent you, you can buy it. Just don't be surprised if your health insurance doesn't cover it. That's all its saying. That Palin credo is a big joke that will stick to her like glue forever.


No, that's not what it is saying. And no, the Palin credo as you call it, is not a big joke. Are you saying that his fool that infects the White House, is better for or country than Gov. Palin would have been?

Reply
Oct 6, 2013 07:22:29   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
RETW wrote:
No, that's not what it is saying. And no, the Palin credo as you call it, is not a big joke. Are you saying that his fool that infects the White House, is better for or country than Gov. Palin would have been?



Let's just end the fool and his words conversation. Why is it so hard for us to "pull the plug" in this society? When is it appropriate to put the scalpel down? People die every day, and we are born to die; ironic isn't it? Medical care is a resource that should be appropriately managed and over the last few years I have seen abuses of that. Here are a couple of stories for you, since you are so concerned about "death panels".
My uncle had a massive heart attack and fell down a flight of stairs, by the time he hit the bottom he suffered brain death. His daughters talked my Aunt into keeping him on life support a few more days. If in fact his brain could have maintained his bodily functions (base brain) after brain death he would have spent his remaining days in a bed, with a feeding tube in his mouth. What a great life.
We had a church member that was a multiple drug abuser starting from the age of twelve. In her late forties, she could no longer work, so she received disability from Social Security. She was diagnosed with Cirrhosis of the liver. She received free care and surgery to improve her liver function. Due to her heroin abuse 25 years ago and alcohol abuse, she started suffering from early onset of dementia. A couple of years ago she opted to receive surgery on her back. She was sent home (probably too early) and died after passing out and going into a coma. Again, you the tax payer paid for this great treatment. If she had known that this is how she could end up: do you think that she would have chosen this option?
We feel so strange about end of life options. I suppose because we place so much trust in our medical provisions. In the end though, we can't beat death and delaying the inevitable to help you sleep at night is cruel. Think about that the next time for yourself-not someone else: you.

Reply
Oct 6, 2013 08:21:26   #
Whatamess Loc: SC
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Let's just end the fool and his words conversation. Why is it so hard for us to "pull the plug" in this society? When is it appropriate to put the scalpel down? People die every day, and we are born to die; ironic isn't it? Medical care is a resource that should be appropriately managed and over the last few years I have seen abuses of that. Here are a couple of stories for you, since you are so concerned about "death panels".
My uncle had a massive heart attack and fell down a flight of stairs, by the time he hit the bottom he suffered brain death. His daughters talked my Aunt into keeping him on life support a few more days. If in fact his brain could have maintained his bodily functions (base brain) after brain death he would have spent his remaining days in a bed, with a feeding tube in his mouth. What a great life.
We had a church member that was a multiple drug abuser starting from the age of twelve. In her late forties, she could no longer work, so she received disability from Social Security. She was diagnosed with Cirrhosis of the liver. She received free care and surgery to improve her liver function. Due to her heroin abuse 25 years ago and alcohol abuse, she started suffering from early onset of dementia. A couple of years ago she opted to receive surgery on her back. She was sent home (probably too early) and died after passing out and going into a coma. Again, you the tax payer paid for this great treatment. If she had known that this is how she could end up: do you think that she would have chosen this option?
We feel so strange about end of life options. I suppose because we place so much trust in our medical provisions. In the end though, we can't beat death and delaying the inevitable to help you sleep at night is cruel. Think about that the next time for yourself-not someone else: you.
Let's just end the fool and his words conversation... (show quote)


Letting GO of someone you love is the hardest thing you can do..I know, I watched my Mom for four years fight for her life battling cancer. She chose to fight, that was her right as a human being, not mine to say "You know you can't beat this so just die." I'm glad you're not one of the "chosen ones" on ACA death panel!!!!!

Reply
Oct 6, 2013 08:54:13   #
John Deere
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Let's just end the fool and his words conversation. Why is it so hard for us to "pull the plug" in this society? When is it appropriate to put the scalpel down? People die every day, and we are born to die; ironic isn't it? Medical care is a resource that should be appropriately managed and over the last few years I have seen abuses of that. Here are a couple of stories for you, since you are so concerned about "death panels".
My uncle had a massive heart attack and fell down a flight of stairs, by the time he hit the bottom he suffered brain death. His daughters talked my Aunt into keeping him on life support a few more days. If in fact his brain could have maintained his bodily functions (base brain) after brain death he would have spent his remaining days in a bed, with a feeding tube in his mouth. What a great life.
We had a church member that was a multiple drug abuser starting from the age of twelve. In her late forties, she could no longer work, so she received disability from Social Security. She was diagnosed with Cirrhosis of the liver. She received free care and surgery to improve her liver function. Due to her heroin abuse 25 years ago and alcohol abuse, she started suffering from early onset of dementia. A couple of years ago she opted to receive surgery on her back. She was sent home (probably too early) and died after passing out and going into a coma. Again, you the tax payer paid for this great treatment. If she had known that this is how she could end up: do you think that she would have chosen this option?
We feel so strange about end of life options. I suppose because we place so much trust in our medical provisions. In the end though, we can't beat death and delaying the inevitable to help you sleep at night is cruel. Think about that the next time for yourself-not someone else: you.
Let's just end the fool and his words conversation... (show quote)


I'll give you 2 stories. My grandmother was being harassed into get eye surgery which she strongly refused. She didn't drive anymore and she'd listen to TV and audio books, so she said could along fine and because of her age, she said it was a waste. She never got the surgery and lived her last 5 years out just fine. My wife's mother had diabetes and it claimed her leg and she was on dialysis and her heart was going bad. After 5 years of that the doctor told her the other leg would have to come off. She decided she'd had enough so she quit dialysis and a month later died. The moral of these stories is that in both cases the PATIENT made the choice, not the government. In the case of your uncle, someone else made his choice, which I think was a cruel choice. Your uncle should've had a will made up to pull the plug if his health failed to that degree.

Reply
 
 
Oct 6, 2013 09:53:10   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Are you kidding? Palin is somewhat a joke. Obama is serious whether you like him or not.

Reply
Oct 6, 2013 11:06:36   #
Brownink Thinks Loc: Eugene, OR
 
Seriously DERANGED you mean???

Reply
Oct 6, 2013 11:14:05   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Are you kidding? Palin is somewhat a joke. Obama is serious whether you like him or not.


Your mother must have dropped you as a baby.!

Reply
Oct 6, 2013 11:23:03   #
Brownink Thinks Loc: Eugene, OR
 
I don't think your mother had any children that lived!

Reply
 
 
Oct 6, 2013 11:23:51   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Your brain could not possibly be working. If your going to spout dribble make sure you have a towel to clean up your mess.

Reply
Oct 6, 2013 16:51:07   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
How about clicking the ( Quote Reply ) button when making a reply. That way, we all will know who it is your talking to.

Reply
Oct 6, 2013 16:57:09   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
cold iron wrote:
Your mother must have dropped you as a baby.!


Give it up fool. You seem very content letting some one else make your life decisions. Typical of a socialist. I bet you even have a ring in your nose.

Reply
Oct 6, 2013 17:01:10   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
RETW wrote:
Give it up fool. You seem very content letting some one else make your life decisions. Typical of a socialist. I bet you even have a ring in your nose.


This guy needs to change his name from cold iron to scrambled eggs

Reply
Page 1 of 3 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.