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May 24, 2019 21:06:21   #
EN Submarine Qualified wrote:
he "Bad Angel" WWII Story…
was in Hanger #4 of the Pima Air and Space Museum
to view the beautifully restored B-29, took notice of a P-51 Mustang near the big bomber.

Its name? "Bad Angel” Proudly displayed on the fuselage of “Bad Angel”were the markings of the pilot's kills: seven Nazis; one Italian;
one Japanese AND ONE AMERICAN. Huh? "Bad Angel" shot down an American airplane?

Kill marks on "Bad Angel”?
Was it a terrible mistake? Couldn’t be. If it had been an unfortunate misjudgment, certainly the pilot would not have displayed the American flag
I knew there had to be a good story here. Fortunately for us, one of the Museum's many fine docents was on hand to tell it. In 1942, the United States needed pilots for its warplanes lots of war planes; lots of pilots. Lt. Louis Curdes was one. When he was 22 years old, he graduated flight training school and was shipped off to the Mediterranean to fight Nazis in the air over Southern Europe.

Lt. Louis Curdes arrived at his 82nd Fighter Group, 95th Fighter Squadron in April 1943 and was assigned a P-38 Lightning. Ten days later he shot down three German Messerschmitt Bf-109 fighters. A few weeks later, he downed two more German Bf -109's. In less than a month of combat, Louis was an Ace. During the next three months, Louis shot down an Italian Mc.202 fighter and two more Messerschmitt's before his luck ran out A German fighter shot down his plane on August 27, 1943 over Salerno, Italy. Captured by the Italians He was sent to a POW camp near Rome. No doubt this is where he thought he would spend the remaining years of the war. It wasn't to be. A few days later, the Italians surrendered. Louis and a few other pilots escaped before the Nazis could take control of the camp. One might think that such harrowing experiences would have taken the fight out of Louis, yet he volunteered for another combat tour.

This time, Uncle Sam sent him to the Philippines where he flew P-51 Mustangs. Soon after arriving in the Pacific Theater, Louis downed a Mitsubishi reconnaissance plane near Formosa. Now he was one of only three Americans to have kills against all three Axis Powers: Germany, Italy, and Japan.

Up until this point, young Lt. Curdes combat career had been stellar. His story was about to take a twist so bizarre that it seems like the fictional creation of a Hollywood screenwriter.

While attacking the Japanese-held island of Bataan, one of Louis' wingmen was shot down. The pilot ditched in the ocean. Circling overhead, Louis could see that his wingman had survived, so he stayed in the area to guide a rescue plane and protect the downed pilot.

It wasn't long before he noticed another, larger airplane, wheels down, preparing to land at the Japanese-held airfield on Bataan. He moved in to investigate. Much to his surprise the approaching plane was a Douglas C-47 transport with American markings. He tried to make radio contact, but without success. He maneuvered his Mustang in front of the big transport several times trying to wave it off. The C-47 kept ahead to its landing target. Apparently the C-47 crew didn't realize they were about to land on a Japanese held island, and soon would be captives.

Lt. Curdes read the daily newspaper accounts of the war, including the viciousness of the Japanese soldiers toward their captives. He knew that whoever was in that American C-47 would be, upon landing, either dead or wish they were. But what could he do? Audaciously, he lined up his P-51 directly behind the transport, carefully sighted one of his 50
caliber machine guns and knocked out one of its two engines. Still the C-47 continued on toward the Bataan airfield. Curdes shifted his aim slightly and knocked out the remaining engine, leaving the baffled pilot no choice but to ditch in the ocean. The big plane came down in one piece about 50 yards from his bobbing wingman. At this point, nightfall and low fuel forced Louis to return to base.
The next morning, Louis flew cover for a rescuing PBY that picked up the downed Mustang pilot and 12 passengers and crew, including two female nurses, from the C-47. All survived. Later, Lt. Curdes would end up marrying one of these nurses!

For shooting down an unarmed American transport plane, Lt. Louis Curdes was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross.

Thereafter, on the fuselage of his P-51 "Bad Angel", he proudly displayed the symbols of his kills: seven German, one Italian, one Japanese and one American flag.
he "Bad Angel" WWII Story… br was in Ha... (show quote)

Great story. Thanks for posting it.
May 24, 2019 20:50:52   #
Gatsby wrote:
If you fail to control your fears, then you will surely become a slave to them.

That' true. That's why I wanted to be first in our rappeling class. I went from 80' to 180' to 220'.
I had to make,myself do it or give into my fears. I chose to do it!!!
May 24, 2019 02:54:48   #
jack sequim wa wrote:
Know is the key, evidence by the Holy Spirit and the word of God.
Took me some growing to learn its not an emotion. Immature christen "feel" saved, then question when they don't "feel" saved.

More to your point. I can't imagine the empty existence believing that life ends like a candle being blown out, parties over, lights out. Instead living in this blink of an eye life and knowing there is an eternity that every moment will be a hundred times better, a hundred times my joyful, peaceful than my absolute best day in this tent. Living in this darken times in joy knowing the marriage supper in nearer than ever. Yes, it's great knowing.

God Bless
Know is the key, evidence by the Holy Spirit and t... (show quote)

May 24, 2019 00:08:44   #
jack sequim wa wrote:
It was my fear of what would happen to me when the lights went out. Will it be just that, the lights go out? But what about the documented spiritual events written about over the centuries and even more documented cases in my lifetime? If there is another life, is there a eternal heaven or a place our souls go to walk the earth, or what if there is a hell, have I been good enough and how can I know if I have been good enough?
I started asking questions and to make a long story short, my questions took me to the cross. Thank God it's not entrance by merit /good works but I'm bought and paid for by faith in the son of God, God in the flesh, his shed blood paid for my sins and by faith I can confess with my mouth.... Ect, ect...
Their hearts become hardened in their rejection of Jesus the messiah and God gives them over to the sins they lust to live in instead of having Jesus as their Lord.

I can't imagine the fear they must feel to some on their death bed.
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I'm so glad you found what God freely gave you! Isn't it a wonderful feeling to KNOW that you are saved?
May 24, 2019 00:03:47   #
eagleye13 wrote:
A question for all;
Is infanticide okay?

May 23, 2019 14:04:34   #
EmilyD wrote:
I wonder how they get the guy down? I don't do heights well at all, except flying in a plane doesn't bother me for some reason.

It's because you are not afraid of falling while in a plane.
May 23, 2019 14:03:35   #
Richard Rowland wrote:
China builds bridges; America spends its resources on immigrants.

OMG...That made my stomach tingle just watching the video. I'm NOT afraid of heights, but I AM afraid of falling!
May 23, 2019 13:32:29   #
woodguru wrote:
Funny thing about real people, real trump supporters...I know quite a few, they have different degrees of what information sinks in. Several do not agree with the government interfering in abortion. Several say they think Trump is making a mistake refusing to comply with congress, they know that Obama's administration cooperated with endless GOP investigations that were far more partisan. Several say that if Trump can be proved to have obstructed and interfered with investigations he needs to be held accountable, here is where they waffle and bring in the what about Hillary or Obama deflection.
Funny thing about real people, real trump supporte... (show quote)

Let's look at how Obama cooperated with investigations...Eric Holder was held in contempt for NOT turning over records on Fast and Furious. That's NOT cooperation. Obama then pardoned him. That's NOT cooperating. Obama then sealed his own records by executive order. Still NOT cooperating. A lawsuit was filed to get those sealed docs, and when released, were just a pile of black pages.
Is that your idea of cooperation?
And Hillary? She destroyed subpoenaed evidence! And what was HER punishment? Nothing...not a thing.Comey even changed the report on it from criminal to negligent. Her and Bill just recently had a fire that destroyed Clinton Foundation records. How convenient, Huh?
Your side of the aisle has swallowed a camel and and are now straining a gnat.
Just remember, whatever junk charge/charges you finally, after years of scratching for ANYTHING, throw on Trump will equally be thrown at the next democrat candidates. Eventually, we will not be able to elect a president because no one will be found "clean enough" to take the job.
May 23, 2019 01:15:15   #
Ricktloml wrote:
Can we get an Amen!

May 22, 2019 13:56:52   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
My apologies friend David...

I should have been clearer...

I don't believe that God hated Esau before he was born...

Hope you get a good rest...

Stay strong...

Good noon, my friend,
This 5 day a week business is getting on my nerves!!

May 22, 2019 13:31:11   #
woodguru wrote:
If Trump is impeached I'm hoping the ignorant fire ants can start looking at why, the reasons, it would be a shame to wipe out ignorant and clueless people who's only error was believing in rhetoric and bullshit.

Read the case on obstruction, just McGahn does it in terms of criminal obstruction. No free passes for the wonderfulness of the job he did, he doesn't understand what obstruction is.

If after 2 1/2 years of torrid investigating, YOUR man Mueller found no it possible that he missed something? Were there ANY way that Trump could have been charged, do you actually believe that Mueller just...didn' I don't.
As for obstruction, what about Elijah Cummings telling a witness what to say under oath. It sure looks as though that's OK with you because he is a democrat.
So, it's NOT obstruction, but rather, what party one claims.
May 22, 2019 13:16:22   #
JW wrote:
I'll try to be clearer. To determine what life is, one must look at several very different forms of life to find the commonality. What each creature does is irrelevant. What does each creature have in common? Life... certainly... what is the only commonality to every form of life? They have the ability to function... all function differently but all have the ability to function.

Now, turning to the two bodies you presented; one can function, one can not. Not only do all living things have the ability to function but things lacking life have no such ability. So, life is the ability to function,
life is functionality.

Your question was what is life. You asked for a scientific response. You got one.

As for your new slant, of course a baby is alive and so is a wart. What is being destroyed in an abortion is a living thing but only a thing, at least in the initial stages of development. What its potential might be is a very different question. Once that potential has been sufficiently developed, the considerations all change. The real issue is the one originally raised in this thread; at what point are we beings... instead of just things.
I'll try to be clearer. To determine what life is,... (show quote)

I'll answer you last point first. You are correct of course, that babies and warts are both living things. The real difference, as you pointed out, is potential. The wart will always be just a wart, but the unborn baby just might be the future president of the U.S., or a doctor...who knows? When you kill the baby, you kill everything it may have accomplished in life.

As for a description of life, maybe I'm not using the correct words. You said the living body has the "ability" to function, while the dead body does not. I believe that ability comes only with life...where there is no life, there is no ability. Our ability to function does not include dreaming and imagining. If we lived as animals, only concerned with eating, safety, and procreation, we would have survived just as well as we have, maybe even better. What I was asking for is to give a scientific explanation of the ability you spoke of, or life. You see, I don't believe science CAN answer that question...what is life. Science can tell you when something is alive or not, but I don't believe science can tell you why one thing is live and another thing, identical in every way, is dead. A body can be kept functional artificially, but that doesn't mean that there's "anybody home". On the other hand, the body can be clinically dead and the "life" can still be returned to the body.
I hope I explained it better this time around.
Have a great day, JW
May 22, 2019 12:53:01   #
Pennylynn wrote:
Perhaps I have become jaded. It is possible that I am confusing the responses and conversations on OPP with ordinary citizens. Far too many degrade (quickly I might add) into "Yo Momma" remarks. So far, this thread is absent of such remarks, and I am grateful.

I hope you are right and I am in error.

I don't believe you're in error. Look at it this way...I get a kick out of tearing up fire ant hills. They got on me in Louisiana and I have disliked them ever since.
When you look at a fire ant hill, you don't see any ants. It's a placid scene. But take a stick and knock the top off of that hill and the ants come boiling out by the thousands. People are like the may think they are docile...but do something to disturb them and see what happens.
If Trump is impeached, I'm hoping that will be the stick in a fire ant hill.
May 22, 2019 12:14:43   #
Oldsailor65 wrote:
New Word For Your Vocabulary: SEENAGER

I JUST discovered my age group!
I am a Seenager (Senior teenager).
I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 60 years later.
I don't have to go to school or work.
I get an allowance every month.
I have my own pad.
I don't have a curfew.
I have a driver's license and my own car.
I have ID that gets me into bars and the wine store. I like the wine store best.
The people I hang around with are not scared of getting pregnant, they aren't scared of anything, they have been blessed to live this long, why be scared?
And I don't have acne.
Life is Good!

Also, you will feel much more intelligent after reading this, if you are a Seenager.
Brains of older people are slow because they know so much.
People do not decline mentally with age;
it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information
in their brains.
Scientists believe this also makes you hard of hearing as it puts pressure
on your inner ear.
Older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for.
It is NOT a memory problem; it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise.


I have more friends I should send this to, but right now I can't remember their names.
So please forward this to your friends; they may be my friends, too.

New Word For Your Vocabulary: SEENAGER br br i ... (show quote)

Oh My! So true....
May 22, 2019 06:49:25   #
Pennylynn wrote:
I agree with you, it would force the President (regardless of which party is in power) into a servant of the House. So, control would pass from checks and balance to a dominance of the party serving in the House. This, of course, is contrary to how the Republic was intended by our founding fathers. I hate to say it, but it would seem that the members of the House is so intent on destroying President Trump that they are ignoring the potential consequences of their action. Having said that, we are proud members of US citizenry and to be honest not many are capable of independent thought, they have to be told what to think. Our media gives them a daily supply of misinformation, political propaganda, and down right lies. Of course the media is financially dependent so their "news" is up for sale to the people who have the deepest pockets.
I agree with you, it would force the President (re... (show quote)

I totally agree except for one thing; I believe that MOST people are very capable of independent thought, but it takes something hitting them hard enough to "wake them up" and get them to pay attention. I also believe that this IS what's happening across the country, but the MSM isn't reporting it.
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