I will check out the memoirs of Talaat Pasha, it sounds like the sort of stuff Tanner Akcan recorded "A Shameful Act" some things are incomprehensible to people who haven't endured such horrors, even underwear was removed and used.

I don't believe there was ever a serious attempt at punishment, if there was some at least Armenians would have returned, from what I understand they were not allowed to.

The Youg Turks began their massacre of Armenians in 1909 and by 1915 there were 1.3 million Armenians k**led so they couldn't come back, but the Armenians Communities in Syria were the result of survivors so some could have returned and Armenians living outside of the Ottomon Empire could have swelled the ranks of the 400,000 Armenians that stayed in Turkey.

Armenians from the Soviet Republic could have taken possession of Armenian property on behalf of the dead, instead the Young Turks engaged in Civil War with the Ottoman old guard the British were supposedly supporting the Sultan who was again recognized as the Legal Authority in 1918.

I think the British lost on purpose, the fact that they sent troops probably didn't mean much, I don't know how many never went home.

But I will check out the secular account because it was Churchill that rejected Turkish approaches to side with the Allies, Churchill just wanted to grab Ottoman wealth, hence the Arab revolt that really won the war for the Allies because the Indian Muslims became leaderless which allowed the Palestinian campaign that conquered Jerusalem , General Allenby enters Jerusalem December 1917 Arab Revolt was June 1916

It took me a fair bit of thinking though.

I have posted years ago that Armenian ethnic cleansing was a profound significance I called it genocide for first time, I go a bit blassy on OPP but it's really not proper to call it genocide if you consider it to be a Divine Act to bring about the situation for the outcome of (p) Abraham's Religion to be made apparent, it's really beyond human capacity to be guilty or blamed because it was instigated by God.

Religious tolerance was the hallmark of the Ottomon period the Armenians were prosperous and numerous that changed in 1913 the secular movement took over and the Armenians were ethnically cleansed the property less Kurds became sediment with Armenian holdings.

We could be witnessing another great cultural upheaval, Armenian history you say is irrelevant, but maybe is most relevant Theologically.

Or maybe not, the Sublime Port was lost 100 years ago and the Armenians went down now Religion is making a comeback and the Kurds are going down this is like a yo yo.

Or a Divine Revelation who knows.

So did the PMU, so did the Palestinians in Yarmouk refuge camp Damascus, so did the Syrian Arab Army, so did FSA, so did al- Qaeda, so did Hezbollah all acted as boots on the ground while US Air was engaging IS.

Russian Air was bombing IS oil convoys going to Turkey when Obama was just bombing Syrian infrastructure saying on more than one occasion - "you know it will take at least 30 years to defeat IS " - Obama was obviously thinking let IS smash Assad then worry about it.

However while Obama was saying that, others were saying let IS smash al-Zawahiri the boss of al-Qaeda and then worry about it.

Al-Zawahiri is still around, somewhere, maybe we think, maybe not, possibly he's wised up and retired but Assad hasn't opted for the quiet life.

I agree Kurds are not all C*******t, I don't think the ideology of the Kurds is the problem on a personal level, but its the same situation as in Southern Yemen where the secessionist movement was C****e built, in Afghanistan the same thing applied, or was similar, until rubbed out by Taliban, Nasser in Egypt was similar gone completely, good or bad is no longer relevant.

Does it fit in with what has taken it's place is what's pertinent.

South Yemen and Kurdistan secessionist movements are the only remnants of that era.

There is a very big tangible part of Kurdish history tied up with Abdullah Ocalan the PKK leader, as long as he represents the Kurdistan Movement all Kurds will think his ideology is paramount, to think otherwise is to come up with a replacement which has a broad acceptance.

Islam could the job but Ocalan's Career was founded on anti-Religion and Religion is not acceptable to Kurdish secular benefactors also for Religion to be used as a tool there needs to be a Religious enemy and the Kurds are best friends with Z*****ts, MbS tired to be friends with the Z*****ts but I think he has failed.

Ocalan belongs to a ideological currents that have stopped flowing in the Middle East the Baathists were all secular now all that has changed, if Kurds move now they will be slaughtered like Saddam's followers were.

It would be difficult to believe if Kurdistan came about as it nearly did in the Iraqi referendum 2017 that Ocalan wouldn't be seen as its founder and de facto leader.

No Kurds anywhere label Ocalan as a criminal amongst their followers, in the Iraqi Parliament they do disingenuously.

Syrian YPG and SDF always posed with his propaganda, and his ideology is joined at the hip with Cultural Left Soros Politics, I suspect funded at highest level by G*******t Plutocrats Facebook and Google proprietors and alt-right elements come crypto freaks.

The Kurds are principally responsible for the Armenian Genocide.
F.T. K's

Well, !! All the IS prisoners that the Kurds let go can come and live at my place and I'll give them special re-education curriculum, then I can go live in the Syria parts that Turkey is liberating from C****e Kurds because Turkey said if the EU calls them invaders 3 million Syrian Refugees won't be allowed back into Syria and will have to head off to France and Germany.

The only problum is if I'm in Syria having a good time with the Arabs who was living there before the Kurds came who's going to be taking the re-education classes in Australia?.

I suppose I could advertise and C****e Kurds are welcome to apply.

Biden is a fruit loop.

The lasting logic applied to learning came to me from the Miocene, the memory is a bit blurry but if I remember it was a great release to be rid of them pesty dinasours which pushed my class really high up on the pecking order, if your counting back which we're doing righ now, actually if I remember right only the bones were left when my class got the green light to go at the carcass, we used rocks to break up the bones and suck out the narrow.

But the guy who always came last in the class, if I remember correctly, said to me after a meal, you know what RTfriend I've just had a wonderful idea, I was so glad he got my name righ I decided to indulge him, and requested that he inform me about it immediately.

Well said the stand in for a human since we got a few bones left over why don't we point one at a saber-toothed tiger.

An interesting through I replied go sleep on it and see if you can remember that wonderful idea when you awaken.

To my astonishment he did so, I guess that's why he became such a bright spark from a very dark start.

We never tried pointing the bone at the tiger, we didn't have to, the teacher said to me I was now her number one sophomore and this was my final year.

So I unfortunately never graduated which I attributed that to the newly raised up dux of the class pointing his bone at the teacher, obviously he was confusing teacher for tiger after his siesta thereby becoming the teachers pet, and alleviating me of that responsibility.

It might interest you woodguru to know that irony was a predicate of beginning basically because t***h was subverted from the very first communication, so there was no moral authority to begin with, actually it was the irony manifested by the interlocutor that cause moral authority to come into reality long before existence was even though of, but we can put that to one side for the moment.

Your topic for discussion is quite interesting what I want to ask your comment on concerns the particulates regarding sexuality as the variance of fetishism and hence does this human, perhaps quality, t***spose itself into f**e news automatically ?.

Can fixation of interest between two people be sustained without sexual attraction or is this the representation of f**e news ?.

And if you can't answer because of, for one reason or other, perhaps you could tell the communicators here if nostalgic memories are the bedrock of cultural identity and what role, if any, does nostalgic contemplation play in social dynamics.

Dear me and thank goodness that's all gone with the wind, I'm pretty sure the Speaker was reluctant to proceed with Ukrainegate so close to big brother Russiagate, Le-Pen is left wondering if her particular poison would have any bearing on the object, heaven forbid it be Nancy Pelosi, I only hope she has been warned Marine Let Pen has got the vengeance of a woman scorned.

Now when women come after me they take pity if I make out I'm a blood thirsty warrior, I'm an extremely good actor and it gets em everytime although my experience shows a good dose of Secret Agent Comrade Novichok will put Nancy 6 feet under.

Also I'm not a spy but I can tell you who is and she also works for Putin and she's known as the Smooth Second Amendment Operator Maria Butina who embarked on her mission with the NRA watching her back, and we all know what they were looking at, another wasted gal that could of had a prodigious future instead of joining up with Comey and Muller exposing the deep state.

I heard it eerily, and so had to block my ear that Fox was turning on Trump, luckily that idea escaped me, but not everyone is as fast as me, the reason I'm so quick off the mark belongs a documentary concerning it pays to be smart.

My pay day is yet to come so I can quit anytime I like, just means that I'll never have a GF, but Trump has already received the funds, I don't think he can quit and walk away.

Which is the biggest NSA or CIA ?

The Fat-Cats want Trump to deliver or at least try to, the same way Bush senior and junior did, certainly Obama didn't hold back and Hillary was shafted by the establishment so Trump could let loose and be the Danger-Man which in the proverbial Fat- Cat eye means war on this Continent and on that.

The CIA has got a bigger budget but NSA is more sneakier so I would say the biggest by far is the candle lit dinner on the Slow Boat to China and I sincerely hope Trump makes it even though I never.

MAGA / TOCBWV ( take out country back without violence )

It is very complicated and people haven't got the time or knowledge to come to informed opinions so if we in our own humble way just ask all the caring folks to sit up and take notice a bit more than they usually do because there could be big changes coming up in Britain and maybe US too.

Trump could be in trouble if the banks sabotage the economy.

What the Dems are offerring, and what are the Conservatives offer in Britain is "not" more of the same, because the established ways of the past 50 years are coming to a close, a tradesmen in Australia 40 years ago could retire with a suburban home and a beach house this was common now it is unheard of, unless tradesmen had benefited from property capital gains which were taken advantage of by selling up and moving on.

I'm not saying Trump's economic policies are workable but the culture Trump stands for compared to the Dems is what I advise well meaning folks should consider as being far better than the Dems, the very best thing would be Trump and Sanders joining forces sounds stupid but Hillary and Graham are doing it.

That's like asking what has H****r B***n got in common with Ghislaine Maxwell ?.


For it is written silence is golden for which some are beholding virtual reality under the rock of a twisted academy where christmas trees are candle hanakkah menorah smothered in tinsel still made from shredded silver lighting up the English word hanky panky.

Much obliged.

ps. Isn't Brexit getting exciting, I keep near falling off my chair, if Boris is a man which I think he could be he'll continue on and break the law and possibly be arrested but that will make him a hero, maybe.

Obviously a false one, anyhow wish him all the best from me, I am the only true Messiah but I don't see any harm in others having a go, maybe we could team up, one of us has to go make peace in the Middle East and end the friction in political economics.

Speaking of friction we had the rave party going at it over this long weekend, I vowed to ride my bike RD 650 to West Australia and leave it there get my KTM 450 regestered and use it around here and at the track, so then since air fares are so cheap under $500 return to Perth from Sydney every long weekend I could split the scene and stay out of prison.

But my car needs engine rebuild so probably would have it off the road and so my racing career with my super fast KTM 250, 2 stroke would not take place as I wouldn't be able to get my racing bike to the race meetings, do you know anyone who would be interested in sponsoring me if I promise to come good with a few miracles?.