nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

It's an issue.

The l*****t/Democrat/Trump h**er - "We stay. Trump's abandoning the Kurds. A decision based upon nothing but politics and h**e for Trump.

The Republicans - Two ways of looking at it; We shouldn't leave or we should or maybe, there's more to this than meets the eye. Bottom line, for the Republicans, it's policy debate between opposing thinking, not a knee jerk "I h**e Trump" reaction like the left.


My big question: How is the move of 50 military personnel a total of 25 miles going to bring on Armageddon??

Trump made a fair point: Not all Kurds are the same and not all of them are good, loyal patriotic, pro-Americans. He pointed to an article about some of the history of the Kurds back into past wars. They didn't chime into those wars helping us. They have only helped us when they had something of value to gain. In this case, their homes/land/where they live at present.

Here's the point. It's not a slam dunk sort of policy decision which is easily made. And it's not something you decide on based upon politics and h**e for the president. Our guys are in danger and some will die as they have been now for 20 some odd years in Afghanistan and they region. If I were Trump, I'd get tired of having to explain it to the family's of the service men who died, as to why it was necessary for them to die. Soldiers die, true enough, but are they nothing but pawns to be played and lost??

They say our guys just being there would stop Turkey from attacking the area. Really? How many of you guys want to go over there and essentially be human shields between the Kurds and Turkey, and test that theory?????

PeterS

What did our commanders say? Isn't this part of the reason why they are there? There are 12,000 ISIS fighters held by the Kurds and they have made it known that guarding them is second to fighting the Truks. What has all the blood been lost for if we are just going to stand by and watch the men we fought against simply melt away to reemerge where?

Kevyn

If you look at it that way the twenty four thousand American service members in SOuth Korea are a human shield between the north and south. Besides that you need to study up a bit on geography, Italy is closer to Syria then Afghanistan and the conflict in Afghanistan has nothing to do with the Civil war in Syria or the Kurds. Abandoning our allies is at best cowardly, they did our bidding and we owe them. At the very least if Trump tucks his tail between his legs and runs, handing Syria to our Russian enemies and ISIL he should at least offer them and their families an opportunity to come to the US to live rather than leave them to their deaths at the hand of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Well, !! All the IS prisoners that the Kurds let go can come and live at my place and I'll give them special re-education curriculum, then I can go live in the Syria parts that Turkey is liberating from C****e Kurds because Turkey said if the EU calls them invaders 3 million Syrian Refugees won't be allowed back into Syria and will have to head off to France and Germany.

The only problum is if I'm in Syria having a good time with the Arabs who was living there before the Kurds came who's going to be taking the re-education classes in Australia?.

I suppose I could advertise and C****e Kurds are welcome to apply.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

How does moving 50 American soldiers 25 miles effect them?

And now that you've brought it up, did you know that most of those ISIS detainees are from the EU? A couple of Americans also who I am sure we could bring back here and let them stand trial for their crime. Shouldn't the EU do the same? They were the ones who gave the Muslims and Islamist's such a huge foot in the door there anyway. Where are the EU soldiers in the region by the way??

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I agree with everything you have stated on this thread....

It appears that any action would have been wrong...

Although, perhaps, more could have been done to diffuse the situation...

It is a hard call...

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

The Kurds are principally responsible for the Armenian Genocide.
F.T. K's

Kevyn

Well as soon as they moved the Turks attacked our closest allies with artillery and aerial bombing, it should be damn obvious how it effects them, even to members of the Trump cult of ignorance.

Kevyn

The Armenian genocide took place over 100 years ago, there hasn’t been a person alive responsible for the genocide in this century.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Sorry kevy but this is a discussion for adults, not l*****t liberal Trump h**ers; the reason being that you have argued agaisnt every single thing Trump ever did. We know your position is simply a Trump h**e position and has no merit. By the way, the Kurds can immigrate at any time. Their requests for asylum are well qualified and DO have merit, should they do that.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

A truly interesting perspective. I know there are some Kurds who are c*******t in their views, but not all I think. And despite all of it, they DID act as our boots on the ground under our Air force in the fight against the Caliph**e.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Oh yes, it was our commanders who recommended the move of the 50 just over 25 miles away. All else is as it was.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Very hard. Much to consider both present time and historically.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

There is a recognition by several groups of Kurds of the participation of their ancestors in the Armenian Genocide during World War I. Some Kurdish tribes, mainly as part of the Ottoman army, along with the Turks and other people, participated in massacres of Armenians. Other Kurds opposed the genocide, in some cases even hiding or adopting Armenian refugees. Also, inmates in Ottoman prisons, including Kurds and Turks, were given amnesty and released from prison if they would massacre the Armenians.

Grand Vizier Mehmed Talat in his Posthumous Memoirs of Talaat Pasha claimed that:

Although we punished many of the guilty, most of them were untouched. These people, whom we might call outlaws, because of their unlawful attitude in disregarding the order of the Central Government, were divided into two classes. Some of them were acting under personal hatred, or for individual profit. Those who l**ted the goods of the deported Armenians were easily punishable, and we punished them. But there was another group, who sincerely believed that the general interest of the community necessitated the punishment alike of those Armenians who massacred the guiltless Mohammedans and those who helped the Armenian bandits to endanger our national life.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Ignorant Trump h**er.