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Feb 11, 2018 13:16:37   #
Larry the Legend wrote:
This quote says it all:

"If you allow yourself to be seduced into this contrived “reality” pushed by MSNBC, CNN, NYT, WashPost and other toxic media outlets, you are subjecting yourself to toxic mental poisons pushed by Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow, Jimmy Kimmel and other purveyors of hatred and falsehood."

What he doesn't say is 'turn it off!'.
Just turn the TV off and it will all start coming together so much clearer. It did for me.

By the way, the news aggregator he recommends, http://censored.news/, looks like a clone of this one http://drudgereport.com/.
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TURN IT OFF !!!!

Best advice for this MSM stuff you'll ever get. So please pay attention.

Thanks Larry.
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Feb 11, 2018 12:37:08   #
Pennylynn wrote:
I know you are talking about mass hypnosis, but I have been hypnotized and while under, I had my wisdom teeth removed without bleeding or pain. In fact, I was aware of everything going on around me. A few years later, I delivered my first under hypnosis... again lacking in blood, pain, and I was up and tending to him in 10 minutes. worked so well, that I routinely use it when I have a headache or can not go to sleep. I have also used acupuncture for minor pain, like when I broke my leg. I do not use pharmaceuticals if they can be avoided, and I find that most of the time (in my case) no store bought medication works better. Plus, I seem to heal quicker than most people. I think this is because I have not interfered with the body's natural responses by slowing the brain's reaction to healing.

I am not saying that I do not recommend doctors or anyone should not take their medications.
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Now this is a proper use of Clinical Hypnosis. And you will certainly be healthier, have healthier children, probably live longer, have less need for dangerous medicines and surgeries, save a lot of money and save your loved ones a lot of worry and stress.

Good for you.
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Feb 11, 2018 12:29:44   #
PLT Sarge wrote:
Well I guess I've been hypnotized. Grew up on a farm, all we had was family. Everything we ate, we grew. Including animals. Chopin and pickin cotton. Still believe everything my Mother taught me how to be a man. Remember everything my Dad told and showed me to be a man. Remember the preacher hell fire and brimstone, and telling what Christ says about being be a man. I spent 38 years of my life in the military because I believed in the hypnosis that raised me. I believe in God, Family and Country. Nothing and no one will change my beliefs.
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This brings up the point of the motivations of the hypnotists.

Your parents are brainwashing/hypnotizing you when you are a small child, in the belief that what they teach you will be for your benefit. They hand you over to the school teachers, religionists, etc. to be further "taught" by people who's real motivations they might not know. Is the teacher a c*******t or the churchman a p*******e?

They do it because of what they have been taught by their parents, teachers and churchmen for purposes they (your parents ) might not really agree with if they truely understood those purposes.

The problem is where and from whom did they learn what they are teaching you. Does the mother/father of a Jihadist teach their son/daughter the perverted ideology that they are said to espouse, (namely k*****g innocent people) because it is in their son's best interests, or because they, the parents have been brainwashed/hypnotized by some crazy "religionist zealot”?

This is why I want people to understand that they think and are what they have been taught/brainwashed by others whose motivations they do not really know.

In my years in the Marine Corps I was brainwashed into glorying in my k*****g of Chinese teen agers, who I didn't know and who had been brainwashed into trying to k**l me and my fellow teen age marines who they didn't know, in a land 1/2 the world away. If that isn't crazy I don't know what is.

Think about it if your brainwashing lets you.
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Feb 10, 2018 22:00:38   #
Recently there was a string asking "Have you been hypnotized."

Of course most of the respondents felt that they had not been hypnotised, or were even not able to be hypnotized.

I keep telling people that most of us are walking around in a hypnotized condition most of the time. People don't want to believe that, but various forms of hypnosis have been used on them by their parents, school teachers, news media (who act as the Government’s major hypnosis team), religion, etc. all their lives.

That is why we have so many “crazy” seeming people posting on this forum, for example. They are that way by design. Other’s design and control, whether it is to sell you breakfast food, a certain car, or a certain politician, or to love or h**e certain others.

Read the article referenced @ https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-02-08-the-goal-of-the-media-is-to-poison-the-minds-of-the-masses-with-toxic-hatred-thought-loops.html
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Feb 7, 2018 14:08:00   #
You folks all have debated what you each think has happened in the past and it is interesting.

But...We have the big question still un-answered....WHAT ARE WE CAPABLE OF DOING ABOUT IT?????

. HOW CAN WE FORCE THE Hoodlums to give up their power and obey the Constitution?
They won’t do it voluntarily.

How can we citizens force the people who have taken over our government to obey any law.
We have no way to get rid of them. (And don’t tell me we can V**E ‘EM OUT. That has no power. You need to be able to Force the will of the people. If you can’t understand that, you might as well give up before you start, cause they can sure force you to obey....at their gun point.)

We have no weapons to use to enforce the Govt. hoods to obey the Constitution.
They, the Govt. hoodlums have armies of legitimate troops as well as “contractors”, armed with the most modern weapons to force us to obey their wishes.
We are essentially kept dumb, confused, sickly and divided.

A revolution today is unthinkable.

So now what?
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Feb 2, 2018 13:03:56   #
For some reason, (probably because they don't really understand what is going on when they are hypnotized, and think that being hypnotized means that they have been "taken over" by the hypnotist, which would be an "unmanly" thing to have happen to them,) men, in particular will claim that they can not be hypnotized.

After an announced "trial of hypnosis", the denial is typical and a protection for their manhood, as much as anything.

If the hypnotist is any good, and wants to check, to what level that you have been hypnotized, he will often give you a post hypnotic suggestion. The suggestion might be that you scratch the side of your nose when he holds up a finger. When he then gives that signal and you scratch, he knows that you were definitely under. (He might then ask you why you scratched your nose, to which you will immediately make up a logical, (or sometimes illogical) answer.

An example of the process of hypnosis might be the "falling asleep" while watching a T.V. program, or while at church. (This is the answer to why T.V. advertising and church are so effective.

There are many different level of hypnotic technique.

You have been hypnotized more times than you can imagine.

Of the patients that I have hypnotized, unless I have instructed them to remember the exact incident as it or at least parts of it played out, more than half the patients have not believed they had been under. Until I scratched my nose, and they immediately did like wise, over and over again.
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Feb 2, 2018 12:32:57   #
proud republican wrote:
This is non-political thread,sense


It was a nonpolitical answer.
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Feb 1, 2018 13:45:45   #
Sorry guys, but you are all hypnotized to some degree. Just look at some of your chosen "beliefs", and try to explain them rationally.

If you are able to be honest with yourself, you will have to admit that you have been hypnotized from your earliest memories to today.
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Jan 25, 2018 15:08:25   #
Pasturized anything has less food value (real nourishment ) than Raw food.

The excuse for pasteurization is that raw food can carry "germs" that are claimed to cause diseases.

The real reason for pasteurization of milk is that pasturized milk can contain 10 times, or in some cases more germs per milliliter and be developed from milk derived from several dairy farms, (mixed milk sources), while Raw milk can only contain 1/10th the germs. In other words pasturized milk can be and often is dirty milk.

Pasteurization also has a much longer shelf life. Great for the stores, not great for the customer.
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Jan 16, 2018 12:45:33   #
eagleye13 wrote:
Most of what you say is true, but not V****g plays into the hands of the PTB.
Ever read None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen?

There is much more than v****g to do. Wake up others. Support those fighting the fight.

BTW: The Good Guys win in the end. It is written.

Ephesians Ch 6:10 to 6:18 > especially 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of the world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Most of what you say is true, but not V****g plays... (show quote)


"There is much more than v****g to do. Wake up others. Support those fighting the fight."

Eagle,

I agree with the need to wake up others.
But to tell them to v**e, when the v****g process has been so corrupted that their v**es don't count? Be sure to wake them up to that also, or they will think that that is all they need do.

In Australia, it was (maybe still is) a criminal offense not to v**e. That should tell you how important getting the suckers to v**e is to the bosses.

I do not advocate not v****g, I advocate understanding what is really goin on.

It really stings the bosses, giving that education to the readers. It shows how important their bosses feel v****g is when you see the final reaction of the Trolls. Notice the last couple of posts by Mann, for example where he changes tactics of appearing as a nice guy and starts the " attack and insult the poster routine" to get the subject of what is wrong with v****g changed to defending yourself from the attacks.

As long as the hoi poloi thinks v****g is eventually going to work, the bosses feel safe.
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Jan 16, 2018 02:57:59   #
Manning345 wrote:
Nevertheless, your line of questioning tags you as trying to undermine our system of v****g in the minds of your audience, wh**ever your stated and actual affiliations. I have my doubts. You are doing a fine job all by yourself.

Most adults have gone through your doubting questions fairly early on, and made a decision to v**e their mind despite the possible difficulties up and down the chain. Most rational people do what they can to support the system and to make it better; and quite obviously some do not.

Further, once you realize that to v**e the man and not the party is often to effectively destroy any chances for a coherent party platform to succeed, as well as your own ideas of what is needed, you then revert to v**e for the closest party and candidates that represent your ideas. This is a system where the majority rules and you want your selected party to be in that majority. Today, that v**e is plainly necessary since the two parties are nearly equal in number, and vastly different in ideology, intent, and even allegiance to our Constitution: a counter v**e is mandatory in this instance. I assume here that the v**er in question has a well-defined agenda he himself supports, and he desires the platform and candidate he v**es for to align with his own agenda in considerable detail. It is apparent, however, that some v**ers have no specific agenda of their own...or an agenda that is off the wall, or even a single issue is all he v**es for.

As for doing research on the candidates, that is a given to the extent you can find reliable information in this era of spin and lies. Most people develop a few well-informed sources whom they trust to help in the whole process. Paying attention to a candidate's promised agenda as he campaigns for office is an excellent guide when the positions stated are very close to your own, or diametrically opposed, and whether you can believe in his success and ability to carry out his promises. This meeting of promises reinforces the necessity for a strong party alignment.

Nothing says you must v**e for someone you believe to be unfit, either, but there are times when you hold your nose and v**e anyway; the gain for the party, and hence your ideas of what is needed, outweighs your objections to a particular candidate. Or, as is sometimes the case, you are v****g against a candidate you do not like for concrete reasons, no matter who the other candidate is ---he must be the better choice! By and large, though, the best results for your ideas to take hold is to v**e for the party candidates you believe in.
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If you like the outcome of following your above described v****g philosophy , then by all means continue to do so. After all, it got us where we are today. Hell, it even got you a mystery monster called Obama, (wh**ever his real name was.) And his handlers.

I do not like the direction we have been going, and I feel that if we do not find a way out of this downhill slide that it can only get worse. Hard to believe the country has come to this.

Look where we have come from in just the short time that I have been alive.

Govt. and bank created inflation has stolen the purchasing power of those who have worked all their lives. In 1950 for example, a pack of cigarettes cost 25cents. Butter was around 25cent a lb. Coffee was 5cents a cup. A candy bar was 5cents. Gas was 27cents a gallon., etc. A decent car sold for about $2500.00.

Average wage was $5,000 per year, and people were living well on that. If you saved ½ your wage and banked it what could you buy with it now, even if you earned 4% interest, as the banks paid in the 1950s. Now if you earn $50,000 per year you can just barely get by.

There was a feeling of hope and freedom. We proudly called ourselves the “Free World”.
You haven’t heard that phrase in many years.

We had a Constitution. Not any more.

Robbers wore masks, screamed “Get Down on the floor”. Today that is our police.

Criminals tortured you. Today that is our Government’s technique.

Peeping Toms were arrested, today they do the arresting.

People expect they and their kids to be k**led ( excuse me “depopulated”) ala Agenda 21, and just close their eyes and dream on.


I could go on and on, but I’m old and tired and I want to go to bed.

I wonder what would happen if they gave a v**e and nobody came?


Yeah, you guys just keep things going as they are. I’m sure your great grand kids will look back on you with great love and fondness for the wonderful world you will leave them.

Just keep doing what you are doing, keep your eyes closed, after all maybe things will change with the next v**e. Look at the great things that have happened with this last v**e.

Welcome to I***topia.
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Jan 15, 2018 11:42:03   #
Manning345 wrote:
This line of questioning seems designed to cause doubt in our system of e******ns that we have had for over 230 years. Furthermore, it reeks of the radical's style of spreading controversy, and doubt in our Constitution and organization. It is very like what Sal Alinsky or Cloward and Piven would create. So let me ask you, Tninksense, are you one of those radicals that wants the American Way of Life rebuilt in your image of a collective government?


Now you are being silly.

If a person states that he v**es the party ticket, what he is really stating is that he is either too dumb or lazy to research the candidates individually, as he was taught to do in junior high civics class. This person announces that he is unfit to v**e.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. This person announces that he is insane.

And you ask me an insulting set of questions, after I have announced myself as belonging to the Group that says “MIND YOU OWN BUSINESS” ? I am a libertarian.

Wow! You will have to do better than that effort to bismirch my name.
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Jan 12, 2018 13:56:46   #
kankune wrote:
Why do you think that Manning has to justify anything to you?? He believes what he believes and has every right to that. He does not have to "justify" his beliefs to you or anyone else.


You are right Cancun, or maybe I should say "Would be right" if we were not talking about what we are and where we are.

He and I are both anonymous posters discussing a point. Nothing can really come back to haunt him from our discussion or my question.

I suggest that v****g is a government con game played on the unthinking citizen, to fool him into believing that bad situations for the citizens can be corrected by v****g. This is done to confuse the average Joe and as long as average Joe doesn’t realize the con, no matter how angry and frustrated Joe becomes, it helps to keep him from joining a bloody r*******n.


He seems not to understand that the v**e doesn’t/can’t work because of the way the v**e is set up and administered.

He has no say in who is offered as a candidate. Doesn’t even know if the candidate has a real existence. (Could be a Disney Cartoon character actor.)

He is not allowed to know any true facts about the candidate’s character or attitude, since the only information he gets is bought and paid for by political funding, paid to the MSM. And we all know how far you can trust the MSM, don’t we?

He has no way to determine if the v**es are counted properly.

YET, HE CLAIMS THAT THE V**E IS REAL, HONEST AND HE HAS “FAITH” IN IT.

Yet Manning seems intelligent. And he finds it impossible to answer my questions, and must change the subject to try to explain himself, by saying he is more comfortable having FAITH.

Faith....a firm belief in something for which there is no proof...Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary.

Something is wrong with this picture and I am trying to find out what and how it came to be. I contend that the “wrong” is because through early educational chicanery our minds and our ability to think rationally (think sense) has been purposely damaged.

I am trying to wake Manning and everyone else who reads this.
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Jan 11, 2018 18:51:38   #
Manning345 wrote:
By your thinking we live in a r****d semi-democracy where the citizens need not v**e because the outcome is foreordained. Platforms mean nothing; the rhetoric is ambivalent; and power is shared in some hidden process not under v**er control; not a government of, for and by the people. That is the antithesis of Constitutional government. Further, we would be helpless to change how things work, and my liturgy of ills I stated before will remain. As it stands, all I do have is one little v**e now and then to try to change things, and even if 75% of the e*****rate v**ed as I do, it would make no real difference.

I will remain true to my belief in our republic and I will v**e for what I believe is right. You are welcome to your lack of faith; I choose to be with, by and for the people; and with the Constitution.
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Manning,

You still have managed to avoid discussing the very nature and sense of the v**e.

You give me your feelings and faiths, but don’t explain why you have these feelings and faiths.

If you have no personal knowledge of the people allowed to run for office.

If you can not trust the news media to be honest in the things they tell you about the candidates.

If you have no way of assuring the honesty of the v**e count, how can you believe that you can change the way things are by v****g?

Why would you believe that v****g would result in actual change? Have you ever seen that happen?

How could you enforce the Govt. to follow the v**e?

How can you believe the things you state above? These faiths you claim, how do you justify them?

That is all I ask. Is that too hard to do?
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Jan 10, 2018 19:10:00   #
Manning345 wrote:
On v****g: as a Conservative I tend to follow the Republican party line as it is the best bet to realize my objectives. It is virtually impossible for me to properly vet an individual candidate all by myself, especially when the noise from the opposition drowns out other voices. My faith in the v****g process grows as the v**er margin for my candidates grow; and it suffers when the margin is razor thin.

On government, it is again my Conservatism that bemoans the outsized bureaucracy, the Progressive and Liberal damage done; the real decrease in Freedom and Liberty that has t***spired; the irrational attacks on Christianity and the Constitution, the Moral Relativity of Liberals and Progressives; the entire idea of M**************m and Diversity; the Ruination of our schools and the Minds of our Children; the Tax and Spend predilection of Democrats; the downsizing of our Military; the Obstructionism of Democrats against fixing real problems in an effective way; the real push to marginalize the Family as the Main building block of our society; the use of Alinsky/Gramsci/Cloward-Piven trilogy to undermine our society and prepare the way for a Socialist or Marxist/C*******tic takeover; the Penetration of Islam into the Nation with it growing threats of Sharia; I could go on for a long time. When a candidate seems to stand up strongly against these devastating ills, he gets my v**e.
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Mann,
All the things you point out that you find bad, I have to agree with....However my questions were about the very concept of v****g.

I contend that as long as people pretend to believe that v****g in the way it is carried on in this country will ever really change anything, NOTHING will change. It will, as it has, just gradually keep getting worse.

Yes, it is nice to "believe" that the candidates are different from each other, and that it is possible to v**e out the bums and get honest intelligent people to run the government. But I challenge anyone reading this to give me even one example where that has happened in the last 100 or more years. Anywhere in the world.

And because people don't want to go to active war with their government for various reasons (that I will let you imagine) they lie to themselves, telling themselves that the "next ellection" will see the bums v**ed out and honest people v**ed in.

That has never happened, nor will it ever.

Whether Republicrat or Demican they all are under complete control or they will never get to run. And if they get in and don't follow what they are told to do, they are errased in one way or another. Yes if the role they have been given is to pretend that they are honest, god fearing reformers they will get the kind of publicity, including pretending that the MSM is against them. In Russia and N**i Germany and in other dictatorships, the government creates the very groups that "fight " the government. From the most vociferous "Revolutionary" to the "reform politician" who promises to "drain the swamp.

It is all F**E.



Those of you, who refuse to see that are worse than blind, and part of the problem.
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