2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland

In all my years of having been in the Corps and what have you, I have never been so concerned about THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA as I am now! I have to believe that all of this crap has been going on before I was even born! How in the world did all of this S******n and Treason ever come about? As far as Im concerned, this is not a right or left issue, though I do fear that its been mostly on the Democratic side with some Republican assistance over the many years. The Democrats have always been the party of r****t division as far as I know. Did all of this happen at the very beginning of our nation state? Perhaps Im either not as well informed as I thought I was or perhaps a mixture of that as well as some ignorance on my part. Please dont tell me this all started at the MayFlower landing as the Colonists were running away from tryanny under the king of England. So when did all of this start? Please, I would like to have a serious discussion about all of this. Please.
Semper FI

https://youtu.be/pySsViFqQYQ

PeterS

How can you have a serious discussion when the first thing you do is point your finger at the opposing side. If you want to know what's wrong with the country then stand up and take a bow because you nailed it right there.

Have fun getting serious with your conservative friends. Maybe you can build a boat and go play in the pond...

okie don

Tap,
I hear 'ya
It's a long story.

glibona Loc: Nevada

I hear ya too Tap... good topic for serious discussion.

RETW Loc: Washington

In other words, you can't answer the question. No surprise there.


So tell us all, why does there have to be an opposing side? Why is there not just the right side?

bggamers Loc: georgia

How bout no ones real sure when it started but in most of human history there has always been those who would cut their brothers throat for the right price. What you see now is a purging. This is some thing this country has needed for some time its not a right or left its the ones who have committed treason and other illegal acts all need to to be put in jail. Hope we can get good people to help this country. It happens when employers get lazy and do not monitor their people. We are the lazy employers there needs to be accountability for these politicians at this time there is no way to make them do the job we send them to do.Right now there is a convention of states this is how the states can bring the federal goverment under control. Several of the thing they want to install is term limits for congress ect. Also to make it so there is no excepting money from lobbyist and not being able to become a lobbyist till after they have been out of goverment employment I think for 5 years I know this was some thing Trump wanted as well. You might want to look into it if you feel the need to get involved and try to make a change.

PeterS

Because we don't all share the same ideology and never have. As for answering the question he didn't ask a question that he actually wanted a answer to. Politically we've fraught like cats and dogs from day one. Hell we even once started a civil war. If he knows anything about our history he should know that. What about today has him so worried...liberals and RINO's??? If that's the case that's nothing compared to our past...

meridianlesilie Loc: mars

well the swam p is going to start draining soon !!!

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

Easy, Logical, and Common Sence Answer.
Old money always has and always will control this country.
Does not matter which party you sopport.
Just look at the stock market. 5% of the players can take 75% of the profits and still keep the growth at 20% while eating up 95% of all the new investments.
Insider trading is an art, a sk**l that is perfected daily to avoid being called illegal.

okie don

Tap, bet ya didn't know that following the Revolutionary War a secret session of Congress was held and we agreed to pay England 600,000# silver.(:

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

This is a defining time for the country,a group of people have tried to o*******w our government and if they aren’t severely dealt with the next step will be blood in the streets.We can not have a government without laws and if allowed too get away with this attempted takeover there will be civil unrest like we have never seen in this country.There are millions of Americans that will die before their freedom is taken away.

okie don

The decision was to be kept secret. Ben Franklins grand son published this and the people were upset. This is where the term s******n came from as a Judge ruled same.

okie don

The question is if We won the war, why did we agree to pay 'r********ns' to England?
That's why we live on an English Plantation. Like your property rental taxes?Nice huh!!!(:

okie don

Like I told you on a PM,It's a long story we were not told.
Like Einstein said: " You don't know, what you don't know"(:

rebob14

Actually, this tendency has always existed in the human psyche. If you read the history of the major societies, they all fell for essentially the same reason; certain mindsets can only assuage their fear by exerting control over others. As soon as a population becomes large and prosperous enough, fear and greed provide the setting for exploitation and control. Read the founders comments re: diligence and honor, sacrifice and courage. More currently, read Frederick Bastiot’s short booklet, The Law, about Fabian Socialism in France in the 1840’s. As modern day Americans, it is particularly painful to realize what has been done to our culture while we slept. Two old axioms apply: “all politics is local”, and “this union can only be destroyed from within”.