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May 13, 2020 08:03:21   #
teabag09 wrote:
If during you life you've had a cold or the flu you will test positive as having had a Corno v***s. The tests do not show if it is 19, just Corno. This is a h**x perpetuated by Bill Gates, Dr. Fuchi, Soros and the NWO to push v*****es and also to bring the West to it's knees.

If you want to take v*****es and you want a corrupt Government to spy and control you, that's your choice, it's not mine and I'll fight to the death if I'm subjected to it. Mike


Who said anything about a v*****e? What I was saying that it doesn't require a chip to make sure if you come down with something that can get others sick it is better to know where and when it started. That way a reaction can be started. So by you're last statement if you come down say food poison that can get bad enough to k**l , then you have no problem with having others die because you want your privacy to be the top concern. I know you are famliar with the line from a Christmas Carol, so let people die it will lower the over population problem. It a paraphrase not a exact repeat. But I think you will be able to get the idea.
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May 11, 2020 20:42:33   #
woodguru wrote:
What does that mean, hopefully nothing happens? There is only one thing that can happen, we know what that is, a new wave that is bigger than the first one because we weren't even close to having a handle on this, that and the lamest possible guidance and rules for doing this carefully.


Just what l said hope it doesn't happen, not that it won't. Since the opening of the country isn't handled carefully with some control it will start up again this time it will also include those who didn't catch c***d the first time. Reports also have stated that herd immunity may not even factor in.
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May 11, 2020 19:27:15   #
Rose42 wrote:
Oh yes it is. Its much different. And now there is technology that can track you. Thankfully, most are saying no thanks to this technology. For now anyway.

How about tracking for other diseases? For suspicious people? How about we just track and record everything to be analyzed to make sure we are all "good citizens"? Where will the line be drawn?


Have you heard of salmonella, when it happens it needs to be traced from where it came from, or more people will get sick.
Have you heard of a bolo it is short hand for be on the lookout for.
For suspicious people why do you think people set up neighborhood watches.
As for technology-based tracking it is available the only thing that controls it are the requirements that have to be met.

I didn't say that it is not ripe for abuse. What I was pointing at it will be good to know how many people are sick and where. That is the only way you can get a trend on the disease so it can be handled better.
Most of the comments made are that the info is wrong that it is being used to scare, which in some cases it is. Like I mentioned earlier when a unknown is presented it is better to respond with a worst case scenario in a step movement you make sure the response of the different agencies is up to the task, then if needed you start to take steps for controlling the problem.
The line drawn that depends on you , me and everyone else who can help make a decsion that benefits the many not the few.
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May 11, 2020 08:18:49   #
solarkin wrote:
this is way different


No it is not , you agree that something did put people into the hospital correct? Now the country is slowly being opened up , hopefully nothing happens. In case the v***s, flu or wh**ever you want to call it. Starts up again how many more people will be infected or reinfected. You have to count those who were never sick they will also catch it. Nowhere has it been said that the antibodies provide herd immunity . This last statement about herd immunity if I'm wrong set me straight. The statement is based on what I have read.
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May 11, 2020 08:06:41   #
dtucker300 wrote:
Yup, there is always someone available to say they were misunderstood or taken out of context. It's never difficult to find these people in D.C. They are everywhere. Pffft!


It is in all levels too.
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May 11, 2020 08:00:29   #
solarkin wrote:
And everybody is screaming yes yes yes
Do contact tracing
you don't know what your asking for


Some don't , but the process is the same as that which was used during the presenting cases of HIV. If you were found to have it then everyone that you had contact with was asked and checked.That is the first step to get things under control. Loss of privacy yeah a whole lot of it , it was better then your one act of experimentation or life style.It also lead to the finding that the blood supply had been contaminated.
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May 9, 2020 13:36:15   #
Parky60 wrote:
Are these the same "scientists" and "experts" who predicted that millions were going to die. Could it be that these "experts" are the same ones who predicted that Hillary was going to win by a landslide? OMG...a conspiracy theory!


When something new rears its head it is best to use worst case reaction so that you will be ready if it takes a turn in that direction. Which is better then low or no response. As for considering the e******n she did win but as for a landslide it was close , but since we don't select the govenment by using the popular v**e. Its a useless example, anyway who is to say that Clinton may have not done a better job of it. Or least a different result.
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May 5, 2020 22:13:34   #
Elwood wrote:
https://100percentfedup.com/why-are-number-of-c****-**-deaths-suddenly-cut-almost-in-half-on-cdc-website/

My take is that a lot of the deaths attributed to the c****av***s were actually from pre-existing conditions.


Proably most of the deaths were from complications, this is from a friend who caught it and made it through. His take was he was doing OK until he got congested almost had to go to Er. Since his wife caught it two days later they were together. Anyway she suggested using a decongestant so it got better.
So since the v***s was new there wasn't any procedure to follow so the hospital staff went to default treatments. As the days went by experience showed different methods could be used.
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May 5, 2020 20:22:03   #
1ProudAmerican wrote:
1ProudAmerican wrote:
The Constitution provides, in express terms, that the President, as well as the Vice-President and ****all civil officers****, may be impeached for “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

Now if THAT doesn't have a B_U_N_C_H of DemonRat names all over it



And what does that have to do with the DemonRat slime living in the swamp today???


You are right that is what it says the only difinition given is for treason, the other are not defined. So since the entire sequence for Impreachment is two Steps, the first step is to agree on charges which they were , h**x or not the charges were chosen. Which lead to his impeachment. The second step is removal ,censure or the decision of innocence. So basically the record will show that he was impeached but not removed.
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May 4, 2020 07:41:12   #
BearK wrote:
Up front - my dad was one of five siblings, and grew up to be the only Republican in the family. BUT, back then, family meant more than party. Today, it appears to me, people have lost sight of priorities for WHAT!, A POLITICAL PARTY AFFILIATION?

No doubt there are many of you who feel 'family first,' and have priorities that far out-weigh the nonsense of "Party Affiliation." I would like to hear your opinions.


Me it is family first , then country , party line is dead last.
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May 4, 2020 07:29:03   #
American Vet wrote:
From Bill O'Reilly

During a dinner with President Trump a few months ago, I expressed regret to him for the general behavior of the press in America. I did this not to pander to the President, but to discuss the disintegration of decorum that, as an American, disturbs me.

In the past, most credible journalists respected the office of the presidency, if not the person inhabiting it. President Nixon strained that respect as correspondents like Dan Rather openly loathed the man. But even Mr. Rather brought a modicum of respect to his White House beat.

In 1992, NBC News reporter Stone Phillips interviewed President Bush the Elder in the White House. Using a poorly sourced newspaper allegation that alleged Mr. Bush had committed adultery, the journalist confronted the President.

Phillips: “Have you ever had an affair?”

President Bush: “I’m not going to take any sleaze questions. I gave you a little warning. You see you’re perpetuating the sleaze by even asking the question - to say nothing of asking it in the Oval Office. And I don’t think you ought to do that and I’m not going to answer the question.”

Stone Phillips backed off and the appropriateness of the question was widely debated. To me, a journalist who has interviewed six Presidents, Mr. Bush was correct; the White House is the wrong place to attempt a tabloid exposition.

Today, many media people do not respect Donald Trump and, by extension, the position he holds or the place where he lives. The h**e-Trump press explains its conduct by pointing to the President’s deficits. They attempt to justify their bad behavior by pointing to his bad behavior - as if a third grade rationalization excuses the media’s gross disrespect for the Executive branch.

Americans elect presidents and once that happens the person assuming the office should be afforded a blanket of respect simply for holding the position. The presidency is the apex of our republic, something President Bush well understood.

In the summer of 2007, I interviewed then Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee for President. The chat was in York, Pennsylvania and was lively, to say the least. I challenged the senator and did not let him dodge. I had no problem describing some of his positions as misguided.

The next time I interviewed Mr. Obama he was President and we were in the White House. Whole new ballgame. My questions were still challenging but my tone was more measured. I mean, I couldn’t imply he was a pinhead as I can with senators and congresspeople. His status as the head of the country meant I had to respect his office.

And I did.

I remember getting a flood of letters from anti-Obama people accusing me of being “too soft” on Mr. Obama. These critics wanted rhetorical blood. But that would have not only have been disrespectful to him, but to the country.

By the way, the three chats I had with President Obama were the toughest interviews he saw. Check them out.

Today, President Trump is obviously not afforded respect by the media. Many in the White House press corps have been encouraged by their corporate masters to make Mr. Trump look bad. Legitimate questions are often asked in blatantly hostile tones. It’s wrong.

Americans deserve accountability from all presidents and the job of the press is to seek clarity and t***h. But that’s not what’s going on today. It’s “get” Trump all day, every day.

Respect for the office of the presidency has vanished and it is unseemly. Donald Trump was awarded his job by the people. To not respect that is to insult the people.

And that’s what’s happening.
From Bill O'Reilly br br During a dinner with Pre... (show quote)


I agree the office should be respected. The one thing about respect is that it also has to be given. The old saying respect has to be earned comes to mind.
That said using school yard nicknames doesn't show respect.
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May 3, 2020 13:46:16   #
lindajoy wrote:
Do you know what became glaringly obvious about this p******c? Trump said we have not had any review or revisions to our emergency p******c measures in 50 to 60 years. How is that possible when the people we elect are elected to protect our country and its citizens. How do we go through different p******c situations year after year and not restock a stockpile obviously needed every time we get hit. It’s not like we haven’t gone through this enough times and should be experienced enough to know what is necessary!

From federal government to our state government representatives no one, thinks or thought about replenishing supplies or emergency equipment or even the simple necessity of masks? Didn’t know what we had? Why the hell not? Why do we wait until its here to be running like chickens with our heads cut off to by the necessary equipment we should already have stockpiled and already have available. That is the horrific error of our elected officials. Yes the federal was wrong and so are the state representatives wrong, dead wrong as a matter fact...
While I am not blaming Obama, let’s use his p******c as a perfect example in having to run around scurrying around as he had to Do, only to then leave our stock pile completely depleted. Is it not common sense to understand the absolute necessity in the emergency tools needed to include an updated worldwide p******c agreement? If nothing else I was extremely pleased to hear Trump say that will be corrected!!!

And I’m not talking about UN agreement who has their own agenda or the WHO, tied to the UN with their own agreement and agenda. Countries actually speak with each other anymore and we should take it upon ourselves to open dialogue with every single country so we can get an agreement between us and what will be done in the event of another p******c situation. Politics be damned let’s do what’s right for a change and keep the friggin politicians out of it.
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As much as it sounds like a blaming report
First review
Friday, Jan. 13, 2017: The joint Obama-Trump t***sition teams run an exercise for p******c preparedness.

Second review
October 2019: The Trump administration concludes a months-long simulation, code-named “Crimson Contagion,” designed to respond to a global influenza p******c. The Department of Health and Human Services determines that the U.S. is underprepared, underfunded, and under-coordinated to fight an influenza-like p******c.

Could be considered a third review
15 September 18, 2018: President Trump issues a P**********l Memorandum and National Biodefense Strategy designed to ensure a comprehensive and coordinated approach to biological incidents.

As to supplies
September 2018: The Department of Health and Human Services diverts funding from the CDC to pay for housing detained immigrant children.
A The same month: The Trump administration fails to follow through with an Obama-era project designed to protect against medical supply shortages during p******cs.
https://www.justsecurity.org/69650/timeline-of-the-c****av***s-p******c-and-u-s-response/

As for this to be the ultimate t***h the first can't be verified because of the word reportedly, the second can be.
While the government does not publicize all of the contents of the repository, at the time Trump took office, the Strategic National Stockpile, as it is formally known, reportedly contained vast amounts of materials that state and local health officials could use during an emergency, including v*****es, antiv***l drugs, ventilators and protective gear for doctors and nurses.

“The SNS was definitely not an empty shell,” Dr. Tara O’Toole, a former homeland security official during the Obama administration who is now the executive vice president at the nonprofit strategic investment firm In-Q-Tel, told us in an email.
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/national-international/fact-check-trump-falsely-claims-he-inherited-empty-stockpile/2215454/

This I just threw in
Fox news reporter asked about the p******c team?
https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/trump-lies-cutting-white-house-p******c-team-dodge-checks-notes-fox-news/
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May 3, 2020 02:01:13   #
newbear wrote:
zombinis3,

What does 'an exercise for p******c preparedness' look like?

Any specific p******c is brand new phenomenon requiring different counter-measures due to varying and unpredictable severity, not to mention velocity.

I do believe you understand the complexities involved, but there are overtones of an agenda in your writing.


The same as holding fire drills, causality drills on board ship , during the cold war which kids were told to dunk and cover. It is used to check and see if there are any weakness in the response. Also it is used to make sure everyone knows what to do in accordance to their position. If any weakness is found the weakness should be corrected. In this case the t***sition team probably sat around a table and talked about it . Like I said earlier this was a new v***s so all they had were default actions. If you read overtones of a agenda you were right but it was not toward anything other then making sure that the country and its citizens were safe.
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May 2, 2020 22:06:37   #
lindajoy wrote:
Its been in circulation for some time, its ignored as it doesn’t fit the time line narrative they want and as for F***i, I do not trust the man, his CDC and especially not the WHO...The political outreach here works to no ones advantage but their agenda!


As untrustworthy as f***i,cdc and the who may seem. It seems that the three are the only stable infomation sources out there. Yes mistake were made from all but since this v***s was pretty much unknown default suggestions were made. Some have proven workable others have effects that have bad results. If opening up the country it should be done like a off ramp from the freeway with limited choices and with set policies. Not like the on ramp to the freeway where choices are many .
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May 2, 2020 16:18:44   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
As late as Feb 29 Trump had scientists like F***i saying it was nothing more than a strong flu and the effects would be minuscule compared to the seasonal flu. I don't believe was can expect Trump to have been smarter than the experts he was told he wasn't listening to, when he actually was.


This is what was said ;
On Feb. 29, F***i gave an interview on the NBC morning talk show “Today,” during which he stated that at that moment in time, “the risk is still low, but this could change.”

“I’ve said that many times even on this program,” F***i stated in that interview. “You’ve got to watch out because although the risk is low now, you don’t need to change anything you’re doing. When you start to see community spread, this could change and force you to become much more attentive to doing things that would protect you from spread.”

The situation with C****-** in the United States was indeed drastically different on Feb. 29 than it was in mid-April.

By 3/02/2020 6 cases were reported by CDC
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