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Does it not infuriate you to see politicians such as Corey Booker and the other Democrats and Republicans who v**ed against this bill, use such asinine excuses to justify their screwing of the American people?

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I think that Stefan Molyneux does a great job answering this question, or at least focusing the problem that exists today with the immigrants coming from the middle east. https://youtu.be/6b0bIEMsHwM

The US Healthcare system is the most expensive of the developed nations. While there may be numerous reasons for this, let's examine just one for now.

In mid-January, Bernie Sander's proposal to make drug imports from Canada legal was v**ed down in the Senate 52-46, with 13 Democrats v****g against his bill. Notable among the Democrats was Corey Booker, who also happens to be one of the largest recipients of Big Pharma campaign contributions.

According to the post in Jesse's Cafe Americain site, "Booker used the Big Pharma talking point that 'the bill did not include provisions requiring the protections of the FDA.'

Oh really? We think that the Canadian government's regulation of medicine is weaker than in the US? Please, Cory, tell us exactly where they fall down on the job.

And oh by the way, most it not all of those drugs are the same drugs being sold in the US by the same manufacturers, so the point could be moot. Just allow the imports of drugs the FDA has already approved.

But a real solution, which appears to be far too much for our pampered plutocrats, would be to repeal the US law that prohibits Medicare from negotiating drug prices as is done by the government health services in Canada. But I would not expect the US political establishment to seriously consider overturning that sweet monopoly deal with the drug companies."

Take a look at the chart below compiled by Bernie Sanders comparing drug prices for identical drugs sold here in the US vs. Canada. If this does not make your blood boil, then I suggest you no longer have a pulse!

Check out the short video by the "Young Turks" as they discuss this issue singling out for special mention "€œthat weasel Cory Booker" and his "€œtreachery." https://youtu.be/BEAB9aXXcwU

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Great video Eagleye13. The statement made by General Wesley Clark at the 19:00 minute mark 10 days after 9-11 should be enough for every thinking, aware American to appreciate this problem for what it is.

Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard just returned from a secret trip to Syria and gave an interview to Jake Tapper at infamous CNN. There are NO MODERATE rebel groups in Syria.

https://youtu.be/NRVcLS-EHJU

"We are a nation of immigrants.. but we are a nation of laws"

"Our nation is rightly disturbed by the large numbers of i*****l a***ns entering our country...

I*****l i*******ts take jobs from citizens or legal immigrants, they impose burdens on our taxpayers...

That is why we are doubling the number of border guards, deporting more i*****l i*******ts than ever before, cracking down on illegal hiring, barring benefits to i*****l a***ns, and we will do more to speed the deportation of i*****l i*******ts arrest for crimes...

It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our i*********n l*ws that has occurred in the last few years.. and we must do more to stop it."


OK now..... who made these statements?

[quote=roadster]V***r F***d? Another who do you listen to? Certainly, a review of our Constitution, including Amendments, with a little (uncommon) common-sense and we could come-up with an answer.

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Roadster,
In addition to the previous issues that I raised previously, I would like to know if you watched the video "Hacking Democracy". If not, I urge you to watch a brief segment at this link. https://youtu.be/t75xvZ3osFg

Here is what the video will discuss: "The disturbingly shocking HBO documentary HACKING DEMOCRACY bravely tangles with our nation’s ills at the heart of democracy. The film the Diebold corporation doesn’t want you to see, this revelatory journey follows tenacious Seattle grandmother Bev Harris and her band of extraordinary citizen-activists as they set out to ask one simple question: How does America count its v**es? From Florida and California to Ohio and Washington State, filmmakers Simon Ardizzone, Russell Michaels and Robert Cohen starkly reveal a broken system riddled with secrecy, incompetent e******n officials, and electronic v****g machines that can be programmed to steal e******ns. Equipped only with a powerful sense of righteous outrage, the activists take on v****g machine industry, exposing alarming security holes in America’s trusted v****g machines. They even go dumpster diving at a county e******n official’s office in Florida, uncovering incendiary evidence of miscounted v**es. But proving our v**es can be stolen without a trace culminates in a duel between Diebold v****g machines and a computer hacker from Finland – with America’s democracy at stake."

If this does not convince you that we have a real problem with our v****g process, then I urge you to watch the short video called "Fraction Magic" which you can watch here: https://youtu.be/8ezmpqwVEnM

You should also check out the site BlackBoxV****g.org ( http://blackboxv****g.org/fraction-magic-1/ ). Here is a summary of what they have found:

"This report summarizes the results of our review of the GEMS e******n management system, which counts approximately 25 percent of all v**es in the United States. The results of this study demonstrate that a fractional v**e feature is embedded in each GEMS application which can be used to invisibly, yet radically, alter e******n outcomes by pre-setting desired v**e percentages to redistribute v**es. This tampering is not visible to e******n observers, even if they are standing in the room and watching the computer. Use of the decimalized v**e feature is unlikely to be detected by auditing or canvass procedures, and can be applied across large jurisdictions in less than 60 seconds.

gems-usaGEMS v**e-counting systems are and have been operated under five trade names: Global E******n Systems, Diebold E******n Systems, Premier E******n Systems, D******n V****g Systems, and E******n Systems & Software, in addition to a number of private regional subcontractors. At the time of this writing, this system is used statewide in Alaska, Connecticut, Georgia, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Utah and Vermont, and for counties in Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming. It is also used in Canada.

Fractionalized v**e:
Instead of “1” the v**e is allowed to be 1/2, or 1+7/8, or any other value that is not a whole number.
What fractionalized v**es can do:

They allow “weighting” of races. Weighting a race removes the principle of “one person-one v**e” to allow some v**es to be counted as less than one or more than one. Regardless of what the real v**es are, candidates can receive a set percentage of v**es. Results can be controlled. For example, Candidate A can be assigned 44% of the v**es, Candidate B 51%, and Candidate C the rest.
GEMS fractionalizes v**es in three places:

The “Summary” v**e tally, which provides overall e******n totals for each race on E******n Night
The “Statement of V**es Cast”, which provides detailed results by precinct and v****g method (ie. Polling, absentee, early, provisional)

The “underv**e” count

Fractions in results reports are not visible.V**es containing decimals are reported as whole numbers unless specifically instructed to reveal decimals (which is not the default setting). All evidence that fractional values ever existed can be removed instantly even from the underlying database using a setting in the GEMS data tables, in which case even instructing GEMS to show the decimals will fail to reveal they were used.

Source code: Instructions to treat v**es as decimal values instead of whole numbers are inserted multiple times in the GEMS source code itself; thus, this feature cannot have been created by accident.

Fractionalizing the v**es which create the Summary Results allows alteration of E******n Night Web results and results sent to the Secretary of State, as well as results available at and local e******n officials.
Fractionalizing the “Statement of V**es Cast” allows an extraordinary amount of precision, enabling alteration of results by specific v****g machine, absentee batch, or precinct. V**e results can be altered for polling places in predominantly Black neighborhoods, and can parse out precincts within a mixed batch of early or absentee v**es.

Fractionalizing the underv**e category allows reallocation of valid v**es into underv**es.

V****g rights a*********n

According to programmer notes, a weighted race feature was designed which not only gives some v**es more weight than others, but does so based on the v**er’s identity. B****ts are connected to v**ers, weights are assigned to each v**er per race, stored in an external table not visible in GEMS. Our testing shows that one v**e can be counted 25 times, another only one one-thousandth of a time, effectively converting some v**es to zero.

The study was prompted by two issues: (1) Anomalies in e******ns in Shelby County, Tennessee, which uses the GEMS e******n management system, in which inconsistencies were observed in reporting of results by GEMS; and (2) Concerns raised regarding the presence of middlemen during the e******n process, such that a single individual gains remote access to the e******n management program, in some cases in multiple jurisdictions.

The questions we examine are these:
Can e******n outcomes be controlled with enough versatility to allow a national impact? Does any mechanism exist that would enable a political consultant or technician to capture e******ns for repeat customers?
If the necessary features exist within the e******n management system to facilitate this:
Were such features embedded accidentally or on purpose; for what stated purpose were such features installed; if a reason was given, is that reason justifiable?

Bottom line, we need a thorough investigation and a plan of action on how to make our v****g process secure, and unable to be hacked or affected by fraud.

Pennylynn wrote:
It is time to review v***r r**********n and require identification for v****g. And it is constitutional: In Crawford v. Marion County E******n Board (2007), the Supreme Court upheld an Indiana state law that required all v**ers to present a photo ID. The majority opinion found that the burden placed on v**ers was “offset by the benefit of reducing the risk of fraud” and that the law was “eminently reasonable.”

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I am very much in agreement with you on this. I personally would be in favor of requiring a fingerprint and or picture of each v**er that could be tied back into his or her v**e. This would by itself reduce fraud because there would be a paper trail in which violators could be prosecuted for v***r f***d.

I cannot understand why any law abiding citizen would object to such a common sense requirement. After all, you need to show ID proof to get a drivers license, why not do the same when you v**e.

I hear and read calls from minorities claiming that this is v**er intimidation. If you are one of those individuals, please explain to me your rationale. I cannot understand that fear or concern, and I really want to know your basis for objecting to what Pennylynn or I would be suggesting.

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You make a good point. I personally believe that Trump should have released his tax return information during the campaign, irrespective of his audit situation. At this point however, he has been elected president of the United States. What would be the purpose of those seeking this information now? I suspect that it would be to find something, anything, in which to criticize, demean, or an attempt to diminish his standing with the American public.

Can you honestly say that is not the hidden motive behind most of these calls for financial t***sparency?

It is a shame that our country has become so polarized that politics has become a blood sport. Perhaps it has always been that way.

President Trump has claimed that he would have won the popular v**e had it not been for the fact of 3-5 million illegal v**es in favor of Hillary Clinton.

The Think Progress web site however states: "The notion that v***r f***d exists on a significant scale is one of the Trump administration’s “alternative facts.” According to a Washington Post analysis, out of the more than 135 million v**ers cast in the 2016 p**********l e******n, just four cases of v***r f***d were found — and three of the culprits v**ed Republican."

OK folks, we have a pretty wide disparity of opinion on the issue of "V***r F***d" and the need for "V***r R**********n Reform.

Here is what a 2012 press release by Pew Center on the States (a division of the Pew Charitable Trust, a "nonprofit organization that applies a rigorous, analytical approach to improve public policy, inform the public, and stimulate civic life") had to say on this problem back in 2012:

* Approximately 24 million v***r r**********ns in the United States—one of every eight—are no longer valid or have significant inaccuracies, according to the Pew Center on the States’ E******n Initiatives.

* At least 51 million eligible citizens remain unregistered—more than 24 percent of the eligible population.

* Nearly 2 million deceased individuals are listed as v**ers.

* Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.

* About 12 million records have incorrect addresses, meaning either the v**ers moved, or errors in the information make it unlikely any mailings can reach them.

“V***r r**********n is the gateway to participating in our democracy, but these antiquated, paper-based systems are plagued with errors and inefficiencies,” said David Becker, director of E******n Initiatives at the Pew Center on the States. “These problems waste taxpayer dollars, undermine v**er confidence, and fuel partisan disputes over the integrity of our e******ns.”

What has our government done to correct the fraud and v***r r**********n issues cited in this report since 2012. You guessed it - very, very little.

Is President Trump correct in his statement concerning the 3-5 million illegal v**es? Maybe, we simply do not really know the extent of the problem, and we should.

His call for an investigation and recommendation on action to correct the flaws in our current system is warranted. The integrity of the v****g process is critical to the proper functioning of our representative democracy.


https://web.archive.org/web/20120303020411/http://www.pewcenteronthestates.org/news_room_detail.aspx?id=85899370596

Raylan Wolfe wrote:
1/27/2017: TRUMP starts in the hole as US v**ers disapprove; Quinnipiac Poll finds Obama and Reagan are the best presidents in 70yrs!

That just goes to show how clueless the majority of the American public is, and how ignorant they are of foreign affairs. "Throughout his eight years as President of the United States, Obama exhibited many symptoms of PMSP (Political Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy)- both abroad and in the US. For his cynical crimes, he was awarded the ‘Nobel Peace Prize’ among other honors.

Each of Obama’s relentless military interventions, including Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and especially Syria, were characterized by the deliberate and total destruction of the means of normal civilized social existence for defenseless civilians - the bombing of homes, factories, markets, weddings, funerals, schools, hospitals - leading to the deaths of many thousands and the uprooting of millions into desperate flight. In each case, Obama would proclaim that he was saving the victims from imminent genocide by an abusive ruler or ethnic group. He would rush in to provide a few baskets of relief and a few blankets to some bed**ggled survivors of his own bombing campaigns and bask in the glowing praise of mass media propagandists and fellow imperialists. Choreographed applause and adulation would seem to follow America’s First Black President everywhere.
Obama’s bombs, arms and mercenaries drove hundreds of thousands of families into the streets, into the mountains and most horrifically onto rickety, overloaded boats on the seas. In each series of destruction and chaos, he would calculate the point at which his ‘humanitarian intervention’ would most effectively reflect on his heroism.

He destroyed the entire nation of Libya, shredded its institutions and infrastructure, bombed its cities and villages, even deliberately sending a deadly missile into the home sheltering a half dozen of President Muammar Gadaffi’s small grandchildren and finally ended up with the public death by torture of the wounded Libyan president sodomized by stakes documented in a imperial-pornographic snuff film that should have revolted the entire world. That the main victims of Obama’s ‘liberation of Libya’ were hundreds of thousands of black Libyan citizens and sub-Saharan African workers did little to detract from his public persona as the first ‘African American’ world hero. The capsized boatloads of fleeing black Libyans and the bloated bodies washing ashore on the beaches of Spain and Italy were never linked to the criminal policies of our Nobel Prize recipient! He even urged Europe to accept the miserable refugees fleeing his war - in a gesture of supreme PMSP. He could do no wrong. This serial political k**ler had an unquenchable thirst for sympathy and admiration - and a wholly corrupt propaganda machine to polish his halo."

And this is the man that the poll finds to be one of the best presidents in the past 70 years. Really pathetic!

To all those Obama supporters - please feel free to comment on his statement that we are better off now than 8 years ago. Please document your sources.

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You probably have heard all the spin on how much the information that Chelsea Manning leaked to Wikileaks hurt US National Security. All the news heads talked about lives being lost, and assets c*********d. But in his court martial, no evidence was ever presented about any lives being lost by the information Manning turned over to Wikileaks .

The real story that is overlooked by the media is the coverup by the US military of war crimes and atrocities that our government does not want you to know about, or think about. After all, if you really thought about the possible 2 million lives lost by US actions in the mid-east, you might have a real problem with that. Or perhaps not. Perhaps you drape yourself with the US f**g, and take the attitude, US right or wrong. I'll just close my eyes and pretend that these things did not really happen.

The other real story that is not being covered is the war on whistle-blowers, without which we would never be aware of what Wikileaks reported. During Obama's presidency, he prosecuted 8 whistle-blowers. While it is still to early to make a judgement on Trump, prior statements by Trump on Manning and Snowden suggest that he will be no different from president Obama.

Listen to this 16 minute recap of what Manning brought to the attention of the American public. He spent 7 years of his life in jail for bring this to your attention. What would you have done in his place, seeing what he was seeing, and knowing that these crimes against humanity were being covered up, and shoved under the rug.

http://www.newsbud.com/2017/01/26/chelsea-manning-the-war-crimes-of-empire/

Good one!

[quote=PeterS]I was listening to the news today two union officials, one with steel and the other t***sportation, were both glowing with praise for our fearless leader. I have to say, while I have trouble stomaching the POS that we elected president, I have to say his embrace of unions is appreciated.

I am pleased to read your post. You are fair enough to compliment Trump on an action that he has taken that is beneficial to our economy, it's citizens, and the nation. I have mixed feelings on Unions in general. Their purpose is admirable, but like most bureaucracies, the devil is in the details. When the teacher's union protects demonstratively bad teachers, or the police union does the same for a bad cop, that is not good for society. When they employ archaic work rules to needlessly pad employees pay, that is not good for society. Having said that, the strongest and healthiest societies are ones in which ALL members of that society can fairly and justly share in the economic fruits of their labor.

In the past, CEO's of large corporations might have enjoyed a salary 8 or 9 times that of it's lowest paid worker. Today, that number may be 400 or 500 times that of it's lowest paid worker. It is a sad commentary today that both husband and wife need to work full time jobs to maintain a decent family lifestyle. Years ago, a wife had the ability if she wished to stay at home, raise the children, and prepare and enjoy a home cooked meal with the family. I think our society was stronger, and I know our children benefited more by the love, time, and attention they received from a nurturing mother at home. Very few families have the ability to make that same choice today.

I hope that Trump is successful in bringing more highly paid jobs back to the US. We need to reverse the trend in the loss of manufacturing jobs, and begin a serious attempt at improving the infrastructure of our nation.