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Jan 30, 2017 09:51:19   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I am not saying we need or don't need immigrant's. I am curious to know what you think. The pros and cons of immigration. Could be an interesting topic.

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Jan 30, 2017 09:53:56   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
JFlorio wrote:
I am not saying we need or don't need immigrant's. I am curious to know what you think. The pros and cons of immigration. Could be an interesting topic.


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NO muslim should be allowed in the US Those already here should be removed

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Jan 30, 2017 09:56:50   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
We don't have jobs for the people who are citizens!
The immigrants that are coming to the US are given welfare and health care right off the bat.
To me it is stupid to admit any immigrants to the US at this time!
Many of the immigrants are reported to be diseased!


JFlorio wrote:
I am not saying we need or don't need immigrant's. I am curious to know what you think. The pros and cons of immigration. Could be an interesting topic.

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Jan 30, 2017 10:22:28   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I also lean this way. Any country trillions of dollars in debt has no business subsidizing non-citizens who will be a net negative for our country.
bilordinary wrote:
We don't have jobs for the people who are citizens!
The immigrants that are coming to the US are given welfare and health care right off the bat.
To me it is stupid to admit any immigrants to the US at this time!
Many of the immigrants are reported to be diseased!

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Jan 30, 2017 10:27:40   #
plainlogic
 
It seems to me, let all immigrants in, open all the borders and what you've done is increase the tax base and you have life time support for progressives.


JFlorio wrote:
I am not saying we need or don't need immigrant's. I am curious to know what you think. The pros and cons of immigration. Could be an interesting topic.

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Jan 30, 2017 10:30:49   #
plainlogic
 
bilordinary wrote:
We don't have jobs for the people who are citizens!
The immigrants that are coming to the US are given welfare and health care right off the bat.
To me it is stupid to admit any immigrants to the US at this time!
Many of the immigrants are reported to be diseased!



Let's look at that: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

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Jan 30, 2017 10:32:37   #
plainlogic
 
JFlorio wrote:
I also lean this way. Any country trillions of dollars in debt has no business subsidizing non-citizens who will be a net negative for our country.



Whoa there J, too much common sense, can't take it!

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Jan 30, 2017 10:33:45   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Great idea. If only we had jobs for all of them. I hope you were being tongue and cheek.
plainlogic wrote:
It seems to me, let all immigrants in, open all the borders and what you've done is increase the tax base and you have life time support for progressives.

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Jan 30, 2017 10:34:28   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I see you were.
JFlorio wrote:
Great idea. If only we had jobs for all of them. I hope you were being tongue and cheek.

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Jan 30, 2017 10:42:50   #
bahmer
 
hprinze wrote:
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NO muslim should be allowed in the US Those already here should be removed


Amen and Amen I am with you there.

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Jan 30, 2017 10:45:51   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Immigration is not evil, i*****l i*********n is an invasion. True immigrants come into our nation having gone through the process to ensure they do not pose mental, medical, or hostile threats to American citizens. They bring with them traditions that are in harmony with many of American values, training and sk**ls. Overall, I am not opposed to legal immigrants. However, one has to keep in mind that the US land mass is just what it is, it is not growing. Keeping that in mind, we only have limited ability to financially support and to feed a given amount of people. Taking the death rate in consideration, one could expect for the US to remain self sufficient with an influx of about 700,000 people a year. Any more than that puts strains on educational systems, state run programs that include welfare, and federal programs. Also, this limit encourages assimilation into the American philosophies and encourages participation in attaining the goals of America. Sanctuary cities encourage immigrants to first and foremost break the laws, but also denies these people encouragement of embracing their new country. My personal opinion, i******s regardless of age or time in country need to be deported immediately. While we open our doors to legal immigration of people who will not undermine our nation, ideals, or hinder our forward momentum. We also must ensure the safety and well being of Americans. Due to the overt hostilities of some nations, individuals from those regions seeking visa or resettlement into the US must be put through vigorous investigations and denied admittance without respect to what is t***spiring in their home country. American citizens should never fear they are being usurped by muslim who do not hold our values or any other cults that wish to do us harm.

JFlorio wrote:
I am not saying we need or don't need immigrant's. I am curious to know what you think. The pros and cons of immigration. Could be an interesting topic.

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Jan 30, 2017 10:53:33   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
plainlogic wrote:
It seems to me, let all immigrants in, open all the borders and what you've done is increase the tax base and you have life time support for progressives.


How can you increase the tax base if there's too many people for the number of jobs? We're using our taxes to pay for welfare, medical, education, disease and crime. There's a big LOSS here in every way. Now they're even getting much waited for t***splants ahead of American citizens. It's a lose, lose situation here.
The legal immigration system worked as it was controlled. Open borders are the ruination of any country especially if we have a group that will never assimilate.

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Jan 30, 2017 10:56:11   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Immigration is not evil, i*****l i*********n is an invasion. True immigrants come into our nation having gone through the process to ensure they do not pose mental, medical, or hostile threats to American citizens. They bring with them traditions that are in harmony with many of American values, training and sk**ls. Overall, I am not opposed to legal immigrants. However, one has to keep in mind that the US land mass is just what it is, it is not growing. Keeping that in mind, we only have limited ability to financially support and to feed a given amount of people. Taking the death rate in consideration, one could expect for the US to remain self sufficient with an influx of about 700,000 people a year. Any more than that puts strains on educational systems, state run programs that include welfare, and federal programs. Also, this limit encourages assimilation into the American philosophies and encourages participation in attaining the goals of America. Sanctuary cities encourage immigrants to first and foremost break the laws, but also denies these people encouragement of embracing their new country. My personal opinion, i******s regardless of age or time in country need to be deported immediately. While we open our doors to legal immigration of people who will not undermine our nation, ideals, or hinder our forward momentum. We also must ensure the safety and well being of Americans. Due to the overt hostilities of some nations, individuals from those regions seeking visa or resettlement into the US must be put through vigorous investigations and denied admittance without respect to what is t***spiring in their home country. American citizens should never fear they are being usurped by muslim who do not hold our values or any other cults that wish to do us harm.
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Jan 30, 2017 11:00:32   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Thank you El.

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Jan 30, 2017 11:04:49   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I agree. One of the first things immigrants should be vetted about is their desire to become Americans. My Grandparents were proud of their heritage but prouder still to become an American. Now we have all these groups from all over that want to come here but could care less what it means to be American.
Pennylynn wrote:
Immigration is not evil, i*****l i*********n is an invasion. True immigrants come into our nation having gone through the process to ensure they do not pose mental, medical, or hostile threats to American citizens. They bring with them traditions that are in harmony with many of American values, training and sk**ls. Overall, I am not opposed to legal immigrants. However, one has to keep in mind that the US land mass is just what it is, it is not growing. Keeping that in mind, we only have limited ability to financially support and to feed a given amount of people. Taking the death rate in consideration, one could expect for the US to remain self sufficient with an influx of about 700,000 people a year. Any more than that puts strains on educational systems, state run programs that include welfare, and federal programs. Also, this limit encourages assimilation into the American philosophies and encourages participation in attaining the goals of America. Sanctuary cities encourage immigrants to first and foremost break the laws, but also denies these people encouragement of embracing their new country. My personal opinion, i******s regardless of age or time in country need to be deported immediately. While we open our doors to legal immigration of people who will not undermine our nation, ideals, or hinder our forward momentum. We also must ensure the safety and well being of Americans. Due to the overt hostilities of some nations, individuals from those regions seeking visa or resettlement into the US must be put through vigorous investigations and denied admittance without respect to what is t***spiring in their home country. American citizens should never fear they are being usurped by muslim who do not hold our values or any other cults that wish to do us harm.
Immigration is not evil, i*****l i*********n is an... (show quote)

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