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Apr 8, 2014 23:19:52   #
robert66 wrote:
What was your source then? Even Fox news reported the problem was to eliminate funds for the ACA.


Google: gop ask for delay in aca for budget, obama says no

When the shut down happen 87% of the government still was operating, it was Obama that shut down national parks, veteran memorial, and then blamed the Gop. After the buget was approved, guess what? Obama signed a delay, the very thing the gop was asking for to avoid a shut down!!!!! But the media demonized the Gop.
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Apr 8, 2014 06:11:44   #
robert66 wrote:
That is another whiny response. "Mommy why do I have to take out the trash". Check the record on the healthcare act. There were misleading headlines saying republicans tried like 52 times to repeal the healthcare act. But it wasn't just that all 52 times. The democrats actually signed on to compromises 7 times. When you v**e for someone who runs on " no compromise" you only make things worse. It is a job requirement when you are elected. We ended up with a standoff between the house and senate because of this no compromise crap. These tea party (I know it's just a movement) i***ts got elected by running on no compromise. Hopefully you guys can get someone in who has more sense this time.
That is another whiny response. "Mommy why do... (show quote)


I think the GOP would have been more open to compromise had the bill not been secretly been passed behind closed doors, and then obama basically gave the GOP the finger on budget bills. How much more should the right take? There are over 200 bills, mostly job bills, that Harry ried won't even take to the floor. No,I say no more compromise, it time for damage control against the left
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Apr 7, 2014 12:08:52   #
WELL SAID!!!!!








quote=funguy1949]Well lets see what is wrong with your logic so the far





mers got billions well lets see for one thing farmers are not that rich,they work 24/7/365 they pay for everything that is grown starting with property taxe's/the seed/farm equipment/gas to use that farm eqiupment/ they payed dealy for the water to eregate/not to mention all the work that goes into farming 24/7 and that goes for all the ranchers that put beef on your table/now if things don't go there way there out of all there hard working to make money insteed they lose everything like the early winter storm that South Dakota had which was very devestating to the ranchers/or a flood comes along an wipes out the feild the crops were planted on and no compincation to there lose's/ plus nothing to sell to all those free loaders who are on the food stamps that do nothing/so in otherwords, if it wasn't for farmers and ranchers there wouldn't be any need for stamps.An for your info the welfare has gone up 30%-40% in the last 4 years when SS which has been payed by hard working tax paying citizens didn't get nothing an when they did get it only got 1.5% the food stamp program gave back 1% off each an every food stamp that the goverment gives out to free loaders.hopfully this make sence to all.So please stop your winnig if you do then I'll give you some that goverment free cheese, atleast your eating,I've seen people that have nothing but SS eating cat and dog food for there meals toooo dam proud to ask for a hand out.An one final part as far as I know farmers don't pay into SS or get food stamps they have to work there farm until the grimrepper comes an get's them hopefuly they have kid's who will take there place after they are gone to put food on the tables of all american citizens.[/quote]
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Apr 7, 2014 04:00:35   #
I believe we have the best doctors, but greed and regulation set in and destroyed the (once) best.
You may want to check and see who v**ed in all the regulation....the left!

How about leaving out comments about the right, when the a******n of a system (obamacare). Was a left disgrace.

Both parties are to blame, the right had a chance the last 30 years to do something, but now that we have be forced feed. What do you propose as a solution.




Hungry Freaks wrote:
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Conservatives believe "the marketplace" will take care of medical needs despite the fact that 'health care consumers" (sick and injured people) usually don't have much of a choice of what medical facility the go to or what doctors treat them, unless, perhaps, they live in a major urban area.

Most suburban and rural areas are serviced by a single hospital or system of for-profit hospitals and ancillary medical facilities. Insurance companies, for those with insurance, often allow only one lab, one radiological facility and a limited list of doctors they will pay for, further limited the 'health care consumers" choice.

So the question remains-how can there be a market without much in the way of a choice of 'health care providers" doctors, nurses, etc.)

"The marketplace" has also left 47 million without insurance and gave us the US a medical system that costs 50% more than the next most expensive health care systems (Switzerland and Sweden) yet with medical outcomes (infant mortality, maternal mortality, incidence of heart disease, diabetes, etc) ranking 27th, a tie with with Costa Rica.

US doctors once had most of their training paid for by the government, often through the military, in exchange for four or six years of service. The government started to dismantled that system under Nixon and continued it for the next 15 years

Today, foreign countries pay for and send their students to the US to be trained while US med students rack up hundreds of thousands in debt getting the same training.

And yet the right still claims "the United States has the best medical system in the world. Not so much anymore. .
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Apr 6, 2014 22:26:36   #
jack sequim wa wrote:
Yes, it has be proposed in over a dozen bills submitted and passed by the house,,only to be.rejected by Senator Reid for a senate v**e pre Obama care. Then obamacare was passed behind closed doors with zero Gop debate. Much of the ideas in these post, were in the rejected bills, as well as proposals for each state to care for the uninsured, with fed aid at a cost of about 1000th of what Obama care cost, plus caps on lawsuits against hospitals and doctors helping to rid the high paid rat attorneys.
Keeping in mind obamacare has less to do with providing low cost heath care and is all about government control.
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Its on the table, subject to repealing Obamacare..which could only happen (maybe) once Obama is out of office. Wouldn't surprise me if congress acted to defund, but that wouldn't happen until after the midterm e******n
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Apr 6, 2014 21:54:22   #
Yes, it has be proposed in over a dozen bills submitted and passed by the house,,only to be.rejected by Senator Reid for a senate v**e pre Obama care. Then obamacare was passed behind closed doors with zero Gop debate. Much of the ideas in these post, were in the rejected bills, as well as proposals for each state to care for the uninsured, with fed aid at a cost of about 1000th of what Obama care cost, plus caps on lawsuits against hospitals and doctors helping to rid the high paid rat attorneys.
Keeping in mind obamacare has less to do with providing low cost heath care and is all about government control.




Anigav6969 wrote:
This sounds great! I never understood why we can't purchase health insurance out of state..is anyone proposing something even close to this? And does it actually have shot?
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Apr 6, 2014 05:54:32   #
Does everyone remember it was 15 million that did not have health care, so instead working a plan for the 15. Obama adds a government control program, taking up 1*6 of our economy, affecting the other 320 +/-million in our, once great land.
Also nearly every state if not all has medical (medicaid). Free to the low income, or.sliding scale if over a specified amount.

O'Reilly, said it great is why 50,000 people liked his comment. Retiring from sales I earned over 4 times as others doing the very same thing, because of sk**l set. A neurosurgeon earns, more than a school teacher, or welder.....da. Who can't understand what he was reporting?
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Apr 5, 2014 07:12:14   #
The attack against Christians is growing at light speed, world wide. Countries around the world are k*****g/jailing/beating Christians, but you won't hear about it on the news here in America, as the war and attacks grow here in our country and conservative Christians are demonized with growing acceptance. Gods judgment is coming on the world, the tribulation is at the door. Hundreds of prophecies fulfilled.
Accept Jesus as your savior, confess your a sinner, ask for forgiveness,ask Jesus to be Lord of your life.
Christians are saved sinners, for we are saved by grace, not because we deserve it, but because God loves us and gives us free will, to chose living to glorify him, or ourselves. Once we accept God he begins to t***sform our hearts and minds.
If you don't believe in God, just look at the science, factual proof. Then there is the fulfillment of prophesies, hundreds!! You have better odds of winning the lottery many times over, than just one Prophecy being fulfilled. Imagine the odds of hundreds.
Hurry, don't be late.....
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Apr 3, 2014 17:08:15   #
There are thousands of references, hundreds of thousands your unwilling to except. Hardly worthy of calling me a liar. But for the most part I can thank you for expressing your views peacefully, maybe catch you on another topic.

Have a great day,
Jack
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Apr 3, 2014 15:37:22   #
College 101 fact finding, you google one phrase absent of results there it must not exist? I followed your lead with only 4 phrase alternates in google, bing, Yahoo and then added the brain tasking effort to hit the news tab, switching from Web results yielding hundreds of thousands of results. One such phrase ...gladd activist call man woman marriage Christians evil.
Again you say specifically the word "evil"
College 101 again one learns the diversity of language, and the multiple words meaning evil. Try using a thesaurus, a basic took actually used in grade schools. Then there is the richness and fullness of the Greek/Latin languages which have as many as 30 or 40 words for our one English word, however the Greek does not have a word for evil, only a noun or pronoun referring to bad or sin.
I'm not interested in doing your research for you, just follow some 101 sk**ls, then maybe argue. Until then it would be nothing more than circular reasoning which is not debatable.







quote=Btfkr]You say so. No, just to see if I'd miss something I googled "trad



itional marriage evil". I see a whole lot of pretty colored pictures of...Pat Buchanan, the Pope, and of course Rush Limbaugh who came the closest with, "I would go so far as to say that there are some people who think marriage is an evil Republican idea". All the verbiage certainly called gay marriage evil however. Think about it. Is the word "evil" itself in the common vocabulary of gay marriage proponents? Not likely.

Tell you what, you brought up the topic. Why don't you do the research and find one gay marriage proponent that has called traditional marriage "evil" and share it with us. I'd be anxious to know and will personally contact that person and tell him/her that is a no no and not the point. Remember, it has to use the specific word "evil" as to define traditional marriage and it has to be used by a gay marriage proponent as you claim, not by a right wing spin master. And it has to specifically call traditional marriage "evil" just as you claim, not the solely the advocates (persons) of traditional marriage of opponents of gay marriage (persons).

Thank you, I wish you the best as well.[/quote]
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Apr 3, 2014 00:15:58   #
Bruce, your comments are some of the most unfactual I have read. With that said, I do believe you convinced your positions and arguments make sense, that is sad and sorry.
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Apr 2, 2014 22:41:52   #
Who said it, you ask. Google some treads, or effort by gay rights activism against Christians standing for marriage between a man and a women.
The h**e for Christians standing for there faith is vitriol!!! And those who stand for marriage to be between two men or two woman it is called good.
No offense but the answer to your question, is written at every turn in our lives, or found in television media, radio, Hollywood, print. I'm not clear how you would have a question such as this.
My best to you,





uote=Btfkr]So, just WHO was it said the definition of marriage between man and woman is EVIL? Lying takes on all forms, exaggeration being one.[/quote]
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Apr 2, 2014 07:47:23   #
In the last days " good will be called evil, and evil will be called good "

The definition of marriage between man and woman is now evil,
Lying.to get public opinion support for Obamacare to meet an end result, is good.

To speak moral t***hs, the messenger is a h**er!!
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Apr 2, 2014 07:37:10   #
Terry Allan Hall wrote:
How about on a case-by-case basis...the only way our Constitution allows (innocent unless proved guilty)? It's been noted that a mere 2%, world-wide, are the problem, and of that number, perhaps 1% of the American Moslems are problematic, so 99% of American Moslems, 98% of Moslems world-wide, are not.

Figures that should be kept in mind.


Terry, not so sure about your percentages you list, given the efforts against Israel and now the Arabs are losing there allied status. I dare to use a percentage considering the mass of Moslem countries desiring to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.
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Apr 2, 2014 02:34:59   #
Thank you, for your insightful reply! I only Hope it sheds a sliver of light to some, but knowing those with promoting the USA into something other than a God fearing nation our founding fathers intended.

Thanks again
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