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Feb 11, 2016 13:09:58   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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America's Christian History

America's heritage is built up on the principles of the Christian religion.

Christianity is written on every page of America's amazing history.

Gary DeMar presents well-documented facts which will change your perspective about what it means to be a Christian in America; the t***h about America's Christian past as it relates to Supreme Court justices and presidents; the Christian character of colonial charters, state constitutions and the U.S. Constitution; the Christian foundation of colleges; the Christian character of Washington, D.C.; the origin of Thanksgiving; and so much more.

Three appendixes have been added that further emphasize Christianity's positive influence on America. Additional information includes "Deism and the Founding of America" and also "Jesus Christ and the Founding of America." This is an indispensable book which is needed in a time when even "under God" is coming under fire.

Read more about America's Christian History.

From the founding of the colonies to the declaration of the Supreme Court, America's heritage is built up on the principles of the Christian religion. And yet the secularists are dismantling this foundation brick by brick, attempting to deny the very core of our national life.

You weigh the evidence. Consider the following facts which are being systematically erased from our nation's memory:

In 1892, the Supreme Court of the United States declared, "This is a Christian nation."

During the War for Independence, Congress resolved to import 20,000 volumes of the Bible because "the use of the Bible is so universal, and its importance so great."

The New England Confederation stated that the purpose of the colonies was "to advance the Kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ and to enjoy the liberties of the gospel in purity with peace."

Harvard College required that each student believe that "the main end of his life and studies is to know God and Jesus Christ which is eternal life."

John Adams wrote, "The Christian religion is...the Religion of Wisdom, Virtue, Equity, and humanity."

Engraved on the metal cap on the top of the Washington Monument are the words "Praise be to God."
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I guess that Harvard does not have those same requirements now.
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Feb 11, 2016 12:58:46   #
Carol Kelly wrote:
No matter what term is used, they're still men, hence founding fathers. Women did a lot of undercover work and stood behind their men to allow them to do their jobs and do it they did...luckily for all later generations including this generation. It's a term of respect if nothing else and those men may be dead and gone but they still deserve respect.


Great statement from a lady. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Feb 11, 2016 12:56:45   #
PaulPisces wrote:
Complete patriarchal nonsense, and further diversion.

In the context of this discussion the meaning is the same, except "founding fathers" includes an oblique exclusion of the role women played in our country's founding. Who do you think made it possible for the writers of the Constitution to function both at home and while away. Women made that possible and whether or not "founders" is feminist or not, I can't see why anyone would not want to use a word that is more inclusive.

Wait, I do see why. Those who are afraid of losing their patriarchal power h**e words that are inclusive of women.
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Women may have been a extraneous part of this country but they did not form the bond of men that produced the Constitution.
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Feb 11, 2016 12:51:16   #
PaulPisces wrote:
As far as I can tell from your post, the only objection to using "founders" instead of "founding fathers" is that the latter is the way it's been for a long time.

Your "purple penguin" conversation is a separate one and not relevant to my question. Nice try for a diversion, but I would still like a better reason than that founding fathers "..has been used for two hundred years..."


Give one good reason it should be changed. I see nothing wrong with "founding fathers", unless fathers is not a political correct term now.
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Feb 11, 2016 12:48:24   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Lord Reagan started the demise of California when he granted amnesty to those millions of Mexican immigrants.


Right! Now you political party want to just let us have open borders. Is that fine with you?
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Feb 10, 2016 17:47:41   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Ladies and gentlemen: Majority of democrats are free loaders.

Since college, I worked and studied hard, became a CPA, made good money, now retired and widowed. As a widow and single,I pay very high federal income tax average of $27,800 each year. In 2015, it is going up. I also paid $8700 property tax, and is going up in 2016, due to so many public school kids added from the i*****l a***n families.

Since college, I have been a REPUBLICAN who worked hard, feeding the democrat low brainer-free loaders. And that include the i*****l a***ns, violent or not, brought to our country by the democrats so that they could have many free loading supporters. That include the "black l***s m****r" activists, and thugs on the streets knocking down white people. Added to these free loaders are i*****l a***ns, and radical Muslims k*****g and raping American citizens.

This is how democrats win the e******n by multiplying free loaders, using the money of the Republican hard working taxpayers to feed these suckers.

In 2015, there are 47,000,000 people in this country who don't pay federal taxes. They are all democrats, and most of them are 99% handouts.
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Great post, but most liberals will not understand the principles we live by.
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Feb 10, 2016 17:45:04   #
susanblange wrote:
If everyone has sinned, how can God demand perfection? Psalm 119:96. "I have seen an end of all perfection: but thy commandment is exceeding broad". Perfection means you have never sinned, and no one is perfect.


That is just the point. God knows all men/women are sinners one way or another even when he demands it to be. Just as all employees are demanded by their employers to be perfect in their work but understands there will be some areas where they will not be perfect.
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Feb 10, 2016 17:38:39   #
Glaucon wrote:
What did you imagine to be the lie?


That you and others paid for my Social Security.
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Feb 10, 2016 16:47:41   #
Onelostdog wrote:
Received from a friend today, an interesting read.

From— Andrew P. Napolitano, a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey.



Subject: Much of This Was in The Philadelphia Inquirer Today.
Date: January 22, 2016




The federal criminal investigation of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s failure to secure state secrets was ratcheted up earlier this week, and at the same time, the existence of a parallel criminal investigation of another aspect of her behavior was made known. This is the second publicly revealed expansion of the FBI’s investigations in two months.


I have argued for two months that Clinton’s legal woes are either grave or worse than grave. That argument has been based on the hard, now public evidence of her failure to safeguard national security secrets and the known manner in which the Department of Justice addresses these failures.


The failure to safeguard state secrets is an area of the law in which the federal government has been aggressive to the point of being merciless. State secrets are the product of members of the intelligence community's risking their lives to obtain information.


Before she was entrusted with any state secrets -- indeed, on her first full day as secretary of state -- Clinton received instruction from FBI agents on how to safeguard them; and she signed an oath swearing to comply with the laws commanding the safekeeping of these secrets. She was warned that the failure to safeguard secrets -- known as espionage -- would most likely result in aggressive prosecution.


In the cases of others, those threats have been carried out. The Obama Department of Justice prosecuted a young sailor for espionage for sending a selfie to his girlfriend, because in the background of the photo was a view of a sonar screen on a submarine. It prosecuted a heroic Marine for espionage for warning his superiors of the presence of an Al Qaeda operative in police garb inside an American encampment in Afghanistan, because he used a Gmail account to send the warning.


It also prosecuted Gen. David Petraeus for espionage for keeping secret and top-secret documents in an unlocked drawer in his desk inside his guarded home. It alleged that he shared those secrets with a friend who also had a security clearance, but it dropped those charges.


The obligation of those to whom state secrets have been entrusted to safeguard them is a rare area in which federal criminal prosecutions can be based on the defendant’s negligence. Stated differently, to prosecute Clinton for espionage, the government need not prove that she intended to expose the secrets.


The evidence of Clinton’s negligence is overwhelming. The FBI now has more than 1,300 protected emails that she received on her insecure server and sent to others -- some to their insecure servers. These emails contained confidential, secret or top-secret information, the negligent exposure of which is a criminal act.


One of the top-secret emails she received and forwarded contained a photo taken from an American satellite of the North Korean nuclear facility that detonated a device just last week. Because Clinton failed to safeguard that email, she exposed to hackers and thus to the North Koreans the time, place and manner of American surveillance of them. This type of data is in the highest category of protected secrets.


Last weekend, the State Department released two smoking guns -- each an email from Clinton to a State Department subordinate. One instructed a subordinate who was having difficulty getting a document to Clinton that she had not seen by using a secure State Department fax machine to use an insecure fax machine. The other instructed another subordinate to remove the “confidential” or “secret” designation from a document Clinton had not seen before sending it to her. These two emails show a pattern of behavior utterly heedless of the profound responsibilities of the secretary of state, repugnant to her sworn agreement to safeguard state secrets, and criminal at their essence.


Also this past weekend, my Fox News colleagues Catherine Herridge and Pamela Browne learned from government sources that the FBI is investigating whether Clinton made any decisions as secretary of state to benefit her family foundation or her husband’s speaking engagements. If so, this would be profound public corruption.


This investigation was probably provoked by several teams of independent researchers -- some of whom are financial experts and have published their work -- who have been investigating the Clinton Foundation for a few years. They have amassed a treasure-trove of documents demonstrating fraud and irregularities in fundraising and expenditures, and they have shown a pattern of favorable State Department treatment of foreign entities coinciding with donations by those entities to the Clinton Foundation and their engaging former President Bill Clinton to give speeches.


There are now more than 100 FBI agents investigating Hillary Clinton. Her denial that she is at the core of their work is political claptrap with no connection to reality. It is inconceivable that the FBI would send such vast resources in the present dangerous era on a wild-goose chase.


It is the consensus of many of us who monitor government behavior that the FBI will recommend indictment. That recommendation will go to Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who, given Clinton’s former status in the government and current status in the Democratic Party, will no doubt consult the White House.


If a federal grand jury were to indict Clinton for espionage or corruption that would be fatal to her political career.

If the FBI recommends indictment and the attorney general declines to do so, expect Saturday Night Massacre-like leaks of draft indictments, whistleblower revelations and litigation, and FBI resignations, led by the fiercely independent and intellectually honest FBI Director James Comey himself. That would be fatal to Clinton’s political career, as well.


Andrew P. Napolitano, a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey.


Sent from my MacBook Pro,
Charlie
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With that many FBI agents on the case there must be many avenues that they have to go down to find more possible leads to indite her on these charges or other charges.
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Feb 10, 2016 16:28:04   #
Glaucon wrote:
You begin with, "I for one" and I for one am unable to imagine You could mean your "I" to be for any more than one. Would you ever say, I for three or I for twenty three and a half? Wait until you for one have something to say before you bring shame on yourself for your mindless drivel.


What? That was pure nonsense.
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Feb 10, 2016 16:22:38   #
Glaucon wrote:
You might not be aware that your Medicare, Social security and food stamps are paid with OUR tax money. You, personally, have gotten back a lot more from OUR government than you nave paid in and I doubt that you would be willing to pay all that back even if you had the money. As they said about Bush, you are all hat and no cattle.

Did I mention that you are an evil b***h?


Your statement was ludicrous and a lie. All of us that have gotten Social Security and Medicare have paid for that right, it is not a entitlement. I, for one, have never gotten welfare even when I was broke. There were times the only job I could get was at a bowling alley scoring for the bowlers. You probably would not remember those times.
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Feb 10, 2016 16:14:49   #
Glaucon wrote:
It sounds like you have made up your mind and nothing will influence your emotions, so I won't try to force any facts or reason on you.


I, for one, do not think that you state many true facts. You and other Democrats on this site, state you know the facts better than any Republican but it seems all of you only use left leaning sites and no sites that are non political.
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Feb 10, 2016 15:59:59   #
Jerry A. wrote:
Stupidity in U.S.A. is a t***smitted disease, you feel important v****g for the greedy, anti-labor, and prejudice. God Bless U.S.A.


I take it that is why you v**ed for Obama.
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Feb 10, 2016 15:56:55   #
Glaucon wrote:
The poor and uneducated v**e Republican because they are uneducated, not very bright, and controlled by their own h**eful emotions. Isn't that obvious?


Are you really serious? You seem to be the one that is controlled by your h**eful emotions. Not every Democrat or Republican are uneducated but there sure are more Democrats uneducated and on the teat of the government.
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Feb 10, 2016 15:47:33   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
Why are the ignorant freeloaders all Democrats?


Because they are all just lemmings running over the cliff.
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