Onelostdog Loc: Restless Oregon

And from San Diego, Commifornia comes this brainyass idea.


San Diego to staff: ‘Founding fathers’ is biased, should not be used
By Joe Newby -
February 10, 2016

Freedom_of_Thought_Ben_FranklinIt seems the city of San Diego, California, is rushing down the path of political correctness with a new manual that tells employees what they can and can’t say.

Among the phrases that could get employees in trouble: “Founding fathers.” As in George Washington, John Adams, etc.

According to a section on “Bias-Free Language,” the term “founders” should be used instead.

Other phrases no longer welcome include “the common man,” “manmade” and “man up,” the Pacific Justice Institute said.

PJI added:

In response, the Pacific Justice Institute sent a letter to Mayor Kevin Faulconer late Monday calling for the guidelines to be rescinded. In the letter, PJI attorney Matthew McReynolds notes that more than 1,500 Supreme Court and lower court decisions have directly invoked the Founding Fathers. The letter quotes several examples from landmark cases. Under the guidelines, legal staff are discouraged from quoting these decisions.

Brad Dacus, president of Pacific Justice Institute, noted, “At a time set aside to honor American icons to whom we owe our constitutional freedoms, it is offensive and indefensible that the City of San Diego is directing employees not to even mention the Founding Fathers. We are calling on the mayor to immediately retract these guidelines and reassure city employees that they will not be punished for being patriotic. We cannot allow this type of censorship and PC insanity to destroy our free speech.”

PJI also offered to represent any city employee punished for their patriotic expression — free of charge.

This is what you get with liberalism, and the answer is simple — get rid of every single liberal in government.

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PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

Why would anyone have an issue using "founders" instead of "founding fathers"?

Carol Kelly

Have we lost our minds? Is this Russia? Where does all this junk come from? Are people sitting up nights thinking of how they can do more damage? This is sicko. Next thing we know women will be buried up to their necks and stoned to death for saying something as harmless as founding fathers.

buffalo Loc: Texas

MOONBAT!!!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Lord Reagan started the demise of California when he granted amnesty to those millions of Mexican immigrants.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

The term "founding fathers" has been used for two hundred years, and has not been an issue until the politically correct g****r neutral concepts came along. Would you prefer referring to them as founding purple penguins just to be sure that no mention is made that they were men? In California it has been suggested that teachers refer to their students as
'purple penguins" rather than boys and girls so that they can pretend that they are not different. Would that work for those men who fought to make it a country, worked out a system of government and wrote the Constitution so that they would not be recognized as men, or for that matter as human. Yes, from hense forth in California the founding fathers shall be referred to as "founding purple penguins" That is no more absurd than the idea that noting that they were men is not politically correct.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

As far as I can tell from your post, the only objection to using "founders" instead of "founding fathers" is that the latter is the way it's been for a long time.

Your "purple penguin" conversation is a separate one and not relevant to my question. Nice try for a diversion, but I would still like a better reason than that founding fathers "..has been used for two hundred years..."

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I think I read the answer to your question further down in the thread. Of course, not all liberals are women so your question has validity, but out there in Commifornia there are plenty of women of the feminist persuasion who don't want to hear that the founders were men. They were all men unless some women signed the Document with male names and attended the meetings that summer as men although they might have been some women. The stupidity that Madison referred to when he said that all 55 were men is really something. I have read his book about the meetings and saw no reference to any women being there.

It is feminists that are causing all this crap. One of them even said the other day that there is a special place in Hell for women who v**e against Hillary. Does that make you wonder about all this feminism that is coming back?

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Founding fathers has had a specific meaning. Founders could include the people who founded the linen shop for which you worked, of the kennel club to which I belong. Founding fathers indicates that those who were involved it the project were part of a larger goal than a linen shop or a dog club Changing wording changes the subtle meaning of terms, and to do that just to be politically correct negates the English language and blurs meanings. However, as compared to the claim that Muslims were a part of the founding group that developed this country, which is what Obama has stated, I guess whether the men who fought for and formed this country, and whose signatures on the documents mean something great, it is of little importance.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Because 100 years from now so dumb ass will say 'what's a founder'!

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

This is part of what Madalyn Albright had in mind when she said the other day that there is a special place in Hell for women who don't v**e for Hillary. That is referring to people of the female persuasion that don't v**e for old Hillary.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

Complete patriarchal nonsense, and further diversion.

In the context of this discussion the meaning is the same, except "founding fathers" includes an oblique exclusion of the role women played in our country's founding. Who do you think made it possible for the writers of the Constitution to function both at home and while away. Women made that possible and whether or not "founders" is feminist or not, I can't see why anyone would not want to use a word that is more inclusive.

Wait, I do see why. Those who are afraid of losing their patriarchal power h**e words that are inclusive of women.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

So you agree with feminists that kids should be taught in school that there is no difference between males and females? I always have to wonder how people who think like that think that we have been procreated all these thousands of years.

Onelostdog Loc: Restless Oregon

Were there any women signers on any documents of the time? Were women generally in political positions at the time? Are some of you liberals truly the ones who have a war on women? Are women the ones who founded the war on women? Did women of the times build the homes and businesses for the towns and outlying areas. Were women of the times the whores and C*******t disciples as the liberal progressive male such as yourself is today? Therefore Founding Fathers has been in use for 200 years and will continue to be used for at least another 200 years or until the liberal progressive/C*******t/Mooslime controls the US after the next revolution, which will not happen. More of your hope and changy crap coming from your liberal anti-American l*****t revolutionaries.

buffalo Loc: Texas

Real inclusive alright. When Madeleine Albright and Gloria Steinem tried to shame and bully young women into supporting Hillary Clinton, they inadvertently revealed a dirty secret of the left’s fixation on g****r, race and ethnicity.

They demonstrated that hiding behind the gauzy appeals to make history is a willingness to use brass knuckles to achieve conformity. In their warped vision, biology trumps individuality, and those who don’t agree are t*****rs to their g****r.

THEY ARE THE FOUNDING FATHERS, moonbat. F^ck "feminism".