Your driveling and irrational ideology of how you think is diametrically opposed to the slightest shred of reality.

Pull your dick out of your ear, Obama pulled troops "and ORDERED the military to leave behind all the military equipment, small and medium arm's, grenade launchers, millions of rounds of amo, tanks, armored hummers, cargo truck's,) all to arm and supply ISIS

What a complete i***t, America is talking about the cost of Obamacare, and your driveling on about military equipment.
How embarrassing for Al on this site to see you box yourself in a corner, your obvious low IQ and knowledge base of current events and topics is shameful.

Your an i***t, more businesses closing than opening FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY, the last seven years. And no you don't get to count government jobs, they don't grow the economy, they take (tax payer, paid wages). Private small business grows our economy, provides jobs, consumer spending. But then you have zero clue about economics and can only post liberal biased lies.

Fact
Like everything else you live in a propaganda bubble, deceived by media, and even after being warned to ignorant or stupid to research outside of liberal biased media info.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/charleskadlec/2012/08/20/mitt-romney-paid-30-not-13-in-federal-income-taxes/

Like Romney that the libs claimed paid no taxes until after the e******n, then Oops we lied, he did pay what was legally required plus not only millions and millions in taxes, but Millions and millions in charity, plus unlike obama has created thousands of jobs. And yet Romney and others like him pay for everything the poor has to eat, wear, and live but the libs demonize them, which is evil greed, jealousy, lies, deception and anything else that will get them more.

Your charts are so misaligned, but the point I want to make is, using your charts we see how Obama has help spike the rich to richer. Point in case nearly 3.5 TRILLION Dollars of QE went to Wallstreet not mainstreet. Hmmm and the list of policies to divide and widen the rich poor gap is long

I somehow thought there were 16 medications, 2 of 23 and libs have a problem is mind boggling. My heartburn is progressives are OK having the government dictating a private owners methods of operations. One had argued that when you serve the public you lose private ownership rights. Strip clubs and promoting moral decay is OK as a private owner, you own so operate as you please. But if your a christian faith based owner you need to be handcuffed in your operations and promotion of higher moral and faith based standards. The irrationally double standards against Christians is in my mind a foothold satan has gained in our "new" age society.

Excuse my spell auto correct, that was "we can discuss, but never see eye to eye.

That's why your a socialistic/c*******t and discuss, but never see eye to eye

It doesn't, just how our founding fathers set it up.

That's a weak argument, being the bible is literal and fewer subjects are debated than your inference.

Fully disagree, my company and your choice to shop anywhere. Don't like shop somewhere else.

Amen, Amen.
The t***h is not very popular on this site, as it seems generations are replacing God their creator with a none accusatory God that allows them to be even their own God.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT MAN, YOUR REPEATING LIES, maybe you don't know that you are, but then many liberals intentionally do pass on lies.

Hobby Lobby Owners Can Have a 401(k) and First Amendment Rights



There’s been an absurd story from Mother Jonesmaking the rounds this week.  Authored byMolly Redden (who has never signed the front of a paycheck, but does “spend too much time cooking and watching television,” according to her bio) and echoed here on Forbes.com by Rick Ungar, the argument is that Hobby Lobby can’t have religious convictions and a regular 401(k) plan for their employees at the same time.

Hobby Lobby (which is a closely held corporation with a few family owners) is suing the Obama Administration over Obamacare’s requirement that Hobby Lobby pay directly for drugs which can and do lead to early pregnancy a******ns.  Being a material and proximate cooperator in such an action violates the business owners’ deeply-held religious views protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution.

Apparently, this also means that Hobby Lobby can’t have a 401(k) plan for their employees.  Why?  Well, according to Redden and Ungar, the Hobby Lobby owners are religious kook hypocrites.  The company 401(k) plan has investments which themselves invest in companies that make the a******n drugs.

This is a ridiculous argument for several reasons, all of which would be obvious to Redden and Ungar if they had ever run a business in their lives:

English: Hobby Lobby store in Stow, Ohio (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

401(k) plans are directed and invested by employees, not by employers.  It’s the Hobby Lobby employees that would be disenfranchised by the twisted logic employed by Redden and Ungar here.  They are the ones–not their bosses–who choose which mutual funds to invest in.  This is true both of the employee’s elective deferral and the employer’s match.

The menu of choices is primarily provided not by the Hobby Lobby employers, but by the 401(k) plan administrator, who helps select a wide menu of mutual fund (and, increasingly, exchange traded fund) choices so that the fiduciary obligations of the plan are met.

401(k) plans don’t invest in company stock–they invest in mutual funds.  A mutual fund, to state the obvious, is an investment company which invests assets in actual stocks.  When you buy a share of a mutual fund, you are buying a very small indirect ownership of hundreds or even thousands of stocks.  The most common 401(k) plan mutual funds are index funds, which invest the fund shareholder in the entire stock market (or close to it) in one fell swoop.

401(k) plans have a limited number of choices, and that’s a good thing.  Redden in particular seems to think that you can invest your 401(k) dollars (actually, that your employer can invest your 401(k) dollars) in any mutual fund at all, including socially conscious ones.  That’s not accurate.  Plan administrators contract with select mutual fund companies to provide basic investment products diversified by sector, asset class, duration, risk, etc.  This is the primary goal of diversification of fund choices, not socially conscious investing.  Besides, it’s the employees who call the shots.  They may not share the same values as the Hobby Lobby owners, and might have a very different idea of what a “socially responsible” fund would invest in.

Furthermore, you don’t want to provide dozens to hundreds of investment choices for employees.  All the research I’ve ever seen on this has said that if you give employees too many choices, they will fear making a bad one and never deploy their cash toward any investment at all.  Additionally, each new mutual fund offered within a plan drives up 401(k) plan fees.  Surely Redden and Ungar agree with the Obama Administration that 401(k) fees are too high and should come down, right?

What does Mother Jones’ or Mercury Public Affairs’ 401(k) plan look like?  Those are the employers of Redden and Ungar, respectively.  Surely those 401(k) plans invest in stocks of oil and gas companies, defense contractors, private equity firms, and other evil conservative power bastions.  Have Redden and/or Ungar done a forensic investigation of the mutual funds they are invested in?  Should I call them hypocrites for daring to invest in a 401(k) which invests in a mutual fund which invests in a multinational company which happens to own an oil company?  If not, consider that the Hobby Lobby employers have one more degree of separation even from Redden and Ungar.  Our two intrepid reporters affirmatively chose to invest in merchants of death when they picked out their 401(k) choices.  All Hobby Lobby is doing is providing the platform for employees to make those same choices themselves in partnership with plan administrators.

It’s an absurd argument, and one which isn’t that hard to dispute if you’re familiar with how 401(k) plans actually work.  But it’s not surprising to see such a weak argument advanced.  The secular Left is doing everything they can to drive people of faith from the public square’s marketplace.  The ridiculous idea that a religiously convicted employer can’t offer a reasonable 401(k) plan is really not that different from saying a religiously convicted photographer can be ordered by the government to shoot a gay wedding.  Religious minorities are under assault from secular bullies, and unfortunately Redden and Ungar are in their ranks.