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Jun 18, 2015 14:42:21   #
oldroy wrote:
This bit of history will never cease to exist as long as our Constitution is still in effect. Of course, the progressive left wouldn't mind seeing that part end. The main difference in the Magna Carta and the Constitution is that one stopped the divine right of kings and the other extended it in that it lists the rights of the people and provides protection from monarchs and other tyrannical people.


"protection from monarchs and other tyrannical people"

Why is it not working that way now ?

We are ruled by a tyrant that has no respect for the Constitution and would like it to go away and our Congress is not doing a damned thing about it. It's time to clean the slate and get back to our Constitution.

It's time for this politically correct bunch of corrupt politicians to eat s**t and die. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
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Jun 18, 2015 14:36:52   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
Time will tell.


It's going to be interesting. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Jun 18, 2015 14:33:48   #
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Verse of the Day for Thursday June 18th, 2015:

I know, O LORD, that a man's life is not his own; it is not for man to direct his steps. — Jeremiah 10:23

Thoughts on Today's Verse....

While we may have goals and a sense of mission about our lives, our lives are not really ours to plan. Every day must be greeted as a gift from God. Every goal must ultimately be pursued to his glory. Every true sense of direction is a gift to us from our Father's Word or his Spirit.
My Prayer...

Wise and loving Father, lead me by your Holy Spirit. Fill me with your holy wisdom. Guide me into a more complete understanding of your will for my life. Please give me the wisdom to live each day with character and holy grace. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen.
Verse of the Day for Thursday June 18th, 2015: br ... (show quote)


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Jun 18, 2015 09:08:15   #
no propaganda please wrote:
A little esoteric for many people but i am glad you found it food for thought. Now how do we explain it to the liberals who apparently totally believe that any thoughts that are not just like theirs are h**e speech, nothing more, nothing less?


SWMBO


Actually that is what I thought all along I just couldn't put it in such nice language. :-)
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Jun 18, 2015 09:03:43   #
Loki wrote:
I read an article which pointed out the majority of the Medals of Honor since WWI have been awarded to Southerners of Scottish/Irish descent, although this demographic is not the largest.


"You might be a redneck if . . . . . . . . . . . . " :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:
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Jun 17, 2015 16:20:08   #
eagleye13 wrote:
10 Jokes Only Engineers Will Understand. Who Says Engineers Don't Have A Sense Of Humor?

1. Normal people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Engineers believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.

2. To the optimist, the glass is half-full.
To the pessimist, the glass is half-empty.
To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

3. A priest, a doctor, and an engineer were waiting one morning for a particularly slow group of golfers. The engineer fumed,
"What's with those guys? We must have been waiting for fifteen minutes!"

The doctor chimed in, "I don't know, but I've never seen such inept golf!"

The priest said, "Here comes the green-keeper. Let's have a word with him." He said, "Hello George, what's wrong with that
group ahead of us? They're rather slow, aren't they?"

The green-keeper replied, "Oh, yes. That's a group of blind firemen. They lost their sight saving our clubhouse from a fire last
year, so we always let them play for free anytime."

The group fell silent for a moment. The priest said, "That's so sad. I think I will say a special prayer for them tonight."

The doctor said, "Good idea. I'm going to contact my ophthalmologist colleague and see if there's anything he can do for them."

The engineer said, "Why can't they play at night?"

4. What is the difference between mechanical engineers and civil engineers?
Mechanical engineers build weapons. Civil engineers build targets.

5. The graduate with a science degree asks, "Why does it work?"
The graduate with an engineering degree asks, "How does it work?"
The graduate with an accounting degree asks, "How much will it cost?"
The graduate with an arts degree asks, "Do you want fries with that?"

6. Three engineering students were gathered together discussing who must have designed the human body.

One said, "It was a mechanical engineer. Just look at all the joints."

Another said, "No, it was an electrical engineer. The nervous system has many thousands of electrical connections."

The last one said, "No, actually it had to have been a civil engineer. Who else would run a toxic waste pipeline through a recreational area?"

7. Knock knock. Who's there? Interrupting coefficient of friction. Interrupting coefficient of fri.... mmmuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (&#65533;)

8. Two engineering students were walking across a university campus when one said, "Where did you get such a great bike?"

The second engineer replied, "Well, I was walking along yesterday, minding my own business, when a beautiful woman rode up on this bike, threw it to the ground, took off all her clothes and said, "Take what you want."

The first engineer nodded approvingly and said, "Good choice; the clothes probably wouldn't have fit you anyway."


9. An engineer was crossing a road one day, when a frog called out to him and said, "If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess."
He bent over, picked up the frog and put it in his pocket.
The frog then cried out, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a princess, I'll stay with you for one week and do ANYTHING you want."
Again, the engineer took the frog out, smiled at it and put it back into his pocket.
Finally, the frog asked, "What is the matter? I've told you I'm a beautiful princess and that I'll stay with you for one week and do anything you want. Why won't you kiss me?"
The engineer said, "Look, I'm an engineer. I don't have time for a girlfriend, but a talking frog, now that's cool."

10. A wife asks her husband, a software engineer... "Could you please go shopping for me and buy one carton of milk, and if they have eggs, get 6!"
A short time later the husband comes back with 6 cartons of milk. The wife asks him, "Why the hell did you buy 6 cartons of milk?"
He replied, "They had eggs."
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Jun 17, 2015 16:11:36   #
Steve700 wrote:
HTTP://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVGxq61McCQ & HTTP://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA-tSKiyHP0


I bet that's the way Barack sees her. :roll:
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Jun 17, 2015 16:10:03   #
no propaganda please wrote:
The CWR Blog
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To criticize someone for engaging in immoral activity is not to "h**e" that person; in point of fact, it is an act of love
June 16, 2015 12:49 EST
Fr. Robert Barron
Are you able to distinguish between these two men?

Last week, I wrote a piece on Bruce Jenner's t***sformation into Caitlyn Jenner. I argued that the manner in which Jenner spoke of his t***sition reflected a Gnostic anthropology, which is repugnant to a Biblical view of the human being. I didn't say a word about Jenner personally; I urged no violence against him/her; I didn't question his/her motives. I simply made an observation that the moral and spiritual context for t*********rism is, from a classically Christian standpoint, problematic.

Not surprisingly, the article garnered a fair amount of attention and inspired a lot of commentary, both positive and negative. Among the negative remarks were a number that criticized me for fomenting "hatred" against Jenner and against the t*********r community. Though I've come to expect this sort of reaction, I find it discouraging and the fruit of some pretty fundamental confusions.

My great mentor Robert Sokolowski long ago taught me—in one of those lapidary remarks that strikes you immediately as right and important—that philosophy is the art of making distinctions. He meant that what brings together Plato, Aristotle, Augustine, Aquinas, Kant, Hegel, and Wittgenstein is a gift for clarifying how this differs from that, how one aspect of an idea profiles itself against another, how seemingly similar concepts are in fact distinct. In executing these moves, the great philosophers made muddy water clear. What strikes me so often as I listen to the public conversation regarding moral issues is the incapacity of so many to make the right distinctions.

Some of the muddiest water surrounds the concepts of love/h**e and tolerance/intolerance. In the spirit of Sokolowski, I would like to make what I hope are some clarifying differentiations. For the mainstream of the Catholic intellectual tradition, love is not primarily an emotion, but an act of the will. To love, Thomas Aquinas says, is to want the good of the other. Consequently, hatred is not primarily a feeling, but desiring evil for another, positively wanting what is bad for someone else. Given this, when is hatred called for? When is hatred morally permissible?

The simple answer: never. God is nothing but love, and Jesus said that we are to be perfect, as our heavenly father is perfect. This is precisely why he told us to love even our enemies, to bless even those who curse us, to pray even for those who maltreat us. Does this mean that our forebears were obliged to love Hitler and that we are obliged to love ISIS murderers? Yes. Period. Does it mean that we are to will the good of those who, we are convinced, are walking a dangerous moral path? Yes. Period. Should everyone love Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner? Absolutely, completely, unconditionally.

But here is where a crucial distinction has to be made: to criticize someone for engaging in immoral activity is not to "h**e" that person. In point of fact, it is an act of love, for it is tantamount to willing good for him or her. Once the sense that there is objective good and evil has been attenuated, as it largely has been in our society, the only categories we have left are psychological ones.

And this is why, in the minds of many, to question the moral legitimacy of t*********rism is, perforce, to "attack" or "h**e" t*********red people. A very real danger that flows from the failure to make the right distinction in this regard is that moral argument evanesces. If someone who disagrees with you on an ethical matter is simply a "h**er," then you don't have to listen to his argument or engage it critically. You are permitted, in fact, to censor him, to shut him down.

Sadly, this is what obtains in much of the public arena today: the impugning of motives, the questioning of character, and the imposition of censorship. Just a few weeks ago, two Princeton faculty members, Cornel West and Robert George, had a public debate regarding same-sex marriage, West arguing for and George against. What was so refreshing was that both men, who are good friends, actually argued, that is to say, marshalled evidence, drew reasoned conclusions from premises, answered objections, etc., and neither one accused the other of "hating" advocates of the rival position. May their tribe increase.

Distinctions are called for, furthermore, regarding the word "tolerance," which is bandied about constantly today. Typically, it has come to mean acceptance and even celebration. Thus, if one is anything shy of ecstatic about gay marriage or t*********rism, one is insufficiently "tolerant." In point of fact, the term implies the willingness to countenance a view or activity that one does not agree with.

Hence, in the context of our wise political system, each citizen is required to tolerate a range of opinions that he finds puzzling, erroneous, repugnant or even bizarre. There are lots of good reasons for this toleration, the most important of which are respect for the integrity of the individual and the avoidance of unnecessary civil strife, but it by no means implies that one is obliged to accept or celebrate those perspectives. Thus, one should certainly tolerate the right of a person to become t*********red without feeling, at the same time, obliged to exult in that person's choice.

The ethical conversation has become, in the last fifty years, extraordinarily roiled. It would serve all of us to adopt an intellectual instinct of Thomas Aquinas. When he was confronted with a thorny question, he would typically begin his response with the comment "distinguo" (I distinguish).



Fr. Robert Barron is the founder of the global ministry, Word on Fire, and the Rector/President of Mundelein Seminary. He is the creator of the award winning documentary series, "Catholicism" and "Catholicism:The New Evangelization." Learn more at www.WordonFire.org.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:02:03   #
jimahrens wrote:
If your stupid People will feel sorry.
If you act stupid. Your ignored.
If you act smart People will understand.
If you are smart People will pay attention.

If you lie Your ignorant
If you tell the t***h No one believes you.
When t***h becomes reality those who lied will say I told you so.

Does this ring a bell with you?


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Sounds like Alinsky still lives.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:00:11   #
Cool Breeze wrote:
To those who are old enough to remember What is the difference between the Alan Bakke Case and The Rachel Dolezal Case! A new report from the Smoking Gun claims Rachel Dolezal—the Spokane woman who has lied for years about being African American— sued Howard University in 2002. According to court documents obtained by the site, Dolezal, who went by Rachel Moore at the time, sued the historically black college by alleging discrimination "based on race, pregnancy, family responsibilities and g****r." From the report:

She alleged that Smith and other school officials improperly blocked her appointment to a teaching assistant post, rejected her application for a post-graduate instructorship, and denied her scholarship aid while she was a student.

The court opinion also noted that Dolezal claimed that the university’s decision to remove some of her artworks from a February 2001 student exhibition was "motivated by a discriminatory purpose to favor African-American students over" her.

Two years later, a judge dismissed the lawsuit.

Earlier on Monday, Dolezal posted a letter on Facebook announcing her resignation as president of the Spokane, Washington chapter of the NAACP after the news broke that she had been pretending to be black for many years. The allegations, accompanied by her birth certificate, were made by her biological parents, both of whom are white. A Judge dismissed the case but wasn't this a case of Reverse Discrimination? The issue was never solved her lawsuit was dismissed!

The Alan Bakke Case! REGENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA v. BAKKE
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Case Basics
Docket No.
76-811
Petitioner
Regents of the University of California
Respondent
Bakke
Decided By
Burger Court (1975-1981)
Opinion
438 U.S. 265 (1978)
Argued
Wednesday, October 12, 1977
Decided
Monday, June 26, 1978
Advocates
Reynold H. Colvin
(Argued the cause for the respondent)
Archibald Cox
(Argued the cause for the petitioner)
Wade H. McCree
(Argued the cause for the United States as amicus curiae)
Tags
Civil Rights
Term:

1970-1979
1977

Location: University of California Medical School at Davis
Facts of the Case

Allan Bakke, a thirty-five-year-old white man, had twice applied for admission to the University of California Medical School at Davis. He was rejected both times. The school reserved sixteen places in each entering class of one hundred for "qualified" minorities, as part of the university's affirmative action program, in an effort to redress longstanding, unfair minority exclusions from the medical profession. Bakke's qualifications (college GPA and test scores) exceeded those of any of the minority students admitted in the two years Bakke's applications were rejected. Bakke contended, first in the California courts, then in the Supreme Court, that he was excluded from admission solely on the basis of race.
Question

Did the University of California violate the Fourteenth Amendment's equal protection clause, and the Civil Rights Act of 1964, by practicing an affirmative action policy that resulted in the repeated rejection of Bakke's application for admission to its medical school?
Argument
Regents of the University of California v. Bakke - Oral Argument
Regents of the University of California v. Bakke - Opinion Announcement
Conclusion
Decision: 5 v**es for Bakke, 4 v**e(s) against
Legal provision: Equal Protection

Split V**e

No and yes. There was no single majority opinion. Four of the justices contended that any racial quota system supported by government violated the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Justice Lewis F. Powell, Jr., agreed, casting the deciding v**e ordering the medical school to admit Bakke. However, in his opinion, Powell argued that the rigid use of racial quotas as employed at the school violated the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The remaining four justices held that the use of race as a criterion in admissions decisions in higher education was constitutionally permissible. Powell joined that opinion as well, contending that the use of race was permissible as one of several admission criteria. So, the Court managed to minimize white opposition to the goal of e******y (by finding for Bakke) while extending gains for racial minorities through affirmative action. T***h is Often Stranger than Fiction!
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How would you like your doctor to get through medical school because of quotas instead of grades ? :roll:
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Jun 17, 2015 15:53:31   #
Elwood wrote:
Thanks Pap. :-D


Just goes to show you the value of things.

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Jun 17, 2015 15:14:07   #
Elwood wrote:
A couple on an African Safari watched a small antelope being chased by a cheetah. The wife told the husband, “If the antelope survives this one, I promise I’ll give you a blow job every day for the rest of your life.”

http://youtu.be/DYDIwOnXNc8


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Jun 17, 2015 15:12:38   #
badbobby wrote:
We have enjoyed the Redneck jokes for years. It's time to
take a reflective look at the core beliefs of a culture that
values home, family, country and God. If I had to stand
before a dozen terrorists who threaten my life, I'd
choose a half dozen or so rednecks to back me up.
Tire irons, squirrel guns and grit -- that's what Rednecks are
made of. If you feel the same, pass this on to your Redneck friends.
Y'all know


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Jun 17, 2015 15:11:34   #
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
GOLF GONE WRONG .......


Well with my discerning eye, I would say there are several lessons here:

Don't Drink And Try Driving a Gold Ball or Golf Cart...

Don't try using a Gold Club taller than you are...

And all combined tell the viewer why I don't play at Golf any longer,
my sanity and your safety is worth more to me... Don D.

OH, YEA !! A DEFINITE 'MUST C' ....... Roger

http://safeshare.tv/w/lNQxKkFRoZ


It's not real golf unless you can drink beer and piss in the woods. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Jun 17, 2015 11:59:22   #
no propaganda please wrote:
Miley Cyrus has said more outrageous things recently. Here’s the latest as reported by Fox News:

“[Miley Cyrus] says she is the least judgmental person ever, yet she has some harsh words for Christian fundamentalists and her parents… [She] ‘maintains a particular contempt for fundamentalist lawmakers who rally against this sort of progressive, potentially life-saving changes [for the L**T] community.’ The pop star told the mag [Paper], ‘Those people [shouldn’t] get to make our laws.’”

The least judgmental people are usually the most judgmental and dangerous. They would be more than happy to pass laws to restrict the freedoms of people they disagree with.

Do parents still take their daughters to see Miley Cyrus concerts? She’s no Hanna Montana if she ever was. She has turned out to be the poster child for the acceptance of a decadent form of “morality” led to the destruction of entire civilizations and making it fashionable and seemingly inconsequential for her fans to adopt.

It’s a shame to see somebody self-destruct right before your eyes. Cyrus truly believes that her lifestyle choices are freeing. They’re not. The claim that she is “sexually fluid” is a cover for sexual license. She’s a woman whose worldview has been corrupted by the moral relativism of the day. She is the epitome of Theodore Dalrymple’s “life at the bottom” and Patrick Moynihan’s “defining deviancy down.”

In reality, the super-rich Cyrus is feeding middle and upper class young people a steady diet or moral corruption that in the end will make them lower class in their thinking and lifestyle choices.

Of course, moral relativists are only morally relative on things that benefit them. They have a lot to say about people who don’t buy into the morally relative worldview, a worldview that has far reaching implications once a person is fully consistent with it.

The thing of it is, moral relativists can’t be consistent and live free. They constantly borrow certain fixed moral absolutes from the worldviews they despise. They live off stolen moral capital by bankrupting the worldview from which they stole it.

Cyrus went to say in her interview with Paper magazine:

“‘I am literally open to every single thing that is consenting and doesn’t involve an animal and everyone is of age. Everything that’s legal, I’m down with. Yo, I’m down with any adult—anyone over the age of 18 who is down to love me,’ she said. ‘I don’t relate to being boy or girl, and I don’t have to have my partner relate to boy or girl.’”

On what basis can an atheist or even a modified theist fully claim that consent is the line drawn between right and wrong? Where does the concept of “consent” originate? Theirs is nothing in an atheistic/evolutionary worldview where consent is a moral constraint. “Nature, red in tooth and claw” knows nothing of consent. In the evolutionary worldview, consent to act would have severely hindered the advance of animal evolution.

Ken Ham at Answers in Genesis makes a very good point:

“Question for her: Why not involve an animal? On what basis does she decide that? Besides, if there’s no God and she’s just a result of evolution, then she is merely an animal anyway. And those she interacts with sexually are just animals—so why not any animals? In other words, she has decided to draw a line for some reason—but what reason?”

Atheist Dan Arel writing for Patheos tries to defend Cyrus:

“Apparently Ken Ham has never heard of the word consent. A word Cyrus uses herself, very clearly. Cyrus is down for anything, apparently, but she would need a consenting partner to make those things happen. An animal, etc. cannot consent to such acts.”

When one animal k**ls another animal, does the stronger animal ask for consent? When male animals engage in sex with other animals, do they ask for consent? When dogs and cats are spayed and neutered, do humans ask for consent? Does a veterinarian ask dogs and cats about to go under the knife for their consent before performing the procedure?

According to Cyrus, she’s “down with . . . everything that’s legal.” Since it’s legal to k**l and eat cows, pigs, and chickens without their consent, then I don’t see within the confines of Cyrus’ worldview why it would be morally wrong to engage sexually with animals without their consent. If you can k**l and eat a pig, how is it possible to say that it’s illegal to engage sexually with a pig?

Arel the atheist argues that “as a society, we have decided on ages for consent and when someone is mentally capable of making such decisions.” But as we’ve seen with the societal change about same-sex sexuality, societies change. What argument will Cyrus and Arel give if society changes its views on consent? What if it gives its consent that it’s OK to have sex with animals without the consent of the animals? Or what will happen if a dog or pig gives its consent?

And what if enough people wield enough political power to question that consent is something that’s required before an action takes place. Hitler, Lenin, and Mao didn’t seem to need it.


Good questions to ask those who are moral relativists. Wonder what their answers will be. Let's here from those who agree with Miley Cyrus, please. Should make a fascinating conversation.

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Heh Miley not with animals ?

There's nothing like a sow in heat. :-) :-) :roll:
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