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Aug 7, 2022 15:05:42   #
Jim0001 wrote:
"Liberals should all be judged by the thoughts and actions of a few" (your words). Absolutely because the few control the actions and speak for the many who support them.


Guess I should have signaled 'sarcasm'.

If what you say were true, then we would look a lot like the Republican party of Trump.....primarying those who don't toe the line on our dear leader's directives.
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Aug 7, 2022 14:06:54   #
elledee wrote:
I am a Trump supporter and I along with all the Trump supporters I know are not melting down...... actually we are all laughing at all the suckers who put bribem the clueless i***t in charge.


"the suckers who put bribem the clueless i***t in charge"


The language used to talk about those with whom you disagree is a clear sign of 'meltdown". Trumpists are unable to be civil except to those with whom they agree. Permanent meltdown.
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Aug 7, 2022 13:09:38   #
4430 wrote:
Apparently you never read the article


Yeah, right on: liberals should all be judged by the thoughts and actions of a few. Considering that Trumpists are in a continual state of meltdown, judging by their rhetoric, you (plural) are in no position to comment about others' 'meltdowns'.

Pot----kettle.
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Aug 6, 2022 12:10:50   #
AuntiE wrote:
The obvious point you choose to ignore is the red states have violent crime in the blue cities, ie. Atlanta, GA; St. Louis, MO, etc. If you remove those blue governed jurisdictions, red states are very very low in the list.


No, I don't choose to ignore that. Once one starts looking into the violent crime stats of comparable size run by Democrats and Republicans one can see that the crime levels are in the same range...whether in red or blue states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

It seems to me this thread is just a make believe indictment of large cities, and the folks who live in them, with no statistical back up.
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Aug 5, 2022 18:10:46   #
Maybe if Republicans were running any large cities they could make the list of running cities with increased crime rates. It's easy to blast the cities when you have no vested interest in running them.

https://b****tpedia.org/Party_affiliation_of_the_mayors_of_the_100_largest_cities

While the statistics show that crime is increasing (everywhere), the folks who are blathering about that the most are just engaging in a fear campaign. Crime isn't the worst it's ever been. A look at historical data will show it has been much worse. We are a violent society. Look at the second chart that controls for population:

https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

A quick look at violent crime rates by state shows that there are plenty of red states at the top, not just blue; and plenty of blue states at the bottom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate
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Aug 5, 2022 14:26:29   #
son of witless wrote:
Pretty damn cool for the party that says they h**e the rich. Come on Joe V**ers, defend your guys/girls.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sinema-top-private-equity-cash-recipients-removed-billionaire-tax-loophole-manchin-bill


What's to defend? Legislation has often been compared to making sausage. Not sure where you get the idea that Democrats h**e the rich....both parties benefit from being bought by the well off, especially after Citizens United. In the popular mythology, Democrats should favor the working class but heck....there's beaucoop money to made in politics now.

With the top 10% owning 70% of the wealth in the US, is it any wonder that both parties go where the money is?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/299460/distribution-of-wealth-in-the-united-states/

For me, the question isn't whether Democrats or Republicans are in power, instead i wonder when the social unrest gets really serious. I suspect the protests and r**ts of 2020 were just an appetizer to major upheavals spawned by an unsustainable distribution of wealth and power.
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Aug 4, 2022 15:39:25   #
EmilyD wrote:
That's better. At least you're not telling me that I should support people who want to stick their body parts where others take a 💩


You are a piece of work. Heterosexuals also engage in anal sex. Do you condemn them?
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Aug 4, 2022 13:29:09   #
EmilyD wrote:
You make my point very clearly...thank you.

That was a perfect example of SHOVING IT IN MY FACE!!!!! It most certainly is not about love! It's about lust and h**e....and YOU support it (no surprise there!)

GFY!


So maybe you shouldn't be posting on a thread where people disagree. Poor thing.
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Aug 4, 2022 13:27:56   #
son of witless wrote:
Good enough comeback. I cannot believe that you are still here. " But you, too, are using misdirection by limiting the discussion to schools, as that is only one part of the issue. You acknowledged that harassment and threats of violence do occur to private businesses but dismiss it as 'victimization virtue signaling'. "

What I am doing is not misdirection because this topic was posted as the NY City Council Woman taking heat for opposing D**g Q***n Hour in Public Schools.

As you might have guessed I do not give a Rat's Rear End about L***Q and D**g Q***ns. I do not worry myself into a frazzle about whether somebody such as you thinks I am a Bigot. I have been called that so many times falsely that it has no meaning to me. Now that said, I do not support anyone who threatens L***Q and D**g Q***ns.

Those of us who oppose D**g Q***n Hour in Schools are not associated with those who threaten or harass L***Q and D**g Q***ns in private Businesses, and we sure as shinola do not need to support L***Q and D**g Q***ns in Public Schools to assuage our White Guilt about them being threatened and harassed in private businesses.

You go ahead and link the two things in your mind if it is what you need to do to deal with your own personal guilt.
Good enough comeback. I cannot believe that you ar... (show quote)


When did I call you a bigot? I thought I was quite civil to you, even in disagreement.
And what personal guilt do I need to deal with.....now the thread is going off the rails.
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Aug 4, 2022 07:48:11   #
son of witless wrote:
" However, private businesses are also being harassed and threatened with violence for hosting such events. How is that acceptable? "

Misdirection on your part. I must say, I am impressed. Let me explain. We are only discussing D**g Q***n Hour in the Schools and whether anyone who is appalled by this has a right to speak against it with out being savagely attacked.

Now you wish to widen the discussion by bringing in private businesses hosting D**g Q***n Events, plus the alleged harassment and threats of violence against those private business events. That's misdirection. Nice try.

I speculate, because I have no way of knowing, that D**g Q***ns and their events are routinely subjected to harassment and threats in private businesses. You are cleverly linking that harassment and those threats, to parents and this Councilwoman objecting to School Children being exposed to D**g Q***n Hour.

Kudos for giving it the old college try, but it is a false linkage. It is more victimization virtue signaling which the Left has perfected. Prior attempts by the Left were making false claims of systematic r****m against the Police and all White People. You seem to be sincere in your arguments so far. As am I. Generally this is the point where everything goes off the rails.
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You missed the part where I said you made a fair point and that I glossed over the school issue by focusing on the vitriol. I also said that early school is probably not a good place for such things.

But you, too, are using misdirection by limiting the discussion to schools, as that is only one part of the issue. You acknowledged that harassment and threats of violence do occur to private businesses but dismiss it as 'victimization virtue signaling'.

Now, I suspect, were we both to acknowledge the weaknesses of our positions (mine on the school issue, yours on harassment and threats) we could have a reasonable outcome to a larger discussion, say around a campfire, rather than run it off the rails.
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Aug 4, 2022 07:33:30   #
4430 wrote:
>> Yeah, I get it. Back in your day it was ok to beat up the 'sissies' right? <<

>>And you did it and now you want to do it again..<<

Hogwash it was too a personal attack now you're back pedaling !


Nope...."you" can also refer to a group, in this case the right wing homophobes. If you're part of that group, then the shoe fits. If not, then I was not referring to you.
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Aug 4, 2022 07:29:38   #
EmilyD wrote:
Yes you made that clear. You also made clear that you support homosexuals, so....here it is:

I am tired of everybody being labeled a bigot or h********c because they don't agree with the lesbian, gay, bisexual and t*********r group. Businesses are being threatened with bad publicity or their establishments being burned to the ground. Politicians are being forced to go against their own principles and morals to appease a small group (about 5% of the population) of people. Politicians were elected to represent the majority. The majority of the people are against gay marriage. If this issue was v**ed on at the b****t box, I guarantee it would not pass because the majority of the people would v**e against it.

I have friends and family who are gay. I don't like this issue being crammed down my throat. I believe the majority of the people feel they are being force-fed the gay marriage issue. I feel that two men together and two women together goes completely against nature. If they want to be together, that is fine. They need to keep it to themselves, behind closed doors like heterosexual people want to when they have sex. This whole issue is about people having sex with each other, and that is something that belongs in the privacy of their own homes, not prancing down the street looking like clowns or reading books in libraries dressed like clowns. Everyone is afraid to say anything for the fear of being labeled. People need to stand up for what they believe in and not be bullied.
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I don't care if you are tired of being labeled a bigot. If the shoe fits, wear it. Gay marriage is about rights, not sex. What's it to you how people dress, who someone loves, if people hold hands on the street, if I support gay rights?
You're still free to be the bigoted person you were, are, and forever will be. If anyone is bullying, it's you.
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Aug 3, 2022 18:37:43   #
son of witless wrote:
Hold on thar. Things are not as cut and dry as you make out. The school district must be rolling in dough. If they can waste $ 200 Grand on this nonsense, then I think the taxpayers should get a refund. School is about teaching, not about wasting good money to teach garbage so that an ideology can be imprinted on young children. The good people in the school administration responsible for this travesty need to be fired.

You said " No one is forcing parents to d**g their children to d**g hour. " Well then either YOU or the NY Post don't know what you are talking about. From the NY Post article. " STAR Academy parents were told of the in-school d**g session ahead of time, Neverson said — but could not opt their kids out of it. "

So which is it ? Are you right and the NY Post is WRONG ??????????????????????

https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/over-200k-being-spent-on-d**g-queen-shows-at-nyc-schools/
Hold on thar. Things are not as cut and dry as you... (show quote)


You make a fair point. Early school is probably not the right environment for such an event. The school part of the first article didn't sink in, just the vitriol of the tweeter.
However, private businesses are also being harassed and threatened with violence for hosting such events. How is that acceptable?
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Aug 3, 2022 18:32:54   #
EmilyD wrote:
What part of "shoving it in our faces" don't you get? I didn't say go back anywhere or pretend anything. Just stop trying to MAKE us believe what you believe! We have just as much a right to think what you are doing is wrong as you do thinking what you're doing is right. Live your lives. Do your thing, but stop parading around in clown costumes, outlandish "women's" clothing and acting like primadonnas.

AND LEAVE OUR CHILDREN ALONE!!!!!


You really aren't paying attention to what I write, are you? I'm a happily married heterosexual. I don't parade in costumes, etc.
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Aug 3, 2022 18:10:29   #
EmilyD wrote:
We are proposing that you STOP shoving it in our faces!! Go home, do what you do with each other in the PRIVACY of your own homes and stop trying to make us all believe that what you're doing with each other is natural and right.

If you want us to stop bothering you, stop bothering us!!!


You make this personal. I'm a happily married heterosexual.

Yet from my perspective your 'stop shoving it in our faces' means 'go back in the closet and let me pretend you don't exist'.
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