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Jan 21, 2020 17:20:56   #
So, when is the 1st Resurrection?

Revelation 20:4-5
King James Version
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
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Jan 21, 2020 16:52:20   #
I presented scriptures and verses pertaining to the return of Christ in the air after the tribulation of the Anti-Christ but before the wrath of God upon the earth. I cannot refute the scriptures.

Christ returns with his bride to the battle in Armeggedon, destroys Babylon, binds Satan, and rules for 1,000 years. More to follow.
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Jan 21, 2020 16:05:19   #
Zelenski has already statement that he was not pressured.

An impeachment trial is a criminal trial. The Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach and remove "The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" upon a determination that such officers have engaged in treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. ... Hearsay is not admissible in criminal trials.

Therefore, the President should be acquitted and the case dismissed.
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Jan 17, 2020 12:50:13   #
To think that Christians will not go through the tribulation is not biblical. There are a lot of saints that were persecuted during new testament times. Many even suffered martyrdom. Many Christians have also been killed since that time. However, The saints will not have to endure the wrath of God which is to poured out upon the earth after the Lord comes for his bride.

This clearly supports a post-tribulation pre-millennial return of Christ. Please reply.
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Jan 17, 2020 12:39:29   #
Christ comes after the anti-christ sets up his image which will be set up 3 1/2 years into the tribulation period. The anti-christ will reign for 3 1/2 years.

Revelation 13
King James Version
13 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


Christ comes back immediately after the tribulation of those days. See verse 29 below.

Mathew 24:14-31
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


As cited previously, the anti-christ will be sitting on the throne in Jerusalem when Jesus returns in the sky.
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Jan 16, 2020 18:07:00   #
2 Thessalonians 2
King James Version
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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Jan 16, 2020 18:03:08   #
Revelation 15
King James Version
15 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.

2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:

6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.

7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.

8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.
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Jan 16, 2020 18:00:29   #
1 Thessalonians 4:13-17
King James Version
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
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Jan 16, 2020 17:52:34   #
Zemirah wrote:
Interesting.

This is not my thread, but as you addressed me, I'm happy to reply.

Thank you, Mr. Rogers, for sharing your belief on the rapture and the millennial... but without giving a Biblical reference, i.e., chapter or verse, or any other source for your opinion.

You appear to have conflated a portion of 1st Thessalonians, 2nd Thessalonians, the 11th chapter of Daniel, and at least two verses from the 4th chapter of the book of Revelation.

The 1st resurrection (of the dead in Christ) takes place at the time of the Rapture, and also, the Rapture IS the coming of Christ in the air for His bride.

It can not take place both after the 1st three and one half years of the seven year tribulation, when the anti-Christ presents himself as God, and also after the seven year tribulation.

It is either pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib, not two out of three.

Would you care to elaborate on why you believe as you stated?
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From my understanding of the scriptures. Jesus comes back after the 7 years of the tribulation have been completed. The anti-christ will be sitting on the throne in the temple at Jerusalem. Jesus will take away his bride (the 1st resurrection and the rapture, simultaneously) and then God will have his angels pour out the bowls of wrath upon the earth. Please reply.
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Jan 15, 2020 17:47:23   #
Democrats are already ushering in the persecution of Christians and Jews in America. They are fighting against (instead of with) the God of America.
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Jan 15, 2020 17:46:16   #
Democrats are already ushering in the persecution of Christians and Jews in America. They are fighting against (instead of with) the God of America.
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Jan 15, 2020 17:42:28   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
In this particular case, a senate trial, the subpoenas are binding and enforceable.


And the "obstruction of Congress" article of impeachment is only valid if the President does not appear if he is subpoenaed by the Senate.
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Jan 15, 2020 17:39:21   #
Pariahjf wrote:
A c*******t country can hire anyone they want to to work for them. And pay them wh**ever they want. Just like any business owner here in the US can do. The Bidens have nothing to do with the impeachment. Stick to the task at hand.


The "abuse of power" article of impeachment states that President was abusing his power by investigating Biden. He has everything to do with it.
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Jan 15, 2020 17:36:58   #
Has Pelosi and her hand picked managers taken the stand?
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Jan 15, 2020 17:34:35   #
Liberty Tree wrote:
They will not come. They will fight it just to d**g it out. Democrats idea of fairness is just call the witnesses they want.


The evidence for impeachment should be reviewed and "dismissed with prejudice.""
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