Mr. Bill, I also live in Arizona and personally saw the effects when AZ passed a Law stating that employers who were found to have i******s working for them would be prosecuted. It was, I believe in 2008, and the apartment complex that I was living very badly in, emptied out about two-thirds of it's population, all Mexicans! It was a now ya see'um now ya don't thing from one day to the next. I am also becoming aware, just by watching the news once in a while, that at least 90% of the Mexicans here have guns, i*****l a***n, illegal gun! I actually would bet that now, since unemployment benefits have FINALLY ended for those who have been milking it, that there will be a lot of w***e A******ns willing to take the migrant jobs. Not only do the i******s help themselves to healthcare and other benefits, they send a lot of the money that they make to Mexico! Why do you think that there are check cashing businesses all over the place? I guarantee that these places do not report anything and that way the i******s do not have to have Bank accounts!

Let's see, let me count the ways....
1.- Utter failure in foreign affairs, B******i, Syria, Iran.
2.- ACA s**m, veiled wealth distribution.
3.- Has done more to set back black rights than the KKK.

But you folks can't be talking about the v**ers kicking everybody out of Washington, case in Point, in 2012 the Congressional approval was 9%, however 94% of incumbents were re-elected. The masses are not informed and they will not exert themselves to become so, they'll v**e for who ever gives away more.

The ONLY way to make anything happen is massive protests at every single Governing body in each and every state, from the smallest town to the seat of the Federal Government. What do you think Obama was actually good at? A community organizer!

Some one has been writing the script for Obama since they found out that he is a good cheerleader. He has constantly been told that he is good enough, good enough to be a State Senator, good enough to be a U.S. Senator and lastly, good enough to be President. He had no outstanding accomplishments even in Columbia, which he was not qualified to even get into, ie., somebody pulled strings! He had no distinguishing legislation to his credit in the state senate, was a U.S. Senator for only a short period of time, most of that spent campaigning for President. Apparently he asked his henchmen/handlers to come up with something to build a Legacy on.... They did, the Affordable care Act, one of the most callous attempts ever to redistribute the wealth! How? Write in requirements for Healthcare policies for preventative healthcare and the inclusion, AT NO EXTRA COST of people with pre-existing conditions. So what happens is that the insurance companies come up with a new paradigm for health care policies, factoring the cost restrictive elements in and coming up with much higher premiums and at the same time cancelling the old policies, whoops, so much for "If you like the policy you have now you can keep it". Example: A man makes 60,000$ a year, the cheapest healthcare insurance he can get costs 482$ a month and has a 5000$ deductible! However a person who makes 1000$ a month pays 4.50$ a month for the same policy, no deductible. Get it?

No Legacy is as pure as the t***h - William Shakespeare

Trust me folks, if you want to avoid bankruptcy, stay out of hospitals, it doesn't matter if it is a "Biggy" or a run of the mill hospital, it will eat you alive if you stay there!

12Leon21,

Really a well thought out TRICKY moniker, just like your STUPID comment. I can't believe that the regular commentators in this forum would even bother to answer anything as crass and open-ended, or is that empty-headed?

Neil Cavuto, Fox News, stated the following directly to President Obama on his daily afternoon program last Thursday.

The points he makes just couldn't be made any better.

Obama is blaming Fox News for 2/3 of the country disliking Obamacare. Here's Neil Cavuto's explanation and it is great. If you don't understand what is bad about ObamaCare please read his comments and you will understand.



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Mr. President, Fox News isn't what's making Americans sick about your healthcare law. Your healthcare law is. Welcome, everybody, I'm Neil Cavuto. And excuse this departure from form. But I think this is just poor form. So, it's time we set some things straight.

Mr. President, we at Fox News are not the problem. I h**e to break it to you, sir. You are. Your words are. Your promises are. We didn't sell this healthcare law. Sir, you did. Remember this?

President Barack Obama: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period.

Mr. President, tell that to tens of thousands of retirees at IBM and Time Warner and dozens of others, who've been dumped from their coverage and told to find their own coverage. Fox News didn't break that news to them, Mr. President. Their companies did.

Fox News didn't push more of those firms to hire part-time workers. Your healthcare law did.

Fox News didn't incentivize fast food restaurants to scale back their benefits. Your healthcare law did.

Fox News didn't make doctors want to opt out. Your healthcare law did.

Fox News didn't make insurance premiums skyrocket. Your healthcare law did.

Just like Fox News didn't grant hundreds of exemptions to companies that needed them. You did. And Fox News didn't delay one key provision after another, including online enrollment for those small business exchanges. You did.

Just like it wasn't Fox News that said we had to pass this to see what was in this. You did. Or was that Nancy Pelosi? Sometimes I'm confused. But of this I am not. Fox News didn't re-do basic math. Sir, you did.

Fox News didn't say you can cover 30 million more Americans and not see a hit in premiums. You did.

Fox News didn't say you could throw in those with pre-existing conditions and not have to pay for it. You did.

Fox News didn't all but say you could get something for nothing. You did.

Fox News didn't come back years later and say, oh yea, we did raise some taxes. You did.

Here's where you are right about Fox News, however, Mr. President. We can do math. And did. You cannot. And did not. We said it, and proved it. You didn't. And we're all suffering for it. Take it from the numbers guy at Fox. Numbers don't lie.

The number of Americans working part-time and nervous.

The number of retirees days away from being dumped on exchanges and anxious.

The number of company bosses with any news to pass along on those exchanges, but still clueless.

The number of doctors who want out.

The number of congressmen now opting out. No, Mr. President, none of those numbers lie.

But with all due respect sir, I can only conclude you do know; I know, I know you h**e us at Fox. But please take a look in a mirror, and fast. You think we're the skunk at your picnic. But that doesn't mean we're the ones that stink. Because that smell isn't coming from the folks reporting on your law. Mr. President, that smell is your law.

"NO LEGACY IS SO RICH AS THE T***H" - William Shakespeare

None of you will remember this and I can't either, really. When Congress passed Medicare into Law there was much the same flail of pros and cons as with the ACA. Turned out that Medicare turned out well and works to this day. The hard part is the 20% that it doesn't cover. I just hope that the ACA and/or KING Obama doesn't screw with it!

If you look at the AKA, when it came to be, most Americans were covered under company healthcare plans so the AKA was REALLY aimed at about 32 million people who have no healthcare and are not in a company that provides healthcare. So what started out as a plan to cover 10% of the population (maybe it was aimed at that, no one really knows what goes on inside Obama's head, much less himself because he is being guided and always has been), Now has EVERYONE either searching for a new policy or paying higher rates on their old policy (with a few tweaks), OR WORKING PART TIME AND TRYING TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT!

Hey everybody, why would you comment on a three word comment from some twerp who was simply looking for a reaction?

Ah Yeah, other than star and parob2005, I get an idea that someone is thinking here! Star, if you are going to berate immigrants for not knowing English, spellcheck what you write and punctuate it. You are right on one thing though, in other countries you must learn the language, I lived in Spain for 25 years, it took me a year and lots of practice to speak Spanish properly, actually I had no choice, nobody spoke English there. Parob2005 old boy, your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
Rangel knows only one thing, how to get re-elected, to even suggest that Executive orders should be used exclusively is t*****r talk and his constituents and peers should immediately impeach him, recall him and maybe introduce him to the Constitution
Trust me fellow travelers we are at the same place as a country as we were in 2012. Congress has a 9% approval rating, guess what percentage of sitting Congressmen were re-elected in 2012??? 94%!
What does that tell you? It means several things but the most prominent is that the must v**e people like labor unions and government workers, along with the majority who are living off the system always v**e, the rest of us are laid back, watching the TV and letting George do it!
Mr. Rangel's view on Obama care is that of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, which means they haven't read it yet!

E-Mail to Congresswoman Kysten Sinema D-AZ

Thank you for answering my e-mail. I believe that holding the website people accountable, along with the process used to choose them, is certainly the move that Americans expect! The Healthcare Act, as written, applied to about ten percent of the population or thirty two million people.

Self employed one or two person businesses.

People whose small companies cannot afford to provide Health Insurance.

People who are moving from company to company just to have a job.

Many younger people who think themselves to be immortal, simply blow off Health Insurance, the Health Care law, in no way, will force these people to get health insurance.

The insurance companies who have in place health insurance policies based on models and statistics, after trudging through 1300 some odd pages of the political health care law have already decided to cancel existing policies since the health care law mandates on admitting people with pre-existing conditions, and preventative health care are WAY beyond the existing insurance paradigm. This fact will make Obama Care appear to be a savior since the people and companies affected will have no other place to turn except for the "exchange marketplaces", where they will be able to get the required insurance at a MUCH higher price.

Most of the above mentioned people just go to the emergency room and are cared for, and do not pay the bill, most cannot. So We the People get to prop up the hospitals so they don't go under because of the aforementioned. Many of these people are automatically enrolled in Medicare by the hospitals, Again, We pay.

Obama's Legacy?? Incompetence.

Wiretaps: Hillary's Scandal? By DICK MORRIS Published on TheHill.com on October 29, 2013

The wiretapping of the personal cellphones of 35 foreign leaders, including our closest allies, is clearly President Obama's scandal. But is it also Hillary Clinton's?
Obama claims he knew nothing about the unprecedented spying, and The Wall Street Journal reported that he shut it down when he found out last summer.
The question for him, of course, is: Why didn't he know?
The important question for the former secretary of State, on the other hand, is: What did she know? And why didn't she speak out against it?
We know this: Clinton -- and Obama -- routinely received wiretap intercepts and briefings on the intelligence gathered. Documents released by whistle-blower Edward Snowden specify that the State Department was a "customer" for the information the surveillance unearthed.
How could the chief foreign policy officer not know we were wiretapping our allies? If she didn't know about it beforehand, didn't the very nature of the intel received tip her off that we were collecting highly personal information on foreign leaders that could only have come from intrusive taps?
And what about the tapping of foreign leaders' cellphones and hacking of their emails at the London 2009 Group of 8 meeting? Apparently the purpose was to determine their positions -- before any v**e. The National Security Agency monitored then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev's personal communications immediately after he met with Obama and subsequently issued a report that left no doubt about the tapping: "This is an analysis of signal activity in support of President Dmitry Medvedev's visit to London."
So who received that information? We shared it with high-ranking officials in Britain, and other countries. Are we really supposed to believe that we didn't give it to our own president and top diplomat? Who but the president and secretary of State would have immediate use for those details?
We also know this about Clinton: the record shows that she's been interested in personal information about foreign leaders in the past.
The 2010 WikiLeaks included a cable sent to our embassy in Buenos Aires seeking highly personal details about Argentine President Christina Fernández, including questions about her medications, her daily time with her husband, her method of dealing with stress and, specifically, "how do [her] emotions affect her decision-making and how does she calm down when distressed?"
Now, what important foreign policy issue did those questions advance?
There's more. In a cable sent out under Clinton's name, a massive program of surveillance of foreign leaders affiliated with the United Nations was created.
WikiLeaks revealed a "National Humint [human intelligence] Collection Directive" that directed State Department officials to conduct surveillance and even theft of property directed at top ranking U.N. officials.
The memo suggests stealing credit card data from a number of top officials, obtaining DNA samples and learning their personal passwords and encryption codes
The directive was sent to 33 U.S. embassies and targeted U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon, his assistants, the heads of all U.N. agencies and the delegations of all permanent members of the Security Council. No distinction was made between the delegations of allies like France and the United Kingdom and adversaries like Russia and China.
This kind of intrusive tactic is nothing new for Clinton. Remember that during the 1992 p**********l campaign, she approved hiring private detectives (paid with campaign funds) to amass compromising information on women who claimed to have been sexually involved with her husband.
Suddenly, reports surfaced of a******ns, bankruptcies, messy divorces and high school and college misconduct in the lives of women who got in her husband's way. The detectives she hired -- who we've called the "secret police" -- were doing their work. And the women went away.
In view of Clinton's historical affinity for personal surveillance and the evidence that it continues, we're entitled to answers about how this possible future president of the United States was involved in the decision to compromise our relations with some of our most important allies.
Clinton recently called for "an adult conversation" about spying.
Let's hear it.

COMMENT: Even the passing mention of Hillary Clinton becoming President of The United States brings me almost as close to the vomit point as mentioning that Barack Obama IS the President of the United States. (Not because he is black, sort of, but because I don't give s**t about that, never have. The reason I detest even the thought of him is based on what he is doing to the country, figure it out!) Hillary has a set of balls, got to admit that. To even think that she could be a reasonably good leader is very suspect. Why didn't she divorce "good old Bill" when all of his conquests became evident? Because she needed him and his cronies to bilk the people into thinking that she had something to offer! Her "handling" of the slaughter in Libya was unacceptable even for a grade school girl!

ObamaCare Will Create Its Own Demand By DICK MORRIS Published on DickMorris.com on October 30, 2013

Question: Now that it appears that 16 million Americans will lose the health insurance they currently have as a result of ObamaCare, where will they turn for coverage?
Answer: ObamaCare
By the middle of next year, President Obama and his team are going to have to face the embarrassment of few enrollees in ObamaCare. They will have to explain why more than three-quarters of the new enrollees are signing up in the Medicaid program rather than in his new ObamaCare.
But they may be spared the embarrassment. The very people who are now contentedly covered by individual policies and are about to be thrown off coverage will be the forced clients of ObamaCare.
The Affordable Care Act will have created a demand for itself.
The 16 million Americans likely to lose coverage are holding individual policies. The ACA law says that anyone who had a policy as of March 23, 2010 can keep the policy and it will suffice to meet the mandate in ObamaCare. But, the feds have ruled that if the policy was changed in any way since then, it may not be grand-fathered in-- even if it was made more comprehensive.
Why did the bureaucrats at Health and Human Services build this regulation into the law? Why deliberately cause the cancellation of millions of policies, often over technicalities? Why cause the president to violate his signature commitment that "if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan?"
Could it have been that they wanted to dump people from individual coverage into the exchanges and closer to a single payer system? Was it that they realized that ObamaCare might be short of enrollees and might need the massive numbers of new customers, even if they did not have insurance because ObamaCare had cancelled it?
But the fact remains that most of the new people covered by the ObamaCare exchanges will be folks who were contented with their coverage all along and were forced to give up their policies and go to the exchanges whether they wanted it or not.

COMMENT: I think that most people will find out how much health insurance is going to cost and, if they can qualify, opt for Medicaid! Look at the logic: If someone has a good job with healthcare paid for by his company he is getting a good yawn out of the health care rhetoric. If a person has a mediocre job and is between 20 and 40 he will also yawn because he really thinks he doesn't need health care insurance for 3 or 4 hundred dollars a month and buy a used car instead! By the way people with NO job who show up at the hospital are automatically enrolled in Medicaid by the Hospital.

“Why can’t I keep my insurance?” Because you’re stupid, sweetie. By Ann Barnhardt

Okay. This all goes to my screaming rants that people are responsible for their government. I’m getting really s**k of people acting all indignant and acting like they’re being ambushed by this whole ObamaCare thing.

“Er my gawsh, y’all! My insurance bill just quadrupled. I’m serious you guys!”

Well, no kidding. What in the blue fiery blazes did you expect? Let’s see. Insurance is risk pooling. A bunch of people get together and pay a small amount of money into a pool, and then when one of the people has an a*****e e***t happen to them, the frequency of which can be broadly statistically predicted, then the pool pays out to the unlucky person who had the a*****e e***t happen to them.

Now let’s see. From DAY FLIPPING ONE the Obama regime has been saying that mean old insurance companies will not be able to turn away customers with pre-existing conditions – in other words, insurance companies will have to let people JOIN THE RISK POOL … AFTER THE RISK EVENT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.

Um, yeah. That is the total, complete destruction of the entire insurance paradigm. This isn’t my opinion. This is a mathematical fact … an extremely simple and elementary mathematical fact. If people who have already had the adverse risk event happen to them must be allowed into the risk pool, then it is no longer a risk pool. It is a wealth redistribution s**m that victimizes the TOTAL, COMPLETE MORONS who enter and pay into the “pool” without already having had the risk event happen to them.

How can a nation of 330 million people, iniquitous gutter republic though it may be, not understand this? How can a nation of 330 million people have their tyrannical regime tell them in no uncertain terms that the entire insurance paradigm is going to be destroyed by said regime, and then when it happens everyone acts all shocked?

Oh, and then add onto that the fact that ObamaCare requires insurance to cover all kinds of bee-ess “preventative” and “elective” services. Well, if every single person in a risk pool is guaranteed to have a claim because the coverage is no longer for catastrophes, but also for purely non-emergent, elective pseudomedicine and outright quackery, then what do you expect? The “pool” has to collect more than it pays out. Period.

Finally, Karl Denninger broke the news today that most ObamaCare-compliant insurance has wicked in-network restrictions. As in if you receive any healthcare “out of network” you get ZERO coverage – and there is not one word of disclosure of any of this until AFTER you have bought the policy. And “out of network” has gone from generally meaning within a STATE to within a COUNTY, because, you know, competition is BAD or something.

So let’s recap. ObamaCare requires you to pay for slaughtering babies. We have known this for years. It utterly destroys the insurance paradigm by mathematical definition and necessity. We have known this since day one because it is a pure function of logic and math. Doctors and health professionals are retiring and quitting by the thousands. This has been happening for years. Your insurance premiums, which are now “mandatory” according to the state – yes, the state is now dictating to you that you MUST purchase a SERVICE COMMODITY as a condition of LEGALLY WAKING UP BREATHING in the iniquitous gutter republic and steaming satanic cesspit of baby-k*****g, sodomy and theft formerly known as the united states of america, have now skyrocketed, and you would have to be dumber than a box of hair to not see that coming.

Well, at what point does the inability to think through excruciatingly simple logical progressions and their inevitable consequences become moral culpability? At what point does the tolerance of the utterly irrational call down the thunder upon one’s own head? At what point does shrugging one’s shoulders at the blood-soaked ground beneath one’s own feet and muttering some sissy bee-ess about “not having any choice” become full-blown cooperation?

Right now. Right. Flipping. Now.

ObamaCare is yours now. YOU personally own it, because you refuse to do ANYTHING to stop it, and you have known from day one what it was and thus what it would do.

1. Media strike 2. Tax strike 3. General strike 4. Armed counter-revolution

Step 4 should have happened YEARS ago.

Please note that sitting on your butt and sending emails to all of your friends saying, “Isn’t this awful,” and, “Someone really should do something about this,” isn’t accomplishing anything, and your inaction is emboldening the enemy with each passing day.

COMMENT: Ann Barnhardt, (Barnhardt.biz) is an ex-commodities trader in cattle and grain who, a couple of years ago, closed down her business and returned outstanding monies to her clients stating that since ex-Goldman-Sachs crook, Jon Corzine, CEO of MF Global had stolen all of the money in that futures concern, and due to the fact that the Chicago mercantile exchange did nothing to make good those losses, that she could not tell her clients to keep entrusting their money to MF Global. She then declared a tax strike since the Federal Government did nothing to make good the losses either, having recently lost EVERYTHING she had worked for to the I.R.S.. She is read by many and does her homework, although she is thoroughly disgusted with the huge percentage of i***ts who actually live and v**e in this ex-republic, not democracy, republic!

(Las Vegas Review-Journal, April, 3 2013)Barack Hussein Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. On the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within. Barack Hussein Obama was my college classmate (Columbia University, class of '83). He is a devout Muslim; do not be fooled. Look at his czars... Anti-business anti-American. As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Barack Hussein Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually, they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a Socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival. And can be counted on to always v**e for even bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it. Universal Health Care:

The Health Care bill has very little to do with healthcare. It has everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and healthcare workers as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn't care that giving free healthcare to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million v**ers to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?

Cap and Trade:

Like healthcare legislation having nothing to do with healthcare, Cap and Trade has nothing to do with g****l w*****g. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy, and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors. Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama spread the wealth around.

Making Puerto Rico a state: Who's asking for a 51st state? Who's asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression? Certainly not American taxpayers! But this has been Barack Hussein Obama's plan all along. His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressmen and a million loyal Democratic v**ers who are dependent on big government. (This will tip the balance of those living off the government to more than those who must pay for it; and we're done for.)

Legalize 12 million illegal Mexican immigrants:

Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free healthcare alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America. But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat v**ers who can be counted on to support big government. Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security. (see note above re: Puerto Rico)

Stimulus and bailouts

Where did all that money go? It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country. It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues). All those public employees will v**e loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America. The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful. The ends justify the means. Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except v**e for Obama). Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Barack Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition. With the acts outlined above, Barack Hussein Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of v**ers dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system. Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme all devised by my Columbia University college classmate Barack Hussein Obama using the Cloward-Piven Strategy. Last point: think about what this designed rule of the rabble will do to anyone successful and everyone receiving this is. What will your lives be like under C*******m? The time to fight this a*********n is now. I hope each of you will share this with your friends.

COMMENT: check and see if the next article has anything to do with the above.

Subject: Obamacare is a success

By Wayne Allyn Root > > Published October 21, 2013 > > FoxNews.com > >

There are two major political parties in America. I’m a member of the naïve, stupid, and cowardly one. I’m a Republican. > > How stupid is the GOP? They still don’t get it. > > I told them 5 years ago, 2 books ago, a national bestseller ago ("The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide"), and in hundreds of articles and commentaries, that Obama Care was never meant to help America, or heal the sick, or lower healthcare costs, or lower the debt, or expand the economy. > > The GOP needs to stop calling Obama Care a “ train wreck.” That means it’s a mistake, or accident. That means it’s a gigantic flop, or failure. It’s NOT. >> Message to the GOP: This isn’t a game. This isn’t tiddly - winks. This is a serious, purposeful attempt to hijack America and destroy capitalism. > > This is a brilliant, cynical, and purposeful attempt to damage the U.S. economy, k**l jobs, and bring down capitalism. > > It’s not a failure, it’s Obama’s grand success. > > It’s not a “train wreck,” Obama Care is a suicide attack. He wants to hurt us, to bring us to our knees, to capitulate- so we agree under duress to accept big government. > > Obama’s hero and mentor was Saul Alinsky -- a radical Marxist intent on destroying capitalism. Alinsky’s stated advice was to call the other guy “a terrorist” to hide your own intentions. > > To scream that the other guy is “ruining America,” while you are the one actually plotting the destruction of America. To claim again and again…in every sentence of every speech…that you are “saving the middle class,” while you are busy wiping out the middle class. > > The GOP is so stupid they can’t see it. There are no mistakes here. This is a planned purposeful attack. > > The tell-tale sign isn’t the disastrous start to Obama Care. Or the devastating effect the new taxes are having on the economy. Or the death of full-time jobs. Or the overwhelming debt. Or the dramatic increases in health insurance rates. Or the 70% of doctors now thinking of retiring- bringing on a healthcare crisis of unimaginable proportions. Forget all that. > > The real sign that this is a purposeful attack upon capitalism is how many Obama administration members and Democratic Congressmen are openly calling Tea Party Republicans and anyone who wants to stop Obama Care “terrorists.” > > There’s the clue. Even the clueless GOP should be able to see that. > > They are calling the reasonable people…the patriots…the people who believe in the Constitution ... the people who believe exactly what the Founding Fathers believed…the people who want to take power away from corrupt politicians who have put America $17 trillion in debt…terrorists? > > That’s because they are Saul Alinsky-ing the GOP. The people trying to purposely hurt America, capitalism and the middle class…are calling the patriots by a terrible name to fool, confuse and distract the public. > > Obama Care is a raving, rollicking, fantastic success. Stop calling it a failure. Here is what it was created to do. It is succeeding on all counts: > >

1. Obama Care was intended to bring about the Marxist dream -- redistribution of wealth. > Rich people, small business owners, and the middle class are being robbed, so that the money can be redistributed to poor people (who v**e for Democrats). > > Think about it. If you’re rich or middle class, you now have to pay for your own health care costs (at much higher rates) AND 40 million other people’s costs too (through massive tax increases). > > So you’re stuck paying for both bills. You are left broke. Brilliant. > >

2. Obama Care was intended to wipe out the middle class and make them dependent on government. >Think about it. Even Obama’s IRS predicts that health insurance for a typical American family by 2016 will be $20,000 per year. But how would middle class Americans pay that bill and have anything left for food or housing or living? People that make $40K, or $50K, or $60K can’t possibly hope to spend $20K on health insurance without becoming homeless. > > Bingo. That’s how you make middle class people dependent on government. That’s how you make everyone addicted to government checks. Brilliant. > >

3. As a bonus, Obama Care is intended to k**l every decent paying job in the economy, creating only crummy, crappy part-time jobs. > Why? Just to make sure the middle class is trapped, with no way out. Just to make sure no one has the $20,000 per year to pay for health insurance, thereby guaranteeing they become wards of the state. Brilliant. > >

4. Obama Care is intended to bankrupt small business, and therefore starve donations to the GOP. >Think about it. Do you know a small business owner? I know hundreds of them. Their rates are being doubled, tripled and quadrupled by Obama Care. > > Guess who writes 75% of the checks to Republican candidates and conservative causes? The GOP. > > Even if a small business owner manages to survive, he or she certainly can’t write a big check to the GOP anymore. Money is the “mother’s milk” of politics. Without donations, a political party ceases to exist. Bingo. > > That’s the point of Obama Care. Obama is bankrupting his political opposition and drying up donations to the GOP. Brilliant. > >

5. Obama Care is intended to make the IRS all-powerful. > It adds thousands of new IRS agents. It puts the IRS in charge of overseeing 15% of the U.S. economy. The IRS has the right because of Obama Care to snoop into every aspect of your life, to go into your bank accounts, to fine you, to frighten you, to intimidate you. And Obama and his socialist cabal have access to your deepest medical secrets. > > By law your doctor has to ask your sexual history. That information is now in the hands of Obama and the IRS to blackmail GOP candidates into either not running, or supporting bigger government, or leaking the info and ruining your campaign. > > Or have you forgotten the IRS harassed, intimidated and persecuted critics of Obama and conservative groups? > > Now Obama hands the IRS even more power. Big Brother rules our lives. Brilliant. > >

6. Obama Care is intended to unionize 15 million healthcare workers. > That produces $15 billion in new union dues. That money goes to fund Democratic candidates and socialist causes -- thereby guaranteeing Obama’s friends never lose another e******n, and Obama’s policies keep ruining capitalism and bankrupting business owners long after he’s out of office. > > Message to the GOP: This isn’t a game. This isn’t tiddly-winks. This is a serious, purposeful attempt to hijack America and destroy capitalism. > > This isn’t a train wreck. It's purposeful suicide. > > It's not failing, it's working exactly according to plan. Obama knows what he’s doing. Stop apologizing and start fighting. > > Oh and one more thing…Conservatives aren’t “terrorists.” We are patriots and saviors. We represent the Constitution and the Founding Fathers. We are the heroes and good guys. Unless you get all this through your thick skulls, America is lost…forever. > >

COMMENT: Guess what.....the health Department is CANCELLING A LOT of existing healthcare policies because they don't match up with the Obama Care criteria! How about that! How many times did Barack say that "If you have health insurance and you want to keep it, you can"

Expect ObamaCare Change By DICK MORRIS Published on TheHill.com on November 5, 2013
I predict Democrats in the House and Senate will force President Obama to stop canceling insurance policies and restore those he has already caused insurance companies to cancel. The party simply cannot go into the next e******n with tens of millions of v**ers angry with its members for costing them their health insurance. After the president made "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan" the signature statement of his administration's policy, these cancellations carry too big a political price for his party to bear.
Which congressman can face his district having v**ed for legislation that's canceled the health insurance that protected 100,000 of his constituents? The pretense that the new policies on the exchanges will be better and cheaper than the policies v**ers already had will have been exposed as a lie by e******n time, and the congressman will face a very difficult road to ree******n.
Democrats will realize that they have no chance of taking the House or of keeping the Senate after they have canceled the healthcare plans of millions of Americans over their objections.
To roll back the cancellations and to prevent future terminations would require no statutory amendment of the healthcare reform legislation. For both individuals and employers, the Affordable Care Act provides that policies in force before February 2010 will be grandfathered in and accepted even if they fall short of the exalted requirements of Health and Human Services (HHS) regulators.
The cancellations stem not from anything in the law itself but from regulations adopted by the Health Department after its passage -- and never affirmed by Congress. These administrative fiats preclude grandfathering in any policies that have been changed, in any way, since February 2010. Any change in premiums, deductibles, coverage, eligibility and so forth triggers the termination of the policy unless it is fully in conformity with ObamaCare standards.
Democrats will argue that they never intended for the grandfathering clause to be waived so easily. They will argue that they inserted the provision precisely to permit the president to claim that "if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan." They will say that they were never consulted on the HHS regulation that effectively vitiates the grandfathering provision and will demand its repeal.
The president, with his personal credibility at stake, will have to give in and void the HHS regulation. He cannot afford to have his legacy become one of a big lie that impacts tens of millions of Americans.
What happens then?
Without the cascade of new Obama Care enrolments that would be generated by a stream of cancellations of current coverage, the enrollment statistics for Obama Care will be pathetic. They will be a national joke, much as the glitches in the enrollment process itself has turned out to be.
State statistics indicate that between 65 percent and 85 percent of the enrollments have been in traditional Medicaid (two-thirds under the new eligibility and one-third under the old standards). The number of Obama Care enrollments is miniscule.
People will soon learn that the fines for not having insurance are nominal -- $95 is enough for a nice dinner and a movie, not a significant enough threat to force a single person to buy a policy that might cost him the equivalent of a car ($300/month). Nor will the threatened escalation of the fine in the out years to $250 do much to frighten people and cause them to enroll and pay a multiple of that sum for insurance they neither need nor want.
Obviously, Congress will never raise the penalties and the IRS will do little to enforce them. The individual mandate will become a national farce.
And so ObamaCare will likely have all of three or four million participants -- if that! It will be dwarfed by the 100 million on Medicaid or the 170 million with individual- or employer-based insurance.
That level of participation will never justify the administrative superstructure that has been created to run it. ObamaCare will fade into oblivion as a token program, the penalty for giving a party that nobody attended.COMMENT: Thank goodness something may bring the ObamaCare juggernaut to a timely end although the obvious seems to be that if the leader is incompetent, his underlings will be even MORE incompetent. If three of the treatise above explain the INTENT of the Healthcare Act then we can only hope that the last one is the cure. Very t***hfully, when Obama came out with the thing I thought long and hard about why? During a severe recession/depression, how could this man and the Congress commit to spending trillions and trillions of f**e dollars on a pipe dream like this? Every one of the above comments by different people seem to me to be a much better explanation as to the aims of this legislation than the party line.

Finally, Matt Patterson and Newsweek speak out about Obama. This is timely and tough. As many of you know, Newsweek has a reputation for being extremely liberal. The fact that their editor saw fit to print the following article about Obama and the one that appears in the latest Newsweek, makes this a truly amazing event, and a news story in and of itself. At last, the t***h about our President and his agenda are starting to trickle through the protective wall built around him by the liberal media....

I Too Have Become Disillusioned

By Matt Patterson (Newsweek Columnist – Opinion Writer)

Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 e******n of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, the result of a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful military, execute the world's most consequential job?

Imagine a future historian examining Obama's pre-p**********l life: ushered into and through the Ivy League, despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a "community organizer;" a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, less often did he v**e "present"); and finally an unaccomplished single term in the United States Senate, the entirety of which was dev**ed to his p**********l ambitions.

He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as a legislator. And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama's "spiritual mentor;" a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama's colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?

Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal: To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken h**er of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers, would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberal Dom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were 'a bit' extreme, he was given a pass. Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass - held to a lower standard because of the color of his skin.

Podhoretz continues: And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also so articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) "non-threatening," all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of r****m to rest?

Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon - affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves.

Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that w****s can pat themselves on the back. Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools for which they are not qualified, yet take no responsibility for the inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow. Liberals don't care if these minority students fail; liberals aren't around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self-esteem resulting from the r****t policy that is affirmative action. Yes, r****t. Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the color of his skin - that's affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that isn't r****m, then nothing is.

And that is what America did to Obama. True, Obama himself was never troubled by his lack of achievements, but why would he be? As many have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois ; he was told he was good enough to be president despite no record at all in the Senate. All his life, every step of the way, Obama was told he was good enough for the next step, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary.

What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display every time Obama speaks? In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama's oratory sk**ls, intellect, and cool character. Those people – conservatives included - ought now to be deeply embarrassed.

The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that's when he has his Teleprompters in front of him; when the prompter is absent he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever issued from his mouth - it's all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that has failed over and over again for 100 years. (An example is his 2012 campaign speeches which are almost word for word his 2008 speeches)

And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inherited this mess. Remember, he wanted the job, campaigned for the task. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerless-ness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. (The other day he actually came out and said no one could have done anything to get our economy and country back on track). But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?

In short: our president is a small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise with such an impostor in the Oval Office.

COMMENT: So basically it appears as though Barack has beefed up the Labor Unions, which ALWAYS instruct their members to v**e Democrat, AND add to that large number of v**es, those of us who have "been on the dole", collecting unemployment insurance since forever, food stamp debit cards, free housing and on and on so we will v**e Democrat too! Then we find the rich white folk who feed their egos through v****g Democrat and drooling over the wonders of "equal opportunity" so they can sleep the sleep of a true good guy, after blessing the most R****T legislation EVER! I saw an example myself when I was working as a Nuclear Plant Startup Engineer with Westinghouse Nuclear Division. Our group of Startup engineers almost to the man, had cut our teeth in the field riding Nuclear submarines for between ten and twenty years such that our t***sition to become startup engineers in civilian nuclear plants consisted in finding where the plant was and going to work! We were introduced one fine day to a young black man who had graduated a few days before from some college, sporting a B.S. degree in nuclear physics. The rumor was that he started out, with no field experience whatsoever, at a higher salary then ANY of us was making! I was especially unimpressed because I had just finished putting up with Nuclear Physics degreed potential nuclear engineering officers at The S1C Nuclear Prototype training facility in Windsor Locks Connecticut, trying to teach these people that the physics was already in the bag and that they needed to learn about valves, steam generators, turbines, etc. The forgoing was not fair to us but MORE unfair to the, (at that time "token") since someone with no experience in that field, had no chance, mainly because his co-workers were pissed!

Guess who the Realtor is who will be selling, (and collecting commissions on), some of the most expensive real estate in this country? The Fed. is selling off post offices and the land they are on, in many, many cities, in fact on some of the most prime land in the country. Oh, it's Nancy Pelosi's hubby, from Californica rather than a local realtor in each city! That doesn't smell bad at all huh!

Hi Guys & Gals. In my opinion, (I know, I know), the only thing in the Tea Party that makes sense is a plank, a nice big 2 x 8 to maybe use as a subfloor piece! Even a burro should know that NO ONE can simply BALANCE THE BUDGET at this point in time. The aim should be at reducing spending, outlawing pork barrel add-ons, lobbying AND, accepting bribes from lobbies, (you saw it here!). Obama's aim with the AFFORDABLE, which it won't be very soon, Health Care Act is eventually to make ALL citizens dependent upon big government. The more HE gives away, the more v**es the Demos will get. Get ALL health Care workers enrolled as members of Unions, get all of the new I.R.S. workers enrolled as members of unions. oh, yeah, plus get everybody enrolled as members of unions, and the union fat cats will make sure that EVERYONE on their rolls v**es for the Demos. The Tea Party should go back in the hole that they came out of and at least give the Republican party some kind of a chance to amass a united front, and if the Republicans don't figure out a way to give away MORE than the Demos, at least enough to win control of the House and the Senate, soon we will be on the verge of a one-party system. Let me see, what do we call that, ah yes, a dictatorship!

Then again, why should Nancy Pelosi's hubby handle the sales of all the Post Office lands that are being sold, rather than a realtor in each geographical area? We're talking billions folks!

There are a couple of major reasons why, while sporting a whopping 9% approval rate, 94% of the ENCOMBANTS were re-elected!
1.- Once an e*****rate figures out that they can make a decent living simply by v****g, that is what they will do!
ex. Ancient Rome
ex. U.S.A.
2.- Our country consists of some 300 million people. Probably 80% of v****g age (and citizens). Of this 80% there exists somewhere between 1 and 2%, who actually do their home work and try to find out what their representatives are doing, and whether those representatives deserve the v**e. WE, in this forum are concerned citizens, intelligent, and do we find it easy to sift through the babel? Imagine someone who could care less as long as he gets his check.

You guys are right, you CERTAINLY can't believe ANYTHING that a politician says, because they are ALL interested in being re-elected, reaping the benies and NOTHING more! It is also very evident that the Reps. and the Dems. v**e the way their party bosses say they must v**e, except where the representative knows that his constituents will dispose of him in the next e******n. In this case a deal is made such that the person can make a v**e in opposition because he has already promised his v**e to something else down the line! Not rocket science but totally despicable.

Of course, as I predicted, he has been a lame duck since the middle of his first term because he thinks that he is really, really, smart and h**es it if anyone asks him to compromise which, as we all should know, is the basic principle of a Republic, (notice, Republic, not a Democracy) Too much of the latter has gotten us to where we are, a dead end, goodbye America!

Nothing could be further from the t***h, he is a fraud and a narcissist and his true aim is to beef up the U.N. and then be elected as the leader of same and then lead the world! You saw it here! :twisted: