Ranger7374 wrote:
Let me begin with some words from Alexander Hamilton:
"There will be no jury to stand between the judges who are to pronounce the sentence of the law, and the party who is to receive or suffer it. The awful discretion which a court of impeachments must necessarily have, to doom to honor or to infamy the most confidential and the most distinguished characters of the community, forbids the commitment of the trust to a small number of persons."- Alexander Hamilton
"Who would be willing to stake his life and his estate upon the verdict of a jury acting under the auspices of judges who had predetermined his guilt?" -Alexander Hamilton
"It ought not to be forgotten that the demon of faction will, at certain seasons, extend his sceptre over all numerous bodies of men." -Alexander Hamilton
"But though one or the other of the substitutes which have been examined, or some other that might be devised, should be thought preferable to the plan in this respect, reported by the convention, it will not follow that the Constitution ought for this reason to be rejected. If mankind were to resolve to agree in no institution of government, until every part of it had been adjusted to the most exact standard of perfection, society would soon become a general scene of anarchy, and the world a desert. Where is the standard of perfection to be found? Who will undertake to unite the discordant opinions of a whole community, in the same judgment of it; and to prevail upon one conceited projector to renounce his INFALLIBLE criterion for the FALLIBLE criterion of his more CONCEITED NEIGHBOR?" -Alexander Hamilton.
These quotes were taken from Federalist Papers #65.
Basically the impeachment and recall from office rule was injected into the Constitution to be used for criminal purposes. It is a check on our elected officials to prevent "Treason, Bribery, High Crimes and Misdemeanors". Madison and Hamilton agree that an elected official must be impeached and removed through a full responsibility of Congress and the Supreme Court in impeachment concerning the head of the Executive Department, the President. All representatives involved in an impeachment, or impeachment inquiry have to be placed on record.
There have been investigations. Some of these investigations have been debunked. Some have not. From the time before Donald Trump was Elected until now, the Democrats and Trump's enemies have been trying to impeach Donald Trump. There are news broadcasts of allegations against Donald Trump. However none of these allegations have entered into a court of law. How can Donald Trump exercise his Constitutional granted powers and protections?
This push for impeachment is being decided by one faction of the American community, that community is called the 'far left', the liberals, or the Democrats. As history has shown in the past few years, they will not quit. This is their choice. However, We, the people and citizens of these United States, are watching this soap opera play out. Before you decide whether or not Trump is guilty or innocent remember that the president is still an American Citizen.
Now being an American Citizen first, he enjoys the protections of the Constitution in all cases. Which means he has the following rights:
First amendment-
Freedom of speech
Freedom of the press
Freedom of religion
Freedom of assembly
Right to petition the government
Second amendment:
Right to bear arms
Third amendment:
Protection against housing soldiers in civilian homes
Fourth amendment:
Protection against unreasonable search and seizure
Protection against the issuing of warrants without probable cause
Fifth amendment:
Protection against trial without indictment, double jeopardy, self-incrimination, property seizure
Sixth amendment:
Right to a speedy trial
Right to be informed of charges
Right to be confronted by witnesses
Right to call witnesses
Right to a legal counsel
Seventh amendment
Right to trial by jury
Eighth amendment:
Protection against- excessive bail, excessive fines, cruel and unusual punishment
Ninth amendment:
Rights granted in the Constitution shall not infringe on other rights.
Tenth amendment:
Powers not granted to the Federal Government in the Constitution belong to the states or the people.
Being president of the United States, he also has powers invested into him from Article II of the Constitution.
Now, to open this discussion remember what is written here in. Let's judge as Americans based upon the guidelines stated above: Should Trump be impeached? And more importantly, is the House of Representatives, representing us, the American Public? Are they legally and faithfully carrying out thier duties as they are bound by the Constitution to do? Is Trump? Let the games begin.....
Let me begin with some words from Alexander Hamilt... (
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so what you are saying is that the impeachments this country has had were unconstitutional ?