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Sep 23, 2014 11:16:50   #
greyfox wrote:
Congress was against him UNTIL he listened to reason and realized he could not go it alone----unlike this fool in office today!!


Congress back then was actually concerned with the country, so they worked with a dem president who they did not oppose from the day he was sworn in. This congress and repub senators vowed to oppose Obama no matter what. If he embraced something, they opposed it. Like the mandate for insurance. Republicans had proposed it for years and to the very day Obama wanted it for healthcare reform, the republicans decided it was unAmerican and virtually a sin. Inn fact, virtually every single thing this president has done which had been common practice of past presidents, has now become anathema and unconstitutional in the eyes of the opposing republicans. Do I need to put up a list of bills opposed by congress simply because Obama proposed it. They have opposed him to the exclusion of all else, even the betterment of America. Its common knowledge to all but those too blind to admit it. Its why congress has single digit approval numbers.
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Sep 23, 2014 10:03:45   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Wasnt the Inmann commision statement made in 1990?


By the way, we know of an alleged order to "stand down" from some guy known as "Bob", I think it was, alleged by some dudes who have waited until now to use the publicity to promote a book about it where they allege the "stand down" order from "Bob". This is even worse than politicizing the attack and the deaths; they are going to profit from it. And Fox is just lapping it up as are the ultraconservative anti-Obamites.

And actually, the Inmann report was from all the way back dto the 1980's. If that's taken to be the authority, then lets take these attacks in chronological order and get the Sec of States from the Bush regime to answer for their crimes first. And I'll bet not a single democrat will flinch about it nor will they profit by it.
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Sep 23, 2014 09:02:19   #
RETW wrote:
It is for certain, something went wrong. Four good men lost there life.

You say there have been many hearings.
Your right of course, so why is it no one has come up with the reason it went wrong? Why is it no one has been found to be responsible for what happened?
Is it your answer, the bad guys?

Who was supposed to keep that Embassy safe? Who’s job was it to make sure our Embassy Had sufficient protection?

Who gave the order to stand down when some of our troops wanted to go to the aid of the Embassy? Because we now all know, there was an order to stand down.

If all the questions have been answered, then way hasn’t some one been found to be the blame for this disaster?


Who ignored the suggestions of the Innman Commission, that sets clear goals on how to, and what to do, to protect our Embassy’s ?

The same Commission that flatly states. It is the direct responsibility of the Secretary Of State that has the full and
complete responsibility to protect and defend our Embassy’s around the world.

That would be your girl Clinton.



Have any of these questions been answered? (( NOPE ))

And than there is you. Talking points in hand, following along with the sheep.

So tell me. If you believe all has been answered, who was responsible for this
Disaster?

RETW 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
It is for certain, something went wrong. Four good... (show quote)


Wasnt the Inmann commision statement made in 1990?
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Sep 23, 2014 09:01:40   #
RETW wrote:
It is for certain, something went wrong. Four good men lost there life.

You say there have been many hearings.
Your right of course, so why is it no one has come up with the reason it went wrong? Why is it no one has been found to be responsible for what happened?
Is it your answer, the bad guys?

Who was supposed to keep that Embassy safe? Who’s job was it to make sure our Embassy Had sufficient protection?

Who gave the order to stand down when some of our troops wanted to go to the aid of the Embassy? Because we now all know, there was an order to stand down.

If all the questions have been answered, then way hasn’t some one been found to be the blame for this disaster?


Who ignored the suggestions of the Innman Commission, that sets clear goals on how to, and what to do, to protect our Embassy’s ?

The same Commission that flatly states. It is the direct responsibility of the Secretary Of State that has the full and
complete responsibility to protect and defend our Embassy’s around the world.

That would be your girl Clinton.



Have any of these questions been answered? (( NOPE ))

And than there is you. Talking points in hand, following along with the sheep.

So tell me. If you believe all has been answered, who was responsible for this
Disaster?

RETW 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
It is for certain, something went wrong. Four good... (show quote)


Wasnt the Inmann commision statement made in 1990?
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Sep 22, 2014 23:40:22   #
Docadhoc wrote:
Good information, thanks.

It is interesting that you consider NASA to be your credible source.

Would this be the same NASA that Obama has crippled? I wonder how far they would go to please him considering. ....

Now about "fringe scientists". There were more than 1,000 geoscientists canvassed by Gore regarding g****l w*****g-c*****e c****e, whichever is your preferred buzz word. Slightly more than 70 said anything that could even remotely agree with him and even then they used the word "could". 70+ out of 1,000+. So much for "fringe".

As for CO2 emission......as stated, 95% comes from ocean water vapor.

Allow me a question. According to NASA CO2 has risen 25%. They show dry ground. Arid cracked parched ground. Nothing growing.
Maybe you aren't aware but plants eat CO2 and give off O2. It woukd seem to me that more CO2
would mean more planrs, less dry arid ground, and more O2.
NASA is by far one of the most credible sources of climate info in the world. Thats a fact Jack.

As to your point about CO2, the ocean is a great sink for CO2 but inc in temp drives it out. Gases dissolve better in cold fluids and less in warm. Plants do "eat" CO2, so to speak, to build their tissues and also make glucuse and other carbs in what is called the Calvin cycle. It increases biomass on the surface but any gain is negligable compared to atmospheric increases. The CO2 cyvles, if you will, are very compleX. You can dismiss the NASA data if you wish, but you join the fringe. Its simply the way it is. You might as well be arguing the "science of creation".

What do you think?
Good information, thanks. br br It is interesting... (show quote)
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Sep 22, 2014 20:27:24   #
JFlorio wrote:
Are you saying Obama never said this?


Yes. Obama never said that. Rush dimburger (Limbaugh) implied it. Fox news prob later twisted it. But Obama did not say it.
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Sep 22, 2014 18:56:15   #
JFlorio wrote:
NASA is also run by appointees who must tow the present party line for funding. Remember the number one goal for NASA under this administration is Muslim outreach.


And thus your true self shines thru. LOLOLOLOL!!!!! Been reading the Onion again?
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Sep 22, 2014 18:43:06   #
Tyster wrote:
Correction... he signed a balanced budget... one that originated in the Republican controlled House.


Partially true, but still balanced with the help of a congress not standing opposed to every single thing he ever did or wanted to do. And why? Well . . .
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Sep 22, 2014 18:29:55   #
Docadhoc wrote:
The problem here is that you cannot say the climate has never changed at this fast a rate. I don't think you get that.

You can say that the climate has not changed at this fast a rate during the past 134 years. That would be a fair statement because we have only been keeping track for that long. Fair, but wrong.

In reality, the global temperature rise has actually slowed during the past 25 years. It's a matter of record.

134 years of record keeping just isn't close to enough time of record keeping and analysis to predict weather on a global scale. Several thousands of years perhaps. 134, no. We just do not have enough raw data and in fact there are now data coming in that indicates we may be approaching a mini ice age which totally destroys the g****l w*****g theory.

The fact is that the weather is powerfully controlled by how much energy the earth's surface is being exposed to.

If you need to fret about a real potential catyclism look into the results of a super volcanoes eruption involving the Yellowstone cauldera.
The problem here is that you cannot say the climat... (show quote)


Here's a link to NASA. These are the guys who put a man on the moon and stimulated the development of virtually every technology we have developed in the past forty years. Try to read the whole thing, especially the part about compelling evidence for the "rapid" warming of the earth. Yes, you might find a fringe of scientists who would dispute this or cite other articles of lesser scientific strength, but that would be a fringe and also political conservatives who think its a political issue. http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
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Sep 22, 2014 18:21:09   #
Tyster wrote:
No, but none of those past administrations tried to cover up what happened with a bogus story of an inflammatory video either. There was no confusion as to where the POTUS was during those times of crisis either.


That is not true. And I would point out that the greatest cover up is the one never suspected. Why after the first three or four attacks on Americans didn't THEY beef up security? Not covering up because never questioned. Only three hearings related to 50+ deaths. The magnitude of the difference between those 50+ and B******i is staggering, to say the least. And I could tell you why Clinton wasn't criticized more but then I be being .... well, anyway. I'm pretty sure he was under the gun. He DID get impeached did he not? And one thing about Clinton, he balanced the budget.
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Sep 22, 2014 17:46:53   #
faithistheword wrote:
OH. MY. GOD!!
You've got it exactly reverse! democrats circle the wagons around one of theirs, when a scandal breaks, but demand the heads of Republicans for minor infractions! It happens every time barackhussein needs a distraction, too! Hillary COULDN'T win if she runs, so she'd better retire to the farm, where the two of them can get on each other's nerves instead of normal people! There's not ONE democrat that is worthy of the Oval Office---NOT ONE!!


We've been wanting Republicans to account for the 50+ deaths in embassies prior to Obama coming into office. Are those minor infractions?
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Sep 22, 2014 17:25:07   #
Retired669 wrote:
Good question that I have asked a number of times. When you start pissing people off by trying to force them to another goddamn waste of time hearing your not likely to get any cooperation from them. There isn't a question about B******i that has been answered a number of times. Some i***ts refuse to listen unless you tell them what they want to hear. I believe everyone that is subpoenaed should ignore it and send them a F**k you note....:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


I certainly couldn't blame them if they did.
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Sep 22, 2014 16:50:53   #
Tyster wrote:
Hottest ever? So weather only started in 1880? Are you really that intellectually dishonest?

So, from your comment I deduce that the claims from 40 years ago were based on inexact temperature calculations, but now they are totally accurate. If the temperature determinations from 40 years ago were flawed, what could we say about the reliability of figures from 134 yrs. ago?

My point was that since recorded temperature variations have only been recorded for 134 years, we really don't know what a true average temperature is... only the average of the 134 years. The 20th Century could have been a "cold" period... and the current warming is only bringing the long term numbers back to the true average. Maybe they are higher - but we don't know that from the limited accumulation of data that we have available.
Hottest ever? So weather only started in 1880? A... (show quote)

Dude, I won't lecture you on the other methods used to determine temps from before we were measuring them. Its a bit more complex than that. As to being intellectually dishonest, did you not read what I said "ever since we were recording temps"? Read it again, one word at a time and try to remember that consecutive sentences often are linked thru meaning and context.
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Sep 22, 2014 16:46:02   #
I've seen Hillary's comment "At this point, what difference does it make" taken out of context so much, like Obamas "you didn't build that" comment. It cost the republicans the e******n. Do you know what she meant by it? And yes, its pretty clear the difference in this hearing and the last one. Gowdy will get to lecture Clinton adn don't you know she'll be ready for it? But hey, it should be entertaining.
oldroy wrote:
You do know that Trey will get to use his tough questions on Hillary Clinton, sooner or later, don't you? Yep, he has the power of subpoena and she can't avoid that when it comes up. She didn't appear on but one committee hearing, and that was with the Senate where the Dems determined what could be asked and about all she said there was, "At this point, what difference does it make". She tried to hide behind those words and got by with it but Gowdy won't allow crap like that.

You really don't realize the difference in this hearing and the ones that have taken place prior to it, do you?
You do know that Trey will get to use his tough qu... (show quote)
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Sep 22, 2014 15:30:23   #
The hottest summer since 1880 is a bit different than hotter than the 20th century average. Hottest ever. That is, hottest ever. Ever since we've been recording it. And the 70's. Quite a bit better science than 40yrs ago, don't ya think?
Tyster wrote:
A startling statistic.. the sky must be falling! Oh my gosh... temperatures (globally) were slightly higher than the 20th Century average.

One MAJOR problem. During the 70's the g****l w*****g crowd was running around like scared chickens telling us we were approaching a new ice age... based on recurrent low temperatures. Soooooo... maybe this year's "warmth" is bringing us back to the long term average (only measuring from 1880 is relatively short term)!
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