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Sep 21, 2014 10:14:37   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
http://survivaljoe.net/blog/al-gore-embarrassed-by-mother-nature-polar-ice-caps-grow-by-43-percent/?utm_source=140921SJ&utm_campaign=140921SJ

I bet the Nobel Prize committee are feeling embarrassed nowadays. First for Obummer and now for Bore.

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Sep 21, 2014 10:16:48   #
bahmer
 
Elwood wrote:
http://survivaljoe.net/blog/al-gore-embarrassed-by-mother-nature-polar-ice-caps-grow-by-43-percent/?utm_source=140921SJ&utm_campaign=140921SJ

I bet the Nobel Prize committee are feeling embarrassed nowadays. First for Obummer and now for Bore.


What is that a fool and his folly?

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Sep 21, 2014 10:35:45   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
bahmer wrote:
What is that a fool and his folly?


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Sep 21, 2014 10:44:41   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Elwood wrote:
http://survivaljoe.net/blog/al-gore-embarrassed-by-mother-nature-polar-ice-caps-grow-by-43-percent/?utm_source=140921SJ&utm_campaign=140921SJ

I bet the Nobel Prize committee are feeling embarrassed nowadays. First for Obummer and now for Bore.


If only the size of polar ice caps were the only indicator of c*****e c****e - you'd be right. Unfortunately, that's only part of the picture. Renewed ice caps don't un acidify the oceans, regrow coral reefs, move the jet stream back to where it was, or move the gulf stream back to where it was. Perhaps, in 100 years or so, it will make a difference. In the mean time, further disruptions of w*****r p*****ns can be expected.

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Sep 21, 2014 11:17:52   #
Frodo Loc: The Shire
 
lpnmajor wrote:
If only the size of polar ice caps were the only indicator of c*****e c****e - you'd be right. Unfortunately, that's only part of the picture. Renewed ice caps don't un acidify the oceans, regrow coral reefs, move the jet stream back to where it was, or move the gulf stream back to where it was. Perhaps, in 100 years or so, it will make a difference. In the mean time, further disruptions of w*****r p*****ns can be expected.



Fair enough comment.... However, for me, the issue is NOT about C*****e c****e, this is as constant as anything in this world.....it is the egocentric attitude that mankind is chiefly responsible. Do we have SOME impact ? No doubt, but the degree is vastly overstated, as is the tendency for climate to ultimately find it's equilibrium.
How very narcissistic of the C*****e c****e people to drive home their bogus message. Ever heard of volcanic activity ? Sun Spot activity ? Jeez Louise..... people are so damnably stupid, and prone to gobble up any pseudo science the hucksters purvey.....

This entire movement of concern with regards to ecology and climate is driven by an anti-capitalist agenda......period. Sure, there are some innocents sucked in to the mix, but the drivers behind this ballyhoo are those who seek to diminish economic output by "western" countries.
Where, by the way, is the outrage and demonstrations against Red China, Russia, and other countries who simply suppress the messaging in their own confines ?

There is so much documentation of bogus science leading to statistics that "prove" the C*****e c****e argument.....it is laughable to the trained scientific mind. Unfortunately, funding coupled with a completely ignorant general public leads to mass hysteria and over regulation......

A sham....and for once, I am glad the "powers that be" (economic drivers) will not lay down and take this crap. Yes, they pay lip service to Govt enforced and induced regulations, often serving only to raise the costs of production which are passed along, but in the long run.....the will to survive overcomes regulatory interference.





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Sep 21, 2014 11:25:05   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Who moved the glaciers out of Tennessee? Who cares? We live ,we die and in between the weather changes. Always has and always will.
lpnmajor wrote:
If only the size of polar ice caps were the only indicator of c*****e c****e - you'd be right. Unfortunately, that's only part of the picture. Renewed ice caps don't un acidify the oceans, regrow coral reefs, move the jet stream back to where it was, or move the gulf stream back to where it was. Perhaps, in 100 years or so, it will make a difference. In the mean time, further disruptions of w*****r p*****ns can be expected.

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Sep 21, 2014 11:28:31   #
Frodo Loc: The Shire
 
JFlorio wrote:
Who moved the glaciers out of Tennessee? Who cares? We live ,we die and in between the weather changes. Always has and always will.


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Sep 21, 2014 11:37:55   #
Brian Devon
 
Elwood wrote:
http://survivaljoe.net/blog/al-gore-embarrassed-by-mother-nature-polar-ice-caps-grow-by-43-percent/?utm_source=140921SJ&utm_campaign=140921SJ

I bet the Nobel Prize committee are feeling embarrassed nowadays. First for Obummer and now for Bore.







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Not so fast Elwood.


From: Los Angeles Times, Sept. 19,2014


If the summer of 2014 felt unusually warm to you, you were right--at least on a global level.

From June through August of 2014, the average temperature of our planet was 62.78 degrees Fahrenheit--1.28 degrees higher than the 20th century average, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Adminstration.

That makes it the warmest summer since record keeping began in 1880.

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Sep 21, 2014 11:49:29   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Once again. So what? If you think throwing trillions of dollars at the so-called problem will lower the temperature 1.28 degrees than you are as delusional as Al Gore.
Brian Devon wrote:
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Not so fast Elwood.


From: Los Angeles Times, Sept. 19,2014


If the summer of 2014 felt unusually warm to you, you were right--at least on a global level.

From June through August of 2014, the average temperature of our planet was 62.78 degrees Fahrenheit--1.28 degrees higher than the 20th century average, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Adminstration.

That makes it the warmest summer since record keeping began in 1880.

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Sep 21, 2014 12:21:31   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
lpnmajor wrote:
If only the size of polar ice caps were the only indicator of c*****e c****e - you'd be right. Unfortunately, that's only part of the picture. Renewed ice caps don't un acidify the oceans, regrow coral reefs, move the jet stream back to where it was, or move the gulf stream back to where it was. Perhaps, in 100 years or so, it will make a difference. In the mean time, further disruptions of w*****r p*****ns can be expected.


Weather statistics have only been kept and compiled for the flicker of an eyelid compared to the age of this planet.

Weather is dynamic. It is never in perfect balance any more than your body's chemistry. Always oscillating, ever changing. Cooler climates become warmer, warm climates cool. Ocean currents moving, chemistry and ph never static.

If we look at change over a short period, say 200--300 years we see spikes and valleys. If we look at a longer time scale, say 100,000--300,000 years (according to geological record) we see bumps and dips. If we use an even longer scale, say 100,000,000--300,000,000 years, we see an even flatter line. C*****e c****e is reletive and how it is viewed is totally related to the time frame.

The majority of world scientists have been consistantly saying that the short term change in w*****r p*****ns is quute normal and will continue.

Gore made his fortune by taking a myopic look at weather and paying some selected scientists to see it his way. There have been recent articles printed showing that the hole in the ozone layer is closing.

It is one thing to be duped for a time by Gore and his cronies. With all of the data now being published that refutes Gore's hypothesis, it is quite a different matter to continue beating a dead horse.

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Sep 21, 2014 12:50:20   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
Frodo wrote:

Fair enough comment.... However, for me, the issue is NOT about C*****e c****e, this is as constant as anything in this world.....it is the egocentric attitude that mankind is chiefly responsible. Do we have SOME impact ? No doubt, but the degree is vastly overstated, as is the tendency for climate to ultimately find it's equilibrium.
How very narcissistic of the C*****e c****e people to drive home their bogus message. Ever heard of volcanic activity ? Sun Spot activity ? Jeez Louise..... people are so damnably stupid, and prone to gobble up any pseudo science the hucksters purvey.....

This entire movement of concern with regards to ecology and climate is driven by an anti-capitalist agenda......period. Sure, there are some innocents sucked in to the mix, but the drivers behind this ballyhoo are those who seek to diminish economic output by "western" countries.
Where, by the way, is the outrage and demonstrations against Red China, Russia, and other countries who simply suppress the messaging in their own confines ?

There is so much documentation of bogus science leading to statistics that "prove" the C*****e c****e argument.....it is laughable to the trained scientific mind. Unfortunately, funding coupled with a completely ignorant general public leads to mass hysteria and over regulation......

A sham....and for once, I am glad the "powers that be" (economic drivers) will not lay down and take this crap. Yes, they pay lip service to Govt enforced and induced regulations, often serving only to raise the costs of production which are passed along, but in the long run.....the will to survive overcomes regulatory interference.




b color=green br Fair enough comment.... Howeve... (show quote)


Well stated. :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 21, 2014 13:06:10   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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Not so fast Elwood.


From: Los Angeles Times, Sept. 19,2014


If the summer of 2014 felt unusually warm to you, you were right--at least on a global level.

From June through August of 2014, the average temperature of our planet was 62.78 degrees Fahrenheit--1.28 degrees higher than the 20th century average, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Adminstration.

That makes it the warmest summer since record keeping began in 1880.


What has that to do with polar ice? I wouldn't believe anything printed in that liberal rag. Their days of objective journalism are long gone. :hunf:

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Sep 21, 2014 13:06:48   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Weather statistics have only been kept and compiled for the flicker of an eyelid compared to the age of this planet.

Weather is dynamic. It is never in perfect balance any more than your body's chemistry. Always oscillating, ever changing. Cooler climates become warmer, warm climates cool. Ocean currents moving, chemistry and ph never static.

If we look at change over a short period, say 200--300 years we see spikes and valleys. If we look at a longer time scale, say 100,000--300,000 years (according to geological record) we see bumps and dips. If we use an even longer scale, say 100,000,000--300,000,000 years, we see an even flatter line. C*****e c****e is reletive and how it is viewed is totally related to the time frame.

The majority of world scientists have been consistantly saying that the short term change in w*****r p*****ns is quute normal and will continue.

Gore made his fortune by taking a myopic look at weather and paying some selected scientists to see it his way. There have been recent articles printed showing that the hole in the ozone layer is closing.

It is one thing to be duped for a time by Gore and his cronies. With all of the data now being published that refutes Gore's hypothesis, it is quite a different matter to continue beating a dead horse.
Weather statistics have only been kept and compile... (show quote)


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Sep 21, 2014 13:08:38   #
Byran
 
man made c*****e c****e is a lie perpetrated by the ultra elite, their goal is to put an end to capitalism and usher in a new world order controlled by the oligarchs where there will be two class of people the servants and the Masters. the belief that the Earth's current c*****e c****es can be attributed to man's activities based on less than a hundred and fifty years of documentation is complete idiocracy. recurrent accepted estimate of the earth age is four and a half billion years even if Earth's c*****e c****ed only once every million years that is 4500 changes to the climate but there are so many variables they can't be counted the ocean conveyors continental drift you rise of mountain ranges volcanic activity just to name a few. if we are to follow the environmentalist's line of reasoning then I guess the last ice age was the result of man's lack of activity on a global scale

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Sep 21, 2014 13:18:03   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
Byran wrote:
man made c*****e c****e is a lie perpetrated by the ultra elite, their goal is to put an end to capitalism and usher in a new world order controlled by the oligarchs where there will be two class of people the servants and the Masters. the belief that the Earth's current c*****e c****es can be attributed to man's activities based on less than a hundred and fifty years of documentation is complete idiocracy. recurrent accepted estimate of the earth age is four and a half billion years even if Earth's c*****e c****ed only once every million years that is 4500 changes to the climate but there are so many variables they can't be counted the ocean conveyors continental drift you rise of mountain ranges volcanic activity just to name a few. if we are to follow the environmentalist's line of reasoning then I guess the last ice age was the result of man's lack of activity on a global scale
man made c*****e c****e is a lie perpetrated by th... (show quote)


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