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Moderate Islam Would Still be Extreme Christianity

L8erToots wrote:

The only "moderate" Muslim, IMO, is a non-practicing Muslim or a Muslim that doesn't attend a mosque. Why? Consider this:
Church going Christians go to church once a week and usually mostly pray at church. Those Christians try and be the best Christians they can be by following the teachings of Jesus Christ, even though they only go to church ONCE a week (maybe twice, for bible study).
I know a LOT of Jewish people and hardly ANY of them go to temple or pray to God, yet most of them celebrate the Jewish holidays and identify strongly as a Jew and with Israel.
Muslims, even moderate Muslims, go to Mosques how often? How many times daily are they required to pray, every day? EVEN IF they want to be "peaceful, moderate" Muslims, if the imam in that Mosque is a radical Muslim (which is what they, the radical Islamists, have been doing, unbeknownst to moderate Muslims, for years), the moderates can't help but become radicalized over time. We see it happen in religious cults all the time and moderate Muslims are human beings and vulnerable to "g***ming" and soft radicalization just like anyone else. If you read practicing Muslims comments on FB between friends, every single comment, whether it's a comment on a baby picture, a picture of scenery or a promotion at work, Allah is mentioned in every comment,every single time. Their world revolves around Allah because their day revolves around praying to Allah several times a day.
Why did Al-Qaeda and the Taliban renounce ISIS? Because they showed the true, brutal t***h of Islam TOO SOON and the brutality of it 1) turned some Muslims away, 2) shocked the world with the "normal" brutality of Sharia Law rather than let the world to become desensitized slowly over time and 3) to continue to make an impact and force people to accept Islam, the next act of brutality has to become worse than the last example...which only scares more moderate Muslims away and alerts the world of the t***h about Islam. In other words, ISIS, in their impatience for establishing an Islamic State, has gone outside of the "100 year plan" to quietly use the different methods of jihad (infiltration through education, religion and government) to spread Islam and radicalize Muslims slowly to become a worldwide army that will all join together and fight for Allah when commanded. To use an analogy, think of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda as pedafiles and ISIS as a violent child rapist...one g***ms their victims, the other just attacks.
Anyway, that's my opinion after reading many blogs and articles published by Islamic clerics and those in the upper levels of Islam (and the "handbook", "The Management of Savagry").

The only "moderate" Muslim, IMO, is a no... (show quote)

It seems to me that praying to one's God at least once per day isn't very extreme. It's the Sharia law parts and denial of women's rights that make moderate Muslims more extreme than most evangelical Christians.

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Omar and Tlaib's Shocking Display of Israeliphobia

Trump is so often wrong that it's easy for Democrats and the progressive MSM to assume he's always wrong. In this case, however, the progressive mainstream media, in its eagerness to be anti-Trump, has done so at the defense of two US Representatives whose itinerary just displayed a shocking amount of Israeliphobia! Omar and Talib's itinerary shows no intent to meet with any Israeli official. The Israeli Knesset has progressive, socialist, c*******t, anti-z*****t, and even arab representatives now. Yet, their itinerary shows no intent to even meet with them. Furthermore, their itinerary calls Israel Palestine. Bernie Sanders assumes this is Israeli anti-conservativism. Their intents and actions prove much worse!

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License to K**l

payne1000 wrote:

Look at the evidence: br b 9/11 evidence against ... (show quote)

I agree that both the American and Isreali government suspectedor even knew a terrorist attack was imminent from Al Queda. They had already made one attempt to try to bring the towers down before. The only question was how much did they know and when. I also agree that the US government, in order to calm fears, covered up several things, including the Pentagon attack which was done by a missile instead of a plane. There are, however, several problems with your theory. Larry Silverstein won the WTC bid by accident. The insurance he received was based on the face value of the towers instead of what he payed for them, which is common. When Silverstein told the Fire chief to "pull it" for WTC 7, he was referring to the water they were using to try to put out the fire. Water was already in scarce supply by that point. Water resources for firefighting were in desperate need in other areas of the city at the point where lives were still in danger and cutting water resources directed at an evacuated building was a very good idea. Furthermore, suggesting that he somehow knew that building would receive damage to the extent of starting a fire, even if he somehow had known the WTCs would be attacked that day by planes, could only have been possible if he had received that info from God. Zakheim was appointed as Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) from 2001 in George W. Bush's administration, and served in this capacity until April 2004. During his term as Comptroller, he was tasked to help track down the Pentagon's 2.3 trillion dollars' worth of unaccounted t***sactions. DoD financial experts, Zakheim said, at the time, were making good progress reconciling the department's "lost" expenditures, trimming them from a prior estimated total of $2.3 trillion to $700 billion. Today, in 2019, the pentagon's unaccounted t***sactions now equal $21 trillion dollars. The 32 767s that Zakheim sent to be converted to refueling tankers are US Army Boeing KC-767s. All of those are accounted for.

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My fellow citizens

Stratman911 wrote:

Sounds like you're a friend of Bill W. I am too coming up on 14 yrs sober... I'm very much in reality it now... Thank you for caring

Congrats on your sobriety, Stratman! That's not an easy thing to do! I noticed you ignored my comments but, I hope you, at least, watched the videos I posted.

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How the Mostly Progressive Media Manipulates its Viewers

Kevyn wrote:

A brilliant work of scholarship referencing YouTube videos and propaganda from the extreme right wing propaganda site the Daily Caller. Put up and compare the accuracy of the Daily Caller against respected news sources such as the Washington Post and New York Times or broadcast news media for that matter. The Daily Caller is a steaming wagon load of excrement in comparison to any legitimate news source.

Oh, you assumed the Daily Caller was the only source I researched before showing BAMN's ties with NAMBLA. Hold on and I'll fix that for you but, first off, I intend to correct an exaggeration of yours. Breitbart is extreme. The Daily Caller is just conservative. Second, don't assume that just because a source is conservative or liberal for that matter, that what they are saying is untrue. That's partisan thoughtlessness and you should be better than that. ( https://www.influencewatch.org/organization/by-any-means-necessary-bamn/ ) ( https://theresurgent.com/2017/05/02/the-deep-ugly-ties-of-berkeley-a****a-group-to-p********a/ ) ( https://www.independentsentinel.com/figures-berkeley-a****a-group-bamn-deeply-wedded-notorious-p*******e-group/ ) ( https://capitalresearch.org/article/anti-marxists-on-the-march/ ) ( https://www.datalounge.com/thread/19962934-we-really-need-to-talk-about-intersectionality ) - That last link I put there specifically for you, Kevyn. It's left-wing, progressive, and pro-L**T, and it specifically calls out Eileen Scheff, a BAMN founder and BAMN's legal counsel for being pro-p********a. I can also show you two other founding BAMN members who are linked to NAMBLA. Now, if you want to debate p********a itself and whether people should be for it or against it, I'd be happy to debate you but, don't blow me off simply because you assume I haven't done my research, I'm Republican or I only read conservative news. I assure you, none of those are true. I haven't been on here in a while, Kevyn. You used to be good at debating but, you appear to have become lazy since then. I know, it's been hard since T***p w*n but, it's time to put your brain back to work! :P

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How the Mostly Progressive Media Manipulates its Viewers

zombinis3 wrote:

Response to Chameleon 12 qoute button didn't work ... (show quote)

You are exactly right. They dumb it down but, the more they dumb it down, the more inaccurate they get. Worse, you hear people repeating the dumbed down version as though that was what was actually said, and then they are shocked when they are told that isn't what was said at all. Not only that but, when the media intentionally distorts what was said as in "All mexicans are Rapists" and then, Trump wins the e******n, they're stuck with two difficult options - 1. Either admit they misheard or twisted the comment, (which strongly implies that the MSM, in this instance, was racially stereotyping mexicans by assuming that Trump's reference to i*****l i*******ts must refer to all mexicans) or 2. Double down on their bs and make the claim that half of America is r****t ( this option will be believed by die-hard partisans, naive trusters, and the kind of ignorant people who tend to be skeptical about mundane t***h but, then, believe in crazy off-the-wall fantasies like the earth being flat or hollow or man's trip to the moon was nothing more than a hollywood production ) - You, likely, know which option they went with.

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How the Mostly Progressive Media Manipulates its Viewers

PeterS wrote:

And RW media is any different how??? Fox was created for the specific reason of pandering to conservative beliefs. Breitbart has been busted as nothing but a RW propaganda machine. Yet you are going to sit there and point your crooked finger at mainstream media. That's a good one...

Fox is included with the Mainstream Media because, they are, and their statements should be questioned and researched every bit as much as CNN and MSNBC. You assume I am a Republican because, I titled this topic 'How the Mostly Progressive Mainstream Media Manipulates its Viewers'. If you had watched all of the movies, you would have seen how Fox News was involved in the Media Blackout and polling misinformation of Ron Paul in 2012. Later, I laid the blame for the beginning of d******e partisanship as a whole at the Republican Party's feet when they began to enforce party toe-lining under the leadership of then House Speaker Newt Gingrich whom I detest. Partisanship is poisoning this country, Peter! Today, people spout their party's beliefs without even considering opposing beliefs or seeking the kernel of t***h found in ideas their party disagrees with. They don't bother to think for themselves. They simply dismiss the opposing idea and brand opposing people with words like r****t, c****e, homophobe, effeminate, n**i, t*****r, etc. because, it's easier to do that than consider the remote possibility that one's own views may not be wholly right or their opponent wholly wrong. Any person who has never stepped far enough back from their own political party to see faults in their own party's ideas or see even a little goodness, principle, and virtue in an opposing party's ideas isn't thinking for themselves. Anyone who thinks 50% of the country is r****t or c****es simply because they v**ed for the other candidate isn't thinking for themselves. Anyone who watches the mainstream media of both sides and fails to question what they're being told by both sides isn't thinkinng for themselves. Worse, they are just a game piece and they're being played!

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My fellow citizens

Stratman911 wrote:

And Trump hasn't done that and more... I've done my fact checking... You called Clinton getting a blow job a major scandal, but Russia interfering with our e******ns is perfectly ok right

Clinton getting a blow job is not a major scandal President Clinton's power play over ML is! Watch this first, ok? You're, apparently, very ignorant of the #metoo movement and what it means for today's Democrat Party. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBaaFKfMNoI ) ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03PSOPpVd1A )

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My fellow citizens

Stratman911 wrote:

And Trump hasn't done that and more... I've done my fact checking... You called Clinton getting a blow job a major scandal, but Russia interfering with our e******ns is perfectly ok right

You do understand that I'm not a Republican right? Of course, Russia tried to interfere with the e******n. So did China, btw. None of that is Ok. I'm not entirely disagreeing with your argument. I'm saying there are errors in your argument. To say there were no major political scandals besides those under Republican Administrations is not only intentionally ignorant but, when it comes to Bill Clinton, it's sexist. The Democrat Party is supposed to have progressed past that and learned from its' mistakes. "White Washing" what happened isn't ok. If you need to, watch what Democrat Representatives and Senators now say about Bill Clinton and take a page from that.

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Ohio judge refuses to marry gay couple

no propaganda please wrote:

Oh but they have. Christians who do not endorse and celebrate homosexuality have lost their businesses ( florists and the brothers who had a rehab show on TV, for instance), been fired from their jobs (Kentucky clerk who would not validate marriage licenses for same sex partners)have been hassled and threated for donating to support the three thousand year old definition of marriage, one man and one woman (CEO of Chick fil a)

The worst kind of intolerance is the intolerance of ideas, especially opposing ideas!

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Obama Greeted with Confederate F**gs, Small City Mayor Calls Him Monkey Man

Ronald Hatt wrote:

THESE "KNOCK OUT NEGROES".......NEED TO ATTEND A KKK MEETING!

LET THEIR PRESENCE BE KNOWN......{PROBLEM IS, THEY ARE ALL HOPELESS COWARDS, & NEED EXTERMINATION.....KHH1 "FIRST!

MOST BIG CITY NEGROES, AREN'T CAPABLE OF ANY TYPE OF "BIG AZZ CONSPIRACY".....THEY CAN'T EVEN SPELL "BIG"!

You do understand that it's possible African Americans who play the knockout game assume they are attacking people like you. That's not much different than the horrific assumptions you're making yourself. Progressive A****a would do the same to you for what you just said. I would rather discuss your r****t assumptions with you, try to understand why you are r****t, and try to change some of your r****t assumptions.

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My fellow citizens

Stratman911 wrote:

It may surprise you to know that when I was first ... (show quote)

Every major political scandal? I'm not a republican and even I know this is demonstrably untrue! You're Michael Moorean aren't you! You need to fact-check the movies your friends sent you! How on earth did you forget Bill Clinton? If you are truly a progressive then, you know that what Bill Clinton did was not only a major political scandal but, might as well be included as part of the #metoo movement! Bill Clinton used his power to procur and intimidate sexual favors from a poor female subordinate of his named Monica Lewinsky. As if that wasn't bad enough, the liberal media of that period mostly blamed and s**t-shamed Monica Lewinsky for not refusing the most powerful man in America! But, you were v****g in 1979 so, I'd say you're still one of those old guys that blames her and protects your good old boy, huh?

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My fellow citizens

Stratman911 wrote:

My fellow citizens, the rise of this blusterous man bewilders the educated among us, conjoins opposing politicians, agonizes our international allies, threatens minorities, spits on the disabled, and touches the hearts of those who just don't know any better. Let us stop propounding how mad this all is, but instead do something.

Spits on the disabled huh? Let me show you why the Democrat party continues to hemorrhage v**ers.
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssNEJD3xC8A ) Don't you think it's time to stop believing things without question?

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Well Known Media Lie Falls Apart

This is somewhat i***tic. When it says well-regulated, the words m*****a are right after that. Here's the second amendment for you:

A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I can change too! Watch: A well m*****a, being necessary to security of state, the right people(Republicans Only) keeps and bear arms, shall infringe.

My gosh! The second amendment obviously says Republican must, not only, own and carry firearms but, raise a well m*****a to infringe upon everyone else for the security of the state!

I had no idea it said that but, once I dumbed it down like the new democrats do, I discovered all kinds of new non-existent rights!

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How the Mostly Progressive Media Manipulates its Viewers

Yet, the progressive mainstream media intentionally ignores this and pretends that A****a is just another left wing protest group. Why? Because the group also happens to be anti-Trump. Just like Kevin Spacey is anti-Trump. Just like Harvey Weinstein is anti-Trump. As long as you are anti-Trump, the progressive media will be happy to give you a voice and ignore or forgive everything else about you. CNN will even put a w***e s*********t on tv and give him a voice simply because, he's anti-Trump. Kudos to Occasio-Cortez for calling them out on that. The media is now raging about billionaire Democrat Jeffrey Epstein's 13 month jail sentence in 2007 but, where was their rage 2007? They were conveniently silent because of Epstein's philanthropically Democratic donations. Does this sound familiar to you?