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Nov 28, 2016 00:06:48   #
Chameleon12
 
Licensed to K**l
John C. Goodman

First there was Pablo Escobar, the once notorious head of the Medellin drug cartel in Colombia.

I have it on good authority from a high placed source that he was k**led by a member of the US Special Forces. The US government doesn’t admit to this, but it does acknowledge the role of US forces in locating Escobar and in destroying the Medellin cartel.

Where did they get the authority to do that? The Constitution gives the Congress the authority to declare war, but Congress has never declared war on Colombia. Come to think of it, neither has any US president.

I don’t doubt that Escobar deserved to die. He was a psychopathic k**ler himself and his drug trade destroyed many lives. But the destruction of the Medellin cartel had no effect of the price of cocaine in the United States. And even if it did, where is there any official document giving US presidents the right to go around the world k*****g people – even people who deserve to die?

Then there was Osama bin Laden. From what I can tell, the movie Zero Dark Thirty got the facts pretty much right. Seal Team Six had no intention of bringing him back alive. They brought a body bag with them and they intended to fill it.

Bin Laden was not armed when they found him. Yet he was not asked to surrender. He was not read his Miranda rights. There was no attempt whatsoever to take him prisoner. Our guys just went in and shot him. And then they shot him a couple of more times, just to make sure he was dead.

From what I can tell, this is not unusual. I don’t doubt for one moment that bin Laden deserved to die. Nor do I doubt the patriotism of the Special Forces. They risk their lives for you and me. They serve their country admirably.

But it’s time that we acknowledge who they are and what they do. They are licensed to k**l. And that’s what they do. When they shoot, they don’t wound people. They rarely take prisoners. As a general rule, they don’t leave any witnesses.

In “Seal Team Six: A Secret History of Quiet k*****g And Blurred Lines,” New York Times reporters summarized an exhaustive investigation of what the Special Forces do and how they do it:

Team 6 has successfully carried out thousands of dangerous raids that military leaders credit with weakening militant networks, but its activities have also spurred recurring concerns about excessive k*****g and civilian deaths.

Afghan villagers and a British commander accused SEALs of indiscriminately k*****g men in one hamlet; in 2009, team members joined C.I.A. and Afghan paramilitary forces in a raid that left a group of youths dead and inflamed tensions between Afghan and NATO officials. Even an American hostage freed in a dramatic rescue has questioned why the SEALs k**led all his captors.

Then there are the drones. The US government admits that our drones have k**led innocents and it doesn’t even pretend that who we target is always the victim we k**l. Drones do from the air, what the Special Forces do on the ground. They do not aid in capturing suspects, or bringing anyone to justice. Their only purpose is to k**l. And they are k*****g in such countries as Yemen and Pakistan – countries we don’t even pretend to be at war with.

The act of ordering someone k**led from the White House – someone not wearing a uniform and not in formal combat -- has gone on for a long time. But it has really escalated under Barack Obama. People of all political persuasions should be concerned about that, but what is really puzzling is how all this is being viewed from the left.

In an editorial applauding the assassination of bin Laden, The New York Times quoted President Obama as saying “justice has been done.” But then the same editorial went on to say:

Much will be made of the fact that the original tip came from detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. There is no evidence that good intelligence like this was the result of secret detentions or abuse and torture. Everything suggests the opposite.

Think about that. Both President Obama and the New York Times have criticized the Bush administration for “torture.” (They water boarded three prisoners.) Both think that the detentions at Guantanamo are violations of civil rights. Both think that if we capture one of the bad guys, they should have all the rights of ordinary criminals.

But if we k**l someone, that is just fine and dandy.

And public policy has conformed to the left’s peculiar view of justice. These days we are not capturing bad guys. We are not detaining them. We are not questioning them.

We are just k*****g them. And, of course, we hope we k**led the right guys.

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Nov 28, 2016 00:20:49   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Chameleon12 wrote:
Licensed to K**l
John C. Goodman

First there was Pablo Escobar, the once notorious head of the Medellin drug cartel in Colombia.

I have it on good authority from a high placed source that he was k**led by a member of the US Special Forces. The US government doesn’t admit to this, but it does acknowledge the role of US forces in locating Escobar and in destroying the Medellin cartel.

Where did they get the authority to do that? The Constitution gives the Congress the authority to declare war, but Congress has never declared war on Colombia. Come to think of it, neither has any US president.

I don’t doubt that Escobar deserved to die. He was a psychopathic k**ler himself and his drug trade destroyed many lives. But the destruction of the Medellin cartel had no effect of the price of cocaine in the United States. And even if it did, where is there any official document giving US presidents the right to go around the world k*****g people – even people who deserve to die?

Then there was Osama bin Laden. From what I can tell, the movie Zero Dark Thirty got the facts pretty much right. Seal Team Six had no intention of bringing him back alive. They brought a body bag with them and they intended to fill it.

Bin Laden was not armed when they found him. Yet he was not asked to surrender. He was not read his Miranda rights. There was no attempt whatsoever to take him prisoner. Our guys just went in and shot him. And then they shot him a couple of more times, just to make sure he was dead.

From what I can tell, this is not unusual. I don’t doubt for one moment that bin Laden deserved to die. Nor do I doubt the patriotism of the Special Forces. They risk their lives for you and me. They serve their country admirably.

But it’s time that we acknowledge who they are and what they do. They are licensed to k**l. And that’s what they do. When they shoot, they don’t wound people. They rarely take prisoners. As a general rule, they don’t leave any witnesses.

In “Seal Team Six: A Secret History of Quiet k*****g And Blurred Lines,” New York Times reporters summarized an exhaustive investigation of what the Special Forces do and how they do it:

Team 6 has successfully carried out thousands of dangerous raids that military leaders credit with weakening militant networks, but its activities have also spurred recurring concerns about excessive k*****g and civilian deaths.

Afghan villagers and a British commander accused SEALs of indiscriminately k*****g men in one hamlet; in 2009, team members joined C.I.A. and Afghan paramilitary forces in a raid that left a group of youths dead and inflamed tensions between Afghan and NATO officials. Even an American hostage freed in a dramatic rescue has questioned why the SEALs k**led all his captors.

Then there are the drones. The US government admits that our drones have k**led innocents and it doesn’t even pretend that who we target is always the victim we k**l. Drones do from the air, what the Special Forces do on the ground. They do not aid in capturing suspects, or bringing anyone to justice. Their only purpose is to k**l. And they are k*****g in such countries as Yemen and Pakistan – countries we don’t even pretend to be at war with.

The act of ordering someone k**led from the White House – someone not wearing a uniform and not in formal combat -- has gone on for a long time. But it has really escalated under Barack Obama. People of all political persuasions should be concerned about that, but what is really puzzling is how all this is being viewed from the left.

In an editorial applauding the assassination of bin Laden, The New York Times quoted President Obama as saying “justice has been done.” But then the same editorial went on to say:

Much will be made of the fact that the original tip came from detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. There is no evidence that good intelligence like this was the result of secret detentions or abuse and torture. Everything suggests the opposite.

Think about that. Both President Obama and the New York Times have criticized the Bush administration for “torture.” (They water boarded three prisoners.) Both think that the detentions at Guantanamo are violations of civil rights. Both think that if we capture one of the bad guys, they should have all the rights of ordinary criminals.

But if we k**l someone, that is just fine and dandy.

And public policy has conformed to the left’s peculiar view of justice. These days we are not capturing bad guys. We are not detaining them. We are not questioning them.

We are just k*****g them. And, of course, we hope we k**led the right guys.
Licensed to K**l br John C. Goodman br br First ... (show quote)

Bin Laden died in a cave in Tora Bora that is why those seal team six involved in the raid in Pakistan had to die.

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Nov 28, 2016 00:46:56   #
Dr.Dross
 
Chameleon12 wrote:
Licensed to K**l
John C. Goodman

First there was Pablo Escobar, the once notorious head of the Medellin drug cartel in Colombia.

I have it on good authority from a high placed source that he was k**led by a member of the US Special Forces. The US government doesn’t admit to this, but it does acknowledge the role of US forces in locating Escobar and in destroying the Medellin cartel.

Where did they get the authority to do that? The Constitution gives the Congress the authority to declare war, but Congress has never declared war on Colombia. Come to think of it, neither has any US president.

I don’t doubt that Escobar deserved to die. He was a psychopathic k**ler himself and his drug trade destroyed many lives. But the destruction of the Medellin cartel had no effect of the price of cocaine in the United States. And even if it did, where is there any official document giving US presidents the right to go around the world k*****g people – even people who deserve to die?

Then there was Osama bin Laden. From what I can tell, the movie Zero Dark Thirty got the facts pretty much right. Seal Team Six had no intention of bringing him back alive. They brought a body bag with them and they intended to fill it.

Bin Laden was not armed when they found him. Yet he was not asked to surrender. He was not read his Miranda rights. There was no attempt whatsoever to take him prisoner. Our guys just went in and shot him. And then they shot him a couple of more times, just to make sure he was dead.

From what I can tell, this is not unusual. I don’t doubt for one moment that bin Laden deserved to die. Nor do I doubt the patriotism of the Special Forces. They risk their lives for you and me. They serve their country admirably.

But it’s time that we acknowledge who they are and what they do. They are licensed to k**l. And that’s what they do. When they shoot, they don’t wound people. They rarely take prisoners. As a general rule, they don’t leave any witnesses.

In “Seal Team Six: A Secret History of Quiet k*****g And Blurred Lines,” New York Times reporters summarized an exhaustive investigation of what the Special Forces do and how they do it:

Team 6 has successfully carried out thousands of dangerous raids that military leaders credit with weakening militant networks, but its activities have also spurred recurring concerns about excessive k*****g and civilian deaths.

Afghan villagers and a British commander accused SEALs of indiscriminately k*****g men in one hamlet; in 2009, team members joined C.I.A. and Afghan paramilitary forces in a raid that left a group of youths dead and inflamed tensions between Afghan and NATO officials. Even an American hostage freed in a dramatic rescue has questioned why the SEALs k**led all his captors.

Then there are the drones. The US government admits that our drones have k**led innocents and it doesn’t even pretend that who we target is always the victim we k**l. Drones do from the air, what the Special Forces do on the ground. They do not aid in capturing suspects, or bringing anyone to justice. Their only purpose is to k**l. And they are k*****g in such countries as Yemen and Pakistan – countries we don’t even pretend to be at war with.

The act of ordering someone k**led from the White House – someone not wearing a uniform and not in formal combat -- has gone on for a long time. But it has really escalated under Barack Obama. People of all political persuasions should be concerned about that, but what is really puzzling is how all this is being viewed from the left.

In an editorial applauding the assassination of bin Laden, The New York Times quoted President Obama as saying “justice has been done.” But then the same editorial went on to say:

Much will be made of the fact that the original tip came from detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. There is no evidence that good intelligence like this was the result of secret detentions or abuse and torture. Everything suggests the opposite.

Think about that. Both President Obama and the New York Times have criticized the Bush administration for “torture.” (They water boarded three prisoners.) Both think that the detentions at Guantanamo are violations of civil rights. Both think that if we capture one of the bad guys, they should have all the rights of ordinary criminals.

But if we k**l someone, that is just fine and dandy.

And public policy has conformed to the left’s peculiar view of justice. These days we are not capturing bad guys. We are not detaining them. We are not questioning them.

We are just k*****g them. And, of course, we hope we k**led the right guys.
Licensed to K**l br John C. Goodman br br First ... (show quote)


America has done worse and will do worse in the future. This country's moral compass is survival and that is what created the problem in the Middle East. Arrogance in the form of American "exceptionalism." Being the "good guys" means being the good guys. Torture is not being the good guys. Holding people for an extended period of time without formal charges is not being the good guys. That is fear talking. And p***e. We are supposed to have certain principles. If we do not live by them, as the Constitution outlines, we become the enemy.

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Nov 28, 2016 00:53:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kenjay wrote:
Bin Laden died in a cave in Tora Bora that is why those seal team six involved in the raid in Pakistan had to die.
Now there's a load of horses**t, for ya.

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Nov 28, 2016 01:43:45   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Now there's a load of horses**t, for ya.

Prove it Blade Runner if you think you can. Where that team at right now? Why the rush to deep six the body double? Why the photo shopped picture of the situation room.

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Nov 28, 2016 02:30:54   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kenjay wrote:
Prove it Blade Runner if you think you can. Where that team at right now? Why the rush to deep six the body double? Why the photo shopped picture of the situation room.
Hey, you made those claims, I called you on them, so back them up. Instead of firing off the questions, give us the answers.

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Nov 28, 2016 04:23:33   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kenjay wrote:
Prove it Blade Runner if you think you can. Where that team at right now? Why the rush to deep six the body double? Why the photo shopped picture of the situation room.


Better yet, ask the right questions.

First of all, this is the first time I've heard that the situation room picture was photoshopped. If it was, it's easy to find out. If an amateur did it, a close look at the photo with a magnifying glass will do it. If it was a professional job, there are software programs that can reveal any alterations or graphic editing no matter how subtle.

Regarding the fate of SEAL team 6, there were 79 JSOC and CIA operatives involved in the operation to get bin Laden. The helicopter that the Taliban later shot down carried 30 men, 20 of them were SEALS, and not all of those SEALs participated in the bin Laden raid. This shoot down of a troop carrier chopper isn't the first time this has happened. At the tail end of Operation Red Wing in A-stan, a Chinook chopper carrying 8 SEALS and 8 Army SpecOp aviators was shot down attempting to extract 4 SEALS engaging a large number of Taliban. All aboard the chopper and three of the SEALS on the ground were k**led in that incident.

Regarding the disposition of bin Laden's body, the question I would ask is, who was Commander-in-Chief when SEAL team 6 raided the compound in Abbottabad, and what are his feelings, policies, and attitudes toward Islam, Islamic terrorists, and Muslims in general? The answer leads directly to why he would want to dispose of the body forthwith. You can figure that one out.

What I'm saying here is I am not one to buy the bulls**t. I've been lied to for 8 f*cking years, and I don't really give a s**t what happened to bin Laden. If Scotty beamed him to the planet Vulcan makes no difference to me, he's dead and gone, history. The same goes for this "License to K**l" issue. I sure as hell am not privy to what goes on in Black Ops, in this country or any other. S**t happens. Fog of war and all that. All I can say about this 007 stuff is that there are a helluva lot of scumbags in this world who need their tickets punched and if we need a Ninja to do the job, go for it.

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Nov 28, 2016 04:47:15   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Chameleon12 wrote:
Licensed to K**l
John C. Goodman

First there was Pablo Escobar, the once notorious head of the Medellin drug cartel in Colombia.

I have it on good authority from a high placed source that he was k**led by a member of the US Special Forces. The US government doesn’t admit to this, but it does acknowledge the role of US forces in locating Escobar and in destroying the Medellin cartel.

Where did they get the authority to do that? The Constitution gives the Congress the authority to declare war, but Congress has never declared war on Colombia. Come to think of it, neither has any US president.

I don’t doubt that Escobar deserved to die. He was a psychopathic k**ler himself and his drug trade destroyed many lives. But the destruction of the Medellin cartel had no effect of the price of cocaine in the United States. And even if it did, where is there any official document giving US presidents the right to go around the world k*****g people – even people who deserve to die?

Then there was Osama bin Laden. From what I can tell, the movie Zero Dark Thirty got the facts pretty much right. Seal Team Six had no intention of bringing him back alive. They brought a body bag with them and they intended to fill it.

Bin Laden was not armed when they found him. Yet he was not asked to surrender. He was not read his Miranda rights. There was no attempt whatsoever to take him prisoner. Our guys just went in and shot him. And then they shot him a couple of more times, just to make sure he was dead.

From what I can tell, this is not unusual. I don’t doubt for one moment that bin Laden deserved to die. Nor do I doubt the patriotism of the Special Forces. They risk their lives for you and me. They serve their country admirably.

But it’s time that we acknowledge who they are and what they do. They are licensed to k**l. And that’s what they do. When they shoot, they don’t wound people. They rarely take prisoners. As a general rule, they don’t leave any witnesses.

In “Seal Team Six: A Secret History of Quiet k*****g And Blurred Lines,” New York Times reporters summarized an exhaustive investigation of what the Special Forces do and how they do it:

Team 6 has successfully carried out thousands of dangerous raids that military leaders credit with weakening militant networks, but its activities have also spurred recurring concerns about excessive k*****g and civilian deaths.

Afghan villagers and a British commander accused SEALs of indiscriminately k*****g men in one hamlet; in 2009, team members joined C.I.A. and Afghan paramilitary forces in a raid that left a group of youths dead and inflamed tensions between Afghan and NATO officials. Even an American hostage freed in a dramatic rescue has questioned why the SEALs k**led all his captors.

Then there are the drones. The US government admits that our drones have k**led innocents and it doesn’t even pretend that who we target is always the victim we k**l. Drones do from the air, what the Special Forces do on the ground. They do not aid in capturing suspects, or bringing anyone to justice. Their only purpose is to k**l. And they are k*****g in such countries as Yemen and Pakistan – countries we don’t even pretend to be at war with.

The act of ordering someone k**led from the White House – someone not wearing a uniform and not in formal combat -- has gone on for a long time. But it has really escalated under Barack Obama. People of all political persuasions should be concerned about that, but what is really puzzling is how all this is being viewed from the left.

In an editorial applauding the assassination of bin Laden, The New York Times quoted President Obama as saying “justice has been done.” But then the same editorial went on to say:

Much will be made of the fact that the original tip came from detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. There is no evidence that good intelligence like this was the result of secret detentions or abuse and torture. Everything suggests the opposite.

Think about that. Both President Obama and the New York Times have criticized the Bush administration for “torture.” (They water boarded three prisoners.) Both think that the detentions at Guantanamo are violations of civil rights. Both think that if we capture one of the bad guys, they should have all the rights of ordinary criminals.

But if we k**l someone, that is just fine and dandy.

And public policy has conformed to the left’s peculiar view of justice. These days we are not capturing bad guys. We are not detaining them. We are not questioning them.

We are just k*****g them. And, of course, we hope we k**led the right guys.
Licensed to K**l br John C. Goodman br br First ... (show quote)
I'm not going to take you to task on this post, but I want to point out a couple things.

First, the world is a very dangerous place these days, lots of bad guys on the loose and dealing with them, as in k*****g them, is a really dirty business. Sherman said it, "War is hell." People die, even innocents. Off the top of my head there is only one brutal battle I can think of in which ALL those k**led were armed combatants, not a single civilian died--Iwo Jima (Feb-Mar, 1945).

That said, Obama is a reckless and foolish man, he hasn't one clue how to employ a nation's military forces. He probably calls his shots based on a golf score. Who knows.

One last point: Osama bin Laden was not an American citizen, he did not have the protection of our constitution or our justice system, he was an enemy living in a foreign nation, he had no Miranda rights. I simply cannot imagine what sort of hell raising the liberals would have engaged in if they had captured him and brought him here to try him. Talk about a bleeding heart media circus.

Anyway, "Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war." Shake.

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Nov 28, 2016 07:00:49   #
Paybacktimeishere
 
License To K**l

WAR, Is Not A Game Of "Patty Cake,
Patty Cake, Baker's Man", Nor Some Outlandish
Nintendo, "Show & Tell", Fun Fantasy! War Is
Deadly, Serious Business, Of Destroying, Your
Enemy. On The Battlefield, There Is NO Rhyme,
Or Reason, For Any Suicidal, "RULES OF ENGAGEMENT", It's All About K*****g, & Desperately, Trying To Survive. During The
Vietnam War, It Was A Well Known Fact, At Our
Base, That The ROC (South Korean) Marine's,
When Going Through A Village, In "Indian Territory", K**led Everything In It, Including Dog's, Chicken's, Goat's, & Water Buffalo's.
They Were Excellent Troop's, Very Well Disciplined, & Ruthless Toward Their Enemy!
Sometimes, The Viet Cong & NVA, Were Known
To "Skirt",Around ROC Troop's, & Attack The
American's. The ROC'S Would "Fight Fire, With
Fire", & The Enemy Knew It. War, Is Indeed, HELL, & When In HELL, You Fight, Like HELL!!!
Sensitivity Training, & The Inclusiveness BULL
SH*T, Will Get You DEAD!!!

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Nov 28, 2016 07:09:04   #
MarvinSussman
 
Chameleon12 wrote:
Licensed to K**l
John C. Goodman

First there was Pablo Escobar, the once notorious head of the Medellin drug cartel in Colombia.

I have it on good authority from a high placed source that he was k**led by a member of the US Special Forces. The US government doesn’t admit to this, but it does acknowledge the role of US forces in locating Escobar and in destroying the Medellin cartel.

Where did they get the authority to do that? The Constitution gives the Congress the authority to declare war, but Congress has never declared war on Colombia. Come to think of it, neither has any US president.

I don’t doubt that Escobar deserved to die. He was a psychopathic k**ler himself and his drug trade destroyed many lives. But the destruction of the Medellin cartel had no effect of the price of cocaine in the United States. And even if it did, where is there any official document giving US presidents the right to go around the world k*****g people – even people who deserve to die?

Then there was Osama bin Laden. From what I can tell, the movie Zero Dark Thirty got the facts pretty much right. Seal Team Six had no intention of bringing him back alive. They brought a body bag with them and they intended to fill it.

Bin Laden was not armed when they found him. Yet he was not asked to surrender. He was not read his Miranda rights. There was no attempt whatsoever to take him prisoner. Our guys just went in and shot him. And then they shot him a couple of more times, just to make sure he was dead.

From what I can tell, this is not unusual. I don’t doubt for one moment that bin Laden deserved to die. Nor do I doubt the patriotism of the Special Forces. They risk their lives for you and me. They serve their country admirably.

But it’s time that we acknowledge who they are and what they do. They are licensed to k**l. And that’s what they do. When they shoot, they don’t wound people. They rarely take prisoners. As a general rule, they don’t leave any witnesses.

In “Seal Team Six: A Secret History of Quiet k*****g And Blurred Lines,” New York Times reporters summarized an exhaustive investigation of what the Special Forces do and how they do it:

Team 6 has successfully carried out thousands of dangerous raids that military leaders credit with weakening militant networks, but its activities have also spurred recurring concerns about excessive k*****g and civilian deaths.

Afghan villagers and a British commander accused SEALs of indiscriminately k*****g men in one hamlet; in 2009, team members joined C.I.A. and Afghan paramilitary forces in a raid that left a group of youths dead and inflamed tensions between Afghan and NATO officials. Even an American hostage freed in a dramatic rescue has questioned why the SEALs k**led all his captors.

Then there are the drones. The US government admits that our drones have k**led innocents and it doesn’t even pretend that who we target is always the victim we k**l. Drones do from the air, what the Special Forces do on the ground. They do not aid in capturing suspects, or bringing anyone to justice. Their only purpose is to k**l. And they are k*****g in such countries as Yemen and Pakistan – countries we don’t even pretend to be at war with.

The act of ordering someone k**led from the White House – someone not wearing a uniform and not in formal combat -- has gone on for a long time. But it has really escalated under Barack Obama. People of all political persuasions should be concerned about that, but what is really puzzling is how all this is being viewed from the left.

In an editorial applauding the assassination of bin Laden, The New York Times quoted President Obama as saying “justice has been done.” But then the same editorial went on to say:

Much will be made of the fact that the original tip came from detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. There is no evidence that good intelligence like this was the result of secret detentions or abuse and torture. Everything suggests the opposite.

Think about that. Both President Obama and the New York Times have criticized the Bush administration for “torture.” (They water boarded three prisoners.) Both think that the detentions at Guantanamo are violations of civil rights. Both think that if we capture one of the bad guys, they should have all the rights of ordinary criminals.

But if we k**l someone, that is just fine and dandy.

And public policy has conformed to the left’s peculiar view of justice. These days we are not capturing bad guys. We are not detaining them. We are not questioning them.

We are just k*****g them. And, of course, we hope we k**led the right guys.
Licensed to K**l br John C. Goodman br br First ... (show quote)


In the past century, nations have been k*****g something like one hundred million people in a "legitimate" manner, more or less. In self defense, of course. We k**l to save lives. That's the story. A few individuals of bad reputation, more or less, added to the score, should not be hard to take.

It's the "just war" concept. We are justified to k**l before we are k**led. The big flaw is capital punishment, during which we k**l when not threatened with death. If you want to fight against k*****g, that's a good place to start.

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Nov 28, 2016 07:36:00   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
kenjay wrote:
Bin Laden died in a cave in Tora Bora that is why those seal team six involved in the raid in Pakistan had to die.

And it is why the body was tossed into the sea, because IF THERE WAS A BODY, IT WASN'T BinLaden. He was k**led with the first assault in Iraq.

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Nov 28, 2016 10:27:09   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Hey, you made those claims, I called you on them, so back them up. Instead of firing off the questions, give us the answers.

The answer are buried with in the questions. Or just by the party line I could care less. You have no proof that it happened any other way.

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Nov 28, 2016 10:31:31   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Better yet, ask the right questions.

First of all, this is the first time I've heard that the situation room picture was photoshopped. If it was, it's easy to find out. If an amateur did it, a close look at the photo with a magnifying glass will do it. If it was a professional job, there are software programs that can reveal any alterations or graphic editing no matter how subtle.

Regarding the fate of SEAL team 6, there were 79 JSOC and CIA operatives involved in the operation to get bin Laden. The helicopter that the Taliban later shot down carried 30 men, 20 of them were SEALS, and not all of those SEALs participated in the bin Laden raid. This shoot down of a troop carrier chopper isn't the first time this has happened. At the tail end of Operation Red Wing in A-stan, a Chinook chopper carrying 8 SEALS and 8 Army SpecOp aviators was shot down attempting to extract 4 SEALS engaging a large number of Taliban. All aboard the chopper and three of the SEALS on the ground were k**led in that incident.

Regarding the disposition of bin Laden's body, the question I would ask is, who was Commander-in-Chief when SEAL team 6 raided the compound in Abbottabad, and what are his feelings, policies, and attitudes toward Islam, Islamic terrorists, and Muslims in general? The answer leads directly to why he would want to dispose of the body forthwith. You can figure that one out.

What I'm saying here is I am not one to buy the bulls**t. I've been lied to for 8 f*cking years, and I don't really give a s**t what happened to bin Laden. If Scotty beamed him to the planet Vulcan makes no difference to me, he's dead and gone, history. The same goes for this "License to K**l" issue. I sure as hell am not privy to what goes on in Black Ops, in this country or any other. S**t happens. Fog of war and all that. All I can say about this 007 stuff is that there are a helluva lot of scumbags in this world who need their tickets punched and if we need a Ninja to do the job, go for it.
Better yet, ask the right questions. br br First... (show quote)

Ok I agree with that. I just don't believe anything thing Obama says except the part about fundamental t***sformation.

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Nov 28, 2016 10:36:18   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Tasine wrote:
And it is why the body was tossed into the sea, because IF THERE WAS A BODY, IT WASN'T BinLaden. He was k**led with the first assault in Iraq.

Actually the thinking is that he died of kidney failure. I can not prove definitely that that is the case. Just that things don't add up with Obama's version.

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Nov 28, 2016 13:06:16   #
payne1000
 
kenjay wrote:
Bin Laden died in a cave in Tora Bora that is why those seal team six involved in the raid in Pakistan had to die.


Fox News and other sources reported the death of Bin Laden in 2001.
www.foxnews.com/story/2001/12/26/report-bin-laden-already-dead.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212851/Has-Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-seven-years--U-S-Britain-covering-continue-war-terror.html
www.globalresearch.ca/osama-died-in-2001-msnbc-hit-piece...for-dr.../24753

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